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If people did constantly post upvote, I assume others would react to that.
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Or we get rid of the system. Then you'll get no abuse from it.
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On the Worm/Wildbow subreddit (it's actual name is 'parahumans') most people think it'll be Twig, then the editing of Worm followed by Worm 2.
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I think most people are also saying that generally a theory takes much more time to write out and support than a quick joke, so the upvotes should reflect that.
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I should probably write more about my thoughts on rep, so here we go. As you can see from my profile, I'm comparatively new to the forum. Haven't got much rep, and I haven't got many posts. Mostly stick to the SE subforum, and read the general discussion and Reckoners RP a fair bit, but haven't posted there much. As a newbie to the forum, it was pretty clear that there was an easy way to get rep, depending on what subforum you were in. General would be a quick meme/gif in response to something (with a clear example being the Unoriginal thread) while the Reckoners RP was about the same but would also include MLP related stuff. Other subforums required more effort for the amount of rep one could get in those two subforums, such as Sanderson Elimination (which you should all play btw) which was mostly RP by players and GMs. Here is a rant I wrote down in a google doc roughly 2 months ago (I have not edited it, but I kinda wish I do because I was quite annoyed and I apologize to anyone who feels insulted by this) "Alright, so basically I don’t like Rep ‘“cause it encourages the same thing, over and over with like constant references to this and that, and there are people that will do things like that to get high rep, when really the rep shouldn’t matter. It’s like, when you post a funny joke you may get some points, but you didn’t post the joke for points so it shouldn’t matter if you get any, and you don’t need points for that, as the point of a joke is to make others laugh, so they can always just reply ‘Ha! Great joke’ especially as it is a forum and most of this stuff is seen in General discussion. In fact, looking at General discussion right now, there seems to be an unoriginal thread! Wonder what could be in here? Ah okay, so it’s just mindless references, nothing too funny or original… BUT WAIT! Everyone is being upvoted? O.o More upvotes for linking an image and meming it up instead of just posting it? I guess everyone seems to love this kind of thing here, now let's look at Cosmere Theories or Brandon Discussion. Alright, picked two posts at random (not really for one, you can guess) http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/27806-kobold-king-is-actually-brandon/ http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/50502-immortality-in-the-cosmere-choose-your-poison-or-whatever-the-opposite-of-that-is-general-cosmere-spoilers/ Okay, so one of this is a direct reference to the person with the current highest rep, alright. And what’s this, more references? The one post not upvoted on the front page of that is the only one that is still on topic, but just doesn’t talk about KK, while a ninja face gets 3? See what I mean about this whole clique/same thing now? Okay, I’m gonna look at this immortality one now, looks more interesting than that other one. Huh, it’s got facts, a funny picture and jokes! This should surely be a post with a good amount of upvotes, but it only has 5. Responses that continue the joke (similar to the KK one) and also add more to the joke (great!) have 1 upvote. Is my point demonstrated well now? The facts for the immortality thread may have changed after I upvoted them all." So I think this is ample enough proof that I've been against rep for a while. If anyone has any questions, just ask. I won't take anything personal so even hit me up with a PM and spout rhetoric at me
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Sorry if that's the impression I'm giving.
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Speaking of, I'd be interested to know what the current demographics being overly represented are, and what demographics aren't being represented. We might be able to reach those demographics for the campaign of reputation.
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It's not labeling you a minority, it's just very easy to say that 'we' think that this should happen and 'we' don't like this, while actually being your own point of view. Yes, I saw the random thread where people posted memes and lamented the lack of upvoting. All 8 or so pages of it? Considering the lack of others complaining about the rep system, it means that not everyone on the forum was mad about the rep, so I asked about who you were 'representing'. I don't really get what you mean about the thread's demographics being represented, do we need to invite people from the introductory forum here for their opinion so that they can represent the 'newbies' who are being unfair represented?
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That is true. Can I count them for my opinion too?
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Many people unhappy? Where are these many people?
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One question, who is 'us'?
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I would be fine with getting rid of the reputation system.
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Then you can add to that smile! That joke was great, good sire! I appreciated this meme, and think you should do more That is really nice to hear! I wish you luck! Much like the responses to Voidus' statement (congrats) and how he got upvotes and feedback!
