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I should probably also mention that I do play the trombone, I'm no good at writing music but I can definitely play it, especially since it sounds like you want trombone in the music.

4 hours ago, Darkness Ascendant said:

maybe some small implications  as far as putting WoR scenes into WoK trailers @Ari and @Djarskublar

@Maple Duke, still want to sign up?

I need to stop being lazy and finish the trailers lol, will try tomoz

Yes I would.

Couldn't find whatever link was in OP to sign up on.

Granted. I think you know what the bane is already. Have fun fighting off gremlins! 

I want to make mayonnaise an instrument! 

I'm in total agreement with everyone here, SA has totally ruined epic fantasy for me because no one else can write a story as well as Brandon Sanderson. 

That said, I would recommend that, if you can't seem to figure out what's going on, read some of Sanderson's other books to get a feel for his writing style. Chulls, chasmfiends, spren, and all that other stuff you will figure out. I sent the longest time thinking chulls looked like oxen with shells. The thing with his world building style is he literally lets the world build.

In my opinion he gives you just enough information to form a seed of his worlds and as you read more that seed will grow and it will be trimmed and eventually it will be as real as the chair you curl up in as you read his books. You just have to give it time and keep reading.

I love the idea! is Studio 17 actually making a movie of some sort based on the stormlight archive? I've always thought that the Stormlight archive would work better as a TV show with each season being one book. Either way I would love to be involved with something like this, would that even be possible?

What if it is one of the Unmade? We don't know that much about them so I can't offer much in the way of proof, but that is also a point in their benefit, they might fit the role of the speaker perfectly and we don't know it. I feel like the Unmade have a closer connection to the spiritual realm and I personally would love to get a closer look at the spiritual realm. I saw a theory at one point that suggested that as main characters were killed/died that we might follow their journey through the afterlife (I'd put a link but I'm to lazy to find it again) The third book might be a good place to kill off a character that we originally thought was going to have a big part in the story (Dalinar?) and then book four opens with them in the Tranquile Halls.

 probably not, it's just a thought.

Let me know if you think it could be the Unmade even if you might not agree with the spiritual realm stuff.

lopen.

 

lopen will die.

 

lopen will die, and we will all cry.

 

lopen will die and we will all cry and he's just that extremely lovable character that DIES.

 

lopen will die and we will all cry and he's just that extremely lovable character that DIES because that is just how much we like lopen

 

we like him so much that there will probably be an entire thread devoted to his funeral...

Why!!!   Why did you have to go giving Brandon ideas!!!

also

Someone always ends up dead.

bad breath is like bubonic plague

Same here.

btw does anyone actually know why they don't keep the upvote and downvote arrows so close to each other?

Syl: Not that he accidentally down voted or anything... he was just wondering

I decided to look back at my first post... *face-palm!*

I'm not even quite sure what all that is supposed to mean...

I think I'll try again, *ahem* Hello 17th Shard! I'm Maple Duke, I live in Northern Michigan where there is nothing to do but read or shiver in the cold. naturally I prefer reading. I'm currently in high school so I manage to get away with it even if I'm supposed to be doing other things...

I'm hoping to go to U of M to become a aerospace engineer, so hopefully I'll be able to find some extra time to read when Stormlight 3 finally comes out.

Hopefully that is a bit of an improvement over my first impression and hopefully no one will judge me for that too much...

They look alive but are really no more than puppets

Shardblades are like compliments

Well I for one actually want to see how this might end. let's keep it going.

"I...I Don't know." he shook his head, and seemed rather puzzled "where am I? the last thing I remember was..."

I have a question...

When is part 3 coming, and how is Heir of the void still at 211? (as I post this)

Sooooo Gingers have no Spren??

that would mean when the listeners become voidbringers they would loose their hair. I think perhaps the spren go where the soul is supposed to go

...not the same on the surface as they are in the depths

Sanderson books are like brownies...

I don't know, Honorblades are weird. Why don't they leak the Light they consume like Nightblood? Are we perhaps wrong about them consuming it?

The explanation in the book seems rather final to me.

“This sword gave the assassin power to use Lashings, but it also fed upon his Stormlight. A person who uses this will need far, far more Light than you will. Dangerous levels of it.”

 

 

We are going to have to assume that, yes the honor blades are consuming the stormlight. Perhaps Nightblood just isn't as efficient as the honorblades.

All this morality makes for great arguments but please take it to a knew post.

As for Dustbringers, my personal favorite in case you didn't know, I think we are focussing on each of the divine attributes too individually. In each of the Radiants we've seen so far you can see both of the attributes in them. Also the list in the Ars Arcanum is the "traditional Vorin symbolism" and could have been altered ever so slightly in the FIVE THOUSAND years since the last desolation and the fall of the Knights Radiant. that being said, I don't think we can use that as an absolute. What if all the Dustbringers had to become brave, and probably seemed brave, so that is what was associated with them. (I'm basing this mostly on Shallan and how she appears honest to other people, not so much in reality, and she is a confirmed Lightweaver who seek the truth or something like that)

That said (wow that sounded better in my head but you get the idea) I think at least one of the divine attributes has to do with the oaths or other requirements.

