Bobby

I like this idea.  And yet, Szeth was named Truthless for suggesting that the Voidbringers were returning (or something similar).  When he thinks that the Radiants are back he considers it the "end of all truth."  So I think the Stone Shamans believe the lies of the Heralds that remained.  Doubting those lies seems to be their greatest heresy. 

it could also be considered heresy because it implies Taln failed. 

I  originally really liked the idea of the 3 Super Spren being the the spren for the 3 Bondsmiths.  I now disagree intensely with it.

 

Mainly because of the Recreance.

 

Syl rapidly degenerated to Windspren intelligence level during Kaladin's indiscretion. 

 

What woul happen if a Bondsmith intentionally forsook his oaths? 

Logically we should see a degeneration of their individuality as seen in Syl.

 

So if the super spren were the Bondsmiths Nahel, why is it that the Stormfather and Nightwatcher still retain their adult to reason and communicate?

I don't know why or how but according to Pattern stormfather is one of the few spren that was bonded at the time of the recreance that survived in tact

"Not just one people," Pattern said, solemn "Many. Spren with minds were less plentiful then, and the majorities of several spren peoples were all bonded. There were very few survivors. The one you call Stormfather lived. Some others. The rest, thousands of us, were killed when the event happened. you call it the Recreance."

now you could say that the "very few survivors" refers to the unbonded spren of the mostly bonded populations, but pattern said the majority not nearly all, so i think Stormfather and "some" others is more likely to be the bonded spren who were somehow strong enough to survive or perhaps lucky enough to survive and in surviving gained the strength to become the pseudo gods they are now

 

Chapter 41: Scars.  Excerpt (partial here) from Words of Radiance, Chapter 38, Page 20:

"...but this was only nine of the ten, as one said they would not abandon their arms and flee, but instead entertained great subterfuge at the expense of the other nine."

 

So.  One of the Orders didn't actually drop their Shards at the Recreance.  They left the other knights to die - possibly justifying their abandonment as a means of preserving knowledge for the future.  This does not mean they remained Radiant, only that they didn't ditch their Blades or Plate.  But the question remains, which order?

 

Again, following the logic, the order that has the least in common with the others.  What's the biggest difference between the orders that we know of?  Well, nine of the ten had their Heralds drop out of the Oathpact...

 

This is probably worth starting a new thread over, but my guess is the (notoriously stubborn) Stonewards still exist in some form, and that the name gives a great big clue as far as where they are.  Shinovar - which clearly contains people who know a lot more about the Knights Radiant and Surgebinding than anyone else does.

 

Google says I'm not the first person to think of this, which isn't surprising to me, but that's who I think the Diagram means when it mentions a traitor.

Except we know from Dalinar's vision of Feverstone Keep that Stonewards (and Windrunners) most definitely were among the orders that broke/renounced their oaths.

furthermore we know that there is a grouping calling themselves the Skybreakers still around and that at least one of them has that mystical ability to "divide the guilty from the innocent" the same that skybreakers of old had

Edit: i do believe that the Shin and their stone shamanism has something to do with Taln though. possibly their ancestors figured out that all the other heralds abandoned the oathpact, gathered up most of the remaining honourblades and started worshipping Stonesinew which eventually evolved into a complex religion in which all stone is hollow because it keeps away the desolations or some such