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    As much as I believe all three of you are Inquisition, and I want you all to trust each other as much as possible, I don't think he'd skip GM'ing just because he's skaa.
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    Thanks for responding Clanky! To be perfectly honest with you Clanky I didn't entirely(not at all sorry ) read your post against Zephrer I just read the vote tally and noticed you and Wyrm voted for him (At the time you were my top two town) and I could definitely see how you could see me as rehashing your suspicions considering Zephrer hadn't said much since then (hell even now he's only posted a few times after d3) and so we didn't have much to go on. As you might have noticed with me defending Creccio, I am very defensive of people who I believe to be town. ESPECIALLY when I believe that the person attempting to attack my townsmember is a Skaa. Note: I'm not dead set on voting for Kipper. I am also willing to vote on my other suspicions (Alfa and Zephrer) until they give me a reason to think they are Inquisition. EDIT: The (not at all sorry ) Doesn't mean I'm NOT SORRY. It means: I didn't read it at all sorry. Lol I reread over it and was like oops. ALSO sorry for use of acronym profanity it's a part of my vernacular as a college student and avid gamer. I'm glad that the website caught me though haha. Edited it out.
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    @Stink and everyone else reading the argument between me and Kipper I understand that him being overly defensive does not condemn him as 100% skaa. And that's not the point I'm trying to get across. Nothing I do or say can condemn him as 100% skaa. I'm not a true seeker role that checked him night one. It's up to you guys to make do with what I gave away to you guys in my posts and what his defense gave away to you guys in his posts. Was he being overly defensive? Did he brush off every point made against him as a joke? Once he realized my true intentions did he change his tone a little too much? Did Deathclutch have any good points? Did Kipper have any good points? Does any of this even make him Skaa or is he just defending himself like an Inquisition would? Was his defense good and actually seems more like an Inquisitor now? Has Deathclutch just been lying to us and he has ulterior motives? Does Deathclutch seem more Skaa after all of this? It's up to you! I've done all I can. My goal was to get you guys to be able to get a good read based off of BOTH of our posts on who is Inquisition and who is not! No one of my points can make him a proven skaa. The double negatives, the overly-defensive, the skaa kills, the terrible reason given for voting for joe, the step-by-step process he explained, him asking mail to be killed d1. None of it can make him proven skaa. I know I sound confident in my reads (It's because I am ) and I know I made it sound like I'm finding one thing per post and using that to make him 100% skaa every time, but that's not what I'm trying to get at. I just want some D5 Discussion. edit: Format
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    Clanky could I get your opinion on me? Any read is welcome. edit: he got offline I cry everytime
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    I didn't want to say it outright to anger kipper more but being overly defensive is indicative of skaa haha. Like I said though it's not up to me. I've cast my vote. It's up to whatever you guys make of my evidence and what you guys make of his defense. I've said my piece. I've gotten the intended response. Use your wits to the best of your ability and decipher who is skaa and who is inquisition.
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    I choose 9 !!! I'm glad we could get to this point. As I said before I was hoping the last standing experienced skaa wouldn't go down without a fight! In a world where you are Inquisition you write my suspicions off as just that, suspicions and move on because you understand there is nothing that will change my mind. Unfortunately in this world you are skaa. You feel threatened. You should. I called you out. With a degree of aggression I apologized for. And in this world you defend yourself to the best of your ability. I applaud your defense it was grandiose. However, I think you overdid it a little but don't take it to heart every skaa would do that. But it's up to everyone else now to make up what they think of your defense. Not me. You're not convincing me. Like you said I'm tunneling. "It's when you don't even consider a person's arguments." Edit: (ninjaed by polking) "you seem to think you will be killed, and Kipper is the devil incarnate." This is true. You seem irked Kipper. I apologize if I cause you stress but it was necessary to bring out the true skaa in you and also my goal. Also "“And now you will kill me tonight" greatly increase your chances of dying?" Yes.
