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Haha I just can't join you on this "Adolin love" Maxal. I guess your going down with this ship come hell or high water. I don't dislike the guy I just think he's immature at times and ignorant at others. Paradoxically, in other situations he can be very perceptive and decisive. He's whole person (fictionally speaking). You do know he's fictional right?

CognitivePulsePattern, My point is that for Kaladin and most of the other Bridgeman that may be akin to calling them the N-word. Not to mention he is intentionally bringing up a hellish part of Kaladin's past and he (like most other lighteyes including Shallan I mean as a former soldier who takes a man's boots that is really f-ed up) makes it seem like they are doing him a favor by making him a bodyguard and he should be grateful. He needs to "know" his place. I find that funny since Adolin wouldn't be alive to call anybody Bridgeboy without Kaladin several times over. As a matter of fact I can't think of one instance where Adolin saved Kaladin's life. A little patronizing no? A lot of people on this forum give Kaladin a hard time for WoR because they found him "mopey, whiney, and a bit uppity" like he doesn't have every right to be mistrustful of a people who throw thousands of lives away for their own amusement everyday and who have lied and slaughtered his friends not only once, but several times. And in fact have perpetuated a system of inequity since long before he was born. In my opinion he has responded as well as can be expected and if he is a little judgmental it is only because a supremely naive person wouldn't be defensive against these people. How many times has he saved lighteyes lives only to be rewarded with death by those very same people (not for himself but even more painfully for those who choose to follow him). I think Brandon Sanderson has intentionally or not touched on a very poignant issue most people like to ignore. There is disparity and inequity in this world that most don't want to end because they and theirs happen to be on the winning side and unfortunately some of your favorite characters have helped perpetuate it (Dalinar, Elhokar)

Read Books 1-6 Ignore 7-9 Finish up with 10-14 If you want just skip all the chapters that don't deal with Matt, Rand or Perrin. Well....you might want to skip Perrin a couple of times too and Rand gets...weird.... for awhile. Pretty much just read Matt's chapters. And for the love of GOD grit your teeth through any female povs. They are just....the worst. From beginning to ending. And I love women.

I personally think that the thus far the admittedly spotty evidence of Adolin becoming a Radiant at all points to his possibly belonging to the order of Willshaper. A collection of uncut gems who I imagine can cover a wide range of personalities kind of a catch all of the Knight's Radiant. This theory is partly based on the name of a chapter he was the POV in (he does have quite a few Maxal calm down) in Words of Radiance. However, I at this point don't see him becoming a Radiant for some time if at all.I disagree with some that his murder of Sadeas will "break" him. The SOB had it coming and I doubt anyone (Adolin included) are going to shed a tear about that. Now the ripple effects (ie unintended consquences) of this act might precipitate some discomfort that could be severe (I think his widow is potentially more lethal and treacherous than he was ) or moderate but we will have to wait and see. At this point to me Adolin seems like a somewhat decent (if a little predictable) bloke who is used to having everything without having to try very hard (women, victories what have you). As I'm sure many have already stated he seems written to embody all those traits of the arrogant rich, blonde haired blue-eyed football quarterback/Captain America trope but in this portrayal is actually not a complete cremhole but still has some serious growing to do. At this point he can still be petty just to be petty (Am I only the only one who got really irritated with the Bridgeboy comments?) and continues to be borderline racist at times in large part due to his privileged upbringing. Kaladin and Shallan's newfound status will change that irrevocably and we will see what becomes of him next. Unfortunately for the shippers out there I find his attraction to Shallan mutually shallow at best. I believe her interest is akin to a school girl crush and that since she is still having a wretched time figuring HERSELF out not a very mature perspective at this time and his attraction to me is really only based on the fact that she is a novelty to him as she is not one of the many sycophants he encounters everyday, I think that instead of the oft-horrific love triangle people are so afraid of (odd since Brandon has already touched on a version of the "love triangle" in Mistborn and everyone loves that) we will see three people grow, mature, change and may continue romantically amongst themselves or all may go elsewhere with people we haven't even encountered yet. There are 8 more books people.

I think that maybe...and I'm just spitballing here that due to the Old heralds disregarding their oathpact (the particulars of which we don't know) that the there may be a need for them to be replaced (possibly by the main characters) towards the end of the series. Like Kaladin for Jezrien. Dalinar for Ishar etc. What do you guys think?

I believe that Yelig-nar is based in name to a Great Duke of hell Eligor in Ancient Jewish theology (aka Eligos or Abigos). It is not uncommon in the Jewish language to have a name start with a silent letter like Y so i simply ignored it and looked for similar word starting with an E. Remember known as the "Great Duke of Hades", Eligor is a highly respected demon due to his deep knowledge