I think it's too soon to try to pinpoint what oath(s) Renarin has spoken or how proficient he is at surgebinding. Personally I think there's every chance that he may have been a surgebinder as long as Jasnah or longer. Kaladin is suspicious of his explanation of his epilepsy which makes me suspicious. after all Kaladin knows his stuff. And for all we know this could be something related to Cultivation or the Old Magic. The Honor does say that Cultivation is better at seeing the future. Their are too many variables still unsolved to come to any sort of conclusion.

Granted, but you won't understand the language it is being taught in.

I wish my WIFI was better.

This is slightly off topic but I always imagined dalinar looking like Christopher Lee. Not perfectly but with that in mind it could be possible to do a live adaptation you just have to replace the alethi or horneater's or whatever race with a real one from earth and add a little makeup and a wig if needed to make it different enough.

Despite that I agree that "Avatar: last airbender" style animation with "Avatar" movie quality world would be flippin awesome. No questions asked that would be the way to go.

I also like the Idea of the story being totally different from the books (the last desolation maybe?)

The First and only Dustbringer!!! (Releaser)

45% Dustbringer

44% Truthwatcher

34% skybreaker

31% willshaper

21% lightweaver

21% elsecaller

0% for the rest

The greatest part is I totally called it. I think dustbringers will be one of the coolest orders (imagine ghosts with hand grenades  ) 

And don't you dare make me a squire! Dustbringers don't have squires (what would they do anyway? point out things to blow up?)

Now this is a theory that is mostly based on speculation but I wanted to see what other people think of it. Warning mindless rambling may happen at times, just stay with me.

Now lets get to it.

The Oathpact. We don't know much about it but I will quickly summarize what we do know.

1. It is an oath by the Heralds that returns them to Roshar with each desolation
2. Whenever the heralds are not on Roshar they are tortured
3. It has been in effect for a long time- "Centuries, perhaps millennia"
4. The Oathpact was broken
5. The enemy who is most likely Odium was bound by it
6. Honor is the one who most likely initiated it

While that isn't much to go on I'm going to talk about not only how it effects the heralds, but also how that may have effected the Rosharian ecosystem, specifically the starting the highstorms.

Now I'll start with a simple explanation of how the Heralds are important in the oathpact: I believe that they may have become bound to Odium. Now this would explain why they are tortured, after all what else would an entity literally named Hatred do to it's enemy's? Now the reason I was lead to this conclusion was in part because of the fact that shards tend to behave according to the principle of intent. (http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/369-theory-the-principle-of-intent/)

Now Torture is not Honorable, and I would love to hear anyone argue otherwise. But Odium is more than capable of torturing people. In fact he probably does it for fun. I mean if you hate someone then you want to torture them so it fits his personality perfectly.

Now I hope I haven't lost you because this is where it gets interesting. What if Honor, Cultivation, and Odium were all originally on Roshar? Now Odium hates everything, or at least he probably does. So Honor and Cultivation, in order to create a society that wasn't constantly in danger of being destroyed, they had to get rid of Odium. So give odium something to focus all his hate on, preferably something he knows that you like (the heralds) and give him his own planet and then hope he leaves yours alone. And if he ever comes back make him bring back the Heralds. It's like giving the bully at school your toy and then just pulling out a different one after he leaves. Now Odium Isn't stupid so I'm sure he threw in some of his own conditions, namely getting to leave a small part of himself on Roshar mainly in the form of voidspren. Now that probably seemed like a good deal, after all what could things with no, or at least very little, physical form do? 

Well a lot as it turns out. Odium could insert the voidspren into the listeners and take control of them, like how Ruin uses hemalurgy. But every time he moved enough of his sentience to Roshar to control the listeners, then the Heralds would return to. This would explain why they always show up right before a desolation, and also why leaving just one of them could end the desolations, Odium still has one of them to Hate. And perhaps having only one of them return stuck Odium in a sort of limbo. He couldn't fully leave because he didn't have all the heralds but he also couldn't return because he couldn't bring the heralds with him as they were already their.

Now all of this ties into highstorms because when Odium returned the first time Honor needed a weapon to fight back with. So give the heralds the ability to access surges(the spren) and give them readily available fuel to power those surges(stormlight).

Now I know their will be those who say "well what makes you say that?" "why couldn't there have always been highstorms?" Well the answer to that is that Roshar was once much more earthlike. Shinovar across the whole planet kind of deal. This would explain how there were humans in the first place. Shards have access to a lot of knowledge about the workings of the world. Don't believe me, go read what Sazed writes in the Hero of Ages.

My point is Cultivation and Honor wouldn't put something as vulnerable as Humans on a land where everything is constantly buffeted by storms that are as big as a continent and as powerful as, well huricane times ten. 

Therefore Highstorms must come after humanity and since the Heralds were the first of humanity... well you get the point.

Shinovar is the only part of Roshar sheltered from the Highstorms and that is the reason it is so earthlike. Sinovar did not evolve to become earthlike. everything else evolved to weather the storms.

I know there isn't much evidence to support that but it's the best theory I could come up with so feel free to poke holes and give me feedback.

When WoK was free on ibooks a while back i literally forced every person I knew to get it   . It was that good, even if the beginning is kind of slow.

The diagram IS flawed. Taravangian or someone close to him admits it, then they tell us that the best way to expand the diagram is the death rattles. (man it looks like i spelled that wrong)

granted, you get two.Your hair will fall out and You bark like a dog whenever you see a duck  (your profile pic)

I wish for the next SA book right now.