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    I play with my floor(I live on campus) in college every week. We use cards and just go to sleep by putting our heads down. I also play in the Custom Games section of Starcraft 2 fairly often as well as TTT in Garry's Mod. (FPS version of Mafia) Along with all that I play ranked in Town of Salem when I have free time. My username is Dscythe feel free to add me I love playing with other people!
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    First off I'd like to apologize for being aggressive. But you are skaa so please understand. You're killing my teammates one by one and have the intention of finishing me off tonight as well! I agree with you I'm not sure anything will convince me you are not skaa. Apologies. This whole post just makes me believe you are Skaa more. You write everything off as a joke and then say this. As a frequent Mafia player this statement are highly indicative of skaa. Unfortunately for you, you did not know about it. Fortunately for you not many other people do either and may not believe me which is fine. I would hope people wouldn't take everything I say without at least a small hint of doubt. Let me explain. Skaa(Traitor's, Mafia, Werewolves, etc.) will often repeat things they have already said two sentences in a row so that they are certain they got their point across(they don't want to die because of miscommunication on their part they'd rather die a noble death). Example: I'm not skaa. I assure you. TL;DR Double Affirmatives are indicative of Skaa. I learned this from a psychology major(and I didn't just take his word for it I tested it several times myself) I am not that good guys I didn't figure this out myself xD. But yeah sorry. There's no changing my mind so you might as well kill me tonight if you aren't lynched today.
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    If you haven't noticed from the current MR9 game I'm not by any means new to the mechanics of this Town of Salem(Werewolf, Mafia, Sanderson Elimination, Trouble in Terrorist Town) type of game. I actually play "fairly often" in all of these modes. Feel free to add me I like playing with people I know. Town of Salem Username: Dscythe
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    I was hoping the last standing experienced skaa wouldn't take my accusation lying down. Thank you for taking the time to respond. I saw you get offline and got scared for a bit. 1) As I was looking through joe's day1 10 page shenanigans and I wrote down any posts that stuck out as "suspicious" or "something I would say as skaa" and put it next to your name. Exactly what that was? I mean I can go and look back but you'll have to give me a minute. 2) Yes. All of Clankies posts day 1 were extremely town to me. Every post I read just solidified his position as a town member. I stand by my position to put him in my town circle along with Wyrm and Winter. They are in no way 100% not skaa, they're just more likely to be town than you. Also Kipper, Dying night one might be the reason you were salty. Don't take this as me attacking you I know nothing about you and don't intend for you to take offense. I'm just saying dying night one is a valid reason to be angry at a skaa team. CASE AND POINT THANK YOU: http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/46623-mid-range-game-9-the-steel-ministry/?p=345447 oh look Mail died D1. How convenient. http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/46623-mid-range-game-9-the-steel-ministry/?p=345891I'm just finding golden gems in all of your D1 posts today aren't I kipper? Your plan in Step 1. seems to have come true. You killed Mial, lynched Joe, killed Alvron yesterday and kasimir was switched with Ripple so there's no need to kill her. Why you killed Sart over Wyrm is beyond me(good bronze check on lurcher?). Unfortunately your teammates haven't given me such blatant clues to being a skaa like you have. If you could tell me who they are that'd help me a lot. @Kipper I'd like to hear your opinion on your fellow skaa members Alfa and Zephrer if you don't mind. Also Honey Badger. He seems bad. _________________________________________________________________________________________________ @Clanky I understand what you're saying Clanky. 3 pewter's wouldn't be OUT OF THIS WORLD anyways. As I have nothing more than "he's not playing like a good Pewter should" and "2 good pewters are dead" I'll change my vote to skaa leader Kipper Oh another reason I suspect Alfa that I didn't write down was that he voted for Phattemer without any reasoning Day1 another person I believe to be very town. Also Alfa has only had one post to my knowledge that had any sort of Inquisition-like substance. This can be seen here http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/46623-mid-range-game-9-the-steel-ministry/?p=345797
