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I interpreted the sliding of the fist across the face as Kaladin controlling his punch to ensure it didn't do maximum damage. Realistically a strong and decently sized person like Kaladin making full blooded connection with a naked fist has the potential to kill, especially to an unsuspecting person .

Although immensely satisfying, i feel that Kaladin's punch was ultimately immature and shows how much his character has to grow to be the epitome of an honorable person that I imagine he will be by the end of his development cycle. I imagine that Kaladin's desire for justice to be served was overwhelming in the moment and his emotions dictated his actions but in the end of the day one of the deadliest warriors on Roshar physically dominated a crippled aging man without direct provocation.

I guess without actually knowing how the law works, its hards to speculate on what if any punishment will be administered. I 100% agree that there are facts surrounding Adolin's action's that can be used in his defence. However, my response was more in respects to the possibility of Adolin being Dalinar's son having an impact on the leniency of his sentence.

I would think if Dalinar was lenient towards Adolin simply because he's his son, a lot of people would see that as corruption. IRL, for instance, if a politician's son committed a murder and got away with a slap on the wrists due to the position of their parent, people would be outraged. I actually think a lot of people would think Adolin's actions as outrageous, irrespective of Sadeas being a huge scum bag. Adolin basically decided to rage kill Sadeas, there were no special circumstances to argue such as self-defence. A civilised course of action would have been to gather evidence against Sadeas and then try him - then a death penalty can be administered.

I think that while both Dalinar and Kaladin will be able to empathise with Adolin's actions but they will both recognise the murder as a crime. Following this, I think Dalinar will feel that the honourable course of action is to administer some sort of justice in response to the crime. I feel that both Dalinar and Kaladin are in a camp of ethics where certain actions are wrong no matter the person's good intentions or the outcome. I think Dalinar has held this ethical position from the beginning (he follows a strict honour code), while Kaladin developed into this ethical position by the end of WoR. On the other hand I can see Shallan being able justifying Adolin's actions. She probably sits more in an ethical camp where an action can be justified based upon a person's good intentions for an overall beneficial outcome. Certainly she has no issue deploying good intentioned deception/subterfuge.

I feel like distinction in the wording used to reference the actions of the Heralds versus that of the Radiants could indicate that the speaker is a Spren. In referencing the actions of the Heralds versus that of the Radiants, the speaker describes the Heralds' actions as abandonment versus the more strongly worded "turned against". Perhaps I could be looking too deeply into the language used, but it seems to reflect the actions of the Heralds and the Radiants accurately from a Spren's standpoint given we what we knew i.e. the actions of the Radiants hurt the Spren and I imagine the actions of the Heralds was simply abandonment as stated.

I'm also leaning towards it being a powerful spren given it seem to be an omnipresent entity able to monitor our four protagonists and is accurately familiar with the history of Roshar. Regarding the value of prophecies, I honestly can't remember the last fantasy book I've read that didn't feature a prophecy of some sort as part of their plot, and for good reason in my opinion. Usually a prophecy poses more questions than answers leading the reader to ponder possibilities. Much like the prophecy that is the topic of this thread.

Hello, I've been lurking these forums for the last couple of weeks and I can't contain myself any longer, I have to jump into the fray for some juicy cosmere discussion! Anyway, a bit about myself. I've read the two available books in the Stormlight Archive and the first mistborn trilogy. I'm a particularly big fan of the Stormlight Archive and rank the two available books in my top 10 favourites of all time. With that said, its time for me to head into the Stormlight Archive section of these forums see ya'll there .