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I can verify that in no way was I attacked by a moderator/admin.
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If only there was a smile emoticon to use in those situations....
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Quick Fix Game 12: The Time of Reckoning
STINK replied to phattemer's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I would like to spectate this game, please!- 366 replies
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- all the kill roles started
- so many pms lost
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- fun tags
- or doc
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- lynch fail
- this means you queensteph
- votes
- teamwork
- whats gonna work
- request them please
- vote shenanigans
- except bridge boy
- unanimous
- anyway game is about over
- so we killed him
- sorrry bb
- along with a surprise
- the final final write-up will
- be tomorrow
- survivors
- mailliw does it again
- old music
- random cycle names
- or none
- cant tell you anything
- true power
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- this is getting difficult
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- write-up might be edited in
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You can't really compare subreddits to a forum though, as reddit sorts its content through how many total upvotes it has gotten over a period of time on the 'hot' setting, which is what most people use. This means that eventually content goes away and isn't really contributed to after a period of time, and even later on the thread itself would be archived. 17S sorts out threads through what was recently posted/replied to in the area you are looking at. Nothing to do with how many upvotes it has got. So content can stay on the first page for a long time, compared to reddit. We (as the users) can keep content on the first page for a long time and keep contributing, which means we have a completely different atmosphere than reddit. EDIT: Ninja'd by Kobald, one quick thing, upvoting was your hobby?
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Chaos posted about downvotes and such (which I agree with) but this is mostly a response to KK. http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/52208-upvotes-and-downvotes/page-2#entry384583 ^ Kobold's post 1. I don't see how it would be 'nigh impossible' for a dual rep system to be followed and respected, as even if locking one type of rep to one subforum isn't possible (though if it is then that is a solution) then people can still downvote what they feel might have been upvoted for a reason that isn't good enough. 2. If the dual rep system is hard to make respected and followed, then how hard is it for one rep system for many different people? 3. If I was to post about how I like Ice cream the most and why, then talk about why Chocolate is my second favourite food, I'm pretty sure people would also respond about the chocolate and not just the Ice cream. (It's a metaphor) 4. And that's what I mean, you responded to the second idea with a brief sentence while the other idea was very much a 'no'. Thanks for responding to all of my points though
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Okay then, you at least read the first paragraph. I'm still left wondering why you only responded to that sentence and not the sentence about how later on she overrides that thought with the one about having 2 different rep counts...
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So if you read Meg's post, she also suggests having 2 types of rep for BS stuff and off-topic stuff, which to me sounds like a nice compromise. She never actually says that she wants to see the whole reputation system deleted. EDIT: Posted this just before Meg posted, it seems.
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People are allowed to think what they want about Rep. You can't just say 'you're wrong', or can I say that to you? This thread should probably be moved to 17th Shard Discussion. Oh, and you seem to have missed some of what Meg said, Kobold.
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Random Stuff VI The Return of the Admins
STINK replied to Zathoth's topic in Forum Games & Random Stuff
So gotta write a Gothic piece of writing. Wrote some and this is the plot so far, but I don't know what to do next. Suggestions? Guy goes into Church. His grandfather lives in Church. Village around Church is devoid of life. What next? -
Anniversary Game 2: Return of the Koloss
STINK replied to Metacognition's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Hmmmm. Hellscythe STINK. -
Anniversary Game 2: Return of the Koloss
STINK replied to Metacognition's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Well according to the claims, there are only 2 Smokers left. -
Anniversary Game 2: Return of the Koloss
STINK replied to Metacognition's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Well it doesn't make much sense to me, is all. Let me go through it as if I was a Seeker. 1. Seek someone. 2. 'Now I trust you! Let's find more, want to tell me anything?' 3. Seek someone. 4. 'I'll tell you stuff now, such as my suspicions and who I want to seek next.' (Ada told me in a PM I was going into his trust group, btw) 5. Seek someone 6. Now if it's an eliminator, you might tell someone else to go 'THIS PERSON IS EVIL!' and try to get them. 7. If it's someone good, you bring them into the group. You're big enough now for someone to post in thread, and maybe actually talk to the other trust group. But wait, do you see this happening? I don't.