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    Again. I UNDERSTAND that the roles are uncertain. I also believe Gamma would make a balanced game. Not that I know Gamma personally that's just what I heard. Your position on the list was moved from Skaa to (almost skaa). Not proven innocent. Anything not in light green is not 100% certain! I said that at the end of the list in my will the day before. I can only make assumptions just like all of you. And ruling things out just because "the eliminator could all be copper" is getting us nowhere. If we base everything on the extremes we can't make any assumptions as to who the skaa are. We have no true seeker roles and therefore every lynch we make will HAVE to be an assumption. And if you play the "what if" game all day long you're not making any assumptions you're only making excuses as to why those assumptions MIGHT not work. Nothing in this game is certain. The "what if's?" are endless. So I make do with what is given to me little by little. Edit: typo
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    To be honest, I prefer the name Hellscythe. Deathscythe isn't a name I associate with at all. Deathclutch is but I prefer Hellscythe. Also if you're asking my evidence against Alfa you didn't read my will. That's ok I didn't die anyway so I don't blame you. I'll repost it here for you. Alfa - Ashbringer Fadraux ??? - X Claims Peweterarm but doesn’t provoke? (bad) Why be pewter and not try to provoke an attack by the baddies? Seems like an easy skaa play to claim pewter to me. Susp. 2 inquis-aligned pewter dead. Chances of 3. Minimal. Also I have something new to bring to the table. Kipper being Skaa Edit: @Wyrm As you might guess I don't like your vote on Winter because you're both in my town list. Also to clear up any misconceptions I didn't base your innocence solely off your vote on Lopen. It just pushed you over the edge from "Almost Pretty Good" to Good.
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    There's 2 lurchers dead stink. I'm not so sure the coinshot would be protected if they came out (They'd probably die). However they could come out and just get their last shot off while being copperclouded. It's up to them.
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    So Alfa what are the chances that there's 2 pewterarm's dead on the Inquisition and you're the pewterarm for the skaa? I'd say highly likely. Sorry for getting Orlok lynched guys my bad. He didn't give me reason to think he was good. Edit: Adding in Day 5 reads now because my Day 4 reads are outdated and don't need to be referenced. Also I didn't want to make another post just for my reads. Day5 Reads
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    If I die tonight here is my will. Good luck Inquisition. Sorry I couldn't win my first game for you all. Day 3 Reads Day 3 continued Day 4 Reads and the General Balance of the Game Skaa Kill evidence Skaa Kills and Finishing Touches
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    Thought Process: Lopen: my vote on you wasn't so much because I think you're suspicious Oh so you're not too suspicious of Wyrm. Lopen: That's not to say I'm not suspicious of you Ok so you are suspicious of wyrm? Lopen: (Agreeing with Wyrm this much makes me nervous) Ok so you're definitely suspicious of Wyrm still. Lopen: I'll remove my vote from Wyrm(removed in original post as well) since I'm not really that suspicious of him. Ok so..... This is starting to hurt my brain..... I'm still watching you though! (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
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    Either they got a good check on Sart and knew he was the Lurcher or they killed him solely based off the fact that Sart was the last living member of the "corporation" from Quick Fix 10. (In which they won the game and skaa may be salty) Mailliw-Medkit-9 atium --------------------------------------------Killed by skaa Alvom - Larger Pan, Medkit, 0 Atium (as of C11)------------Killed by skaa Feligon - Larger pan, 5 Atium, medkit--------------------------Not in game Sart (aka a smart guy) - 1 atium :\-------------------------------Killed by skaa
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    Zephrer what are your thoughts on Orlok?
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    First off you have inconsistencies in your stories. In one you are DOUBTING that a seeker watched you. " but I doubt this happened." In the next post you KNOW that a seeker didn't watch you."which conveniently didn't happen. " Then second off this narrows down your role to only a few possibilities considering you would HAVE TO KNOW that a seeker checked you in order for your posts to have any sort of truth to them. Also you have to able obtain evidence in some way "to clear or condemn" me. Now if you don't mind I'd like you to claim your role because 1) Your posts are inconsistent which is very skaa to me. 2) Your role is one of two things that you can hardly help the inquisition with without anyone claiming roles. 3) The skaa are most likely looking for lurchers and coin shots anyway so if you end up claiming Gold or Tin you won't be targeted anyways. Please stop trying to lynch Creccio. Lynching 4 Inquisition in a row is getting us nowhere. Pewter: Makes you stronger and increases your endurance. Burning it at night protects you from one attack. Does not save from lynches. Tin: Enhances your senses, and with heightened hearing and being able to see through the mists at night, nobody is able to sneak up on you. You are told who targeted you during the Night, if anybody did. (if multiple people target you, you will be told of one of them at random) Steel: With strength and precision, you are able to kill even an Inquisitor with your coinshot powers. Iron: You do what a Lurcher does best, and you protect your target from one attack at Night. You can not protect yourself. Bronze: Detect if your target used a metal action, what they were burning, and if they targeted somebody,. But not the identity of who they were targeting. No alignment revealed. Copper: Coppercloud yourself and one target, making you immune to emotional allomancy and bronze. Brass: Sooth a target, role-blocking their metal-action. Does not prevent the Skaa kill. Zinc. Riot a player, re-directing their metal action to a target of your choosing.Does not affect the skaa kill. Gold: The introspective nature of Gold allows you to see what actions you were targeted with the turn you burn it. You will be told up to two actions you were targeted with, if any, but not from whom the actions came from. Atium: The ultimate metal, letting you see a few moments into the future, giving you the ultimate advantage in battle. You are nigh invincible when burning Atium, and a deadly sight for any enemies nearby. You become immune to all actions used against you and kill everybody who targeted you with an action.
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    I said it once and I'll say it again Can anyone tell me what we learn from Joe's death? "I think we gain sufficient information from his death that I'm going to vote on him without more concrete suspicions. Sorry, Joe" - Orlok "Creccio. Your posts have been belligerent, and accusatory without actually carrying a weight of evidence" - Orlok 1) There is no clear-cut "evidence" in this game especially when there are such few claims and no pm's. (by the way without claims almost all of our investigative roles are completely useless) 2) Belligerence is based on perception and the eye of the beholder. 3) Accusatory is a part of the game. If nobody is accused nobody has to be defensive and the skaa are able to slide by without being threatened. By the way to the people who may think I'm changing my vote too much --- a vote for Orlok is a vote for Zephrer because in a world where one is skaa the other is skaa because yesterday Orlok protects Zephrer from being lynched by nailing Joe's coffin. So really I'm not changing my vote at all. Also Orlok I'd like to hear your reads on everyone. Especially Zephrer.
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    Zephrer your "I'm not skaa" defense is well..... very skaa. Also thank you for claiming polk I retracted my vote on you.
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    @Ripple Activity has nothing to do with deduction based on previous days. Anyone can read any post from any time at any time. In other news are there any investigative roles that want to come forward and shed some light on the game? Also can anyone tell me what we learn from Joe's death? "I think we gain sufficient information from his death that I'm going to vote on him without more concrete suspicions. Sorry, Joe" - Orlok
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    Are you mad that the coin shot took one of your teammates polking?
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    I'd like to sign up. My character's name is Hellscythe.
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    Hi guys. Apologies for being inactive the first few days I was busy writing essays all week. Now to get down to the game. I'm voting for Zephrer for a few reasons. 1) My biggest reads (based off the past few days of posts) on who I believe to be Inquisition would be namely the people who are currently voting for Zephrer "****Zephrer (2): Clanky, Wyrmhero****" 2) Zephrer's posts while it does seem like he's attempting to help and this is only his second first-ish game, his posts generally do nothing to help the Inquisition except state general things that we need to do EX: "So how do we propose to deal with the Skaa?" - Zephrer 3) While Joe is extremely suspicious for 1) Not giving us the name of who visited him and 2) Jo attempting to possibly sway votes by voting for himself to me is an extreme defensive maneuver, I believe Zephrer is more likely to be skaa based on my points earlier that I believe outweigh the points against Joe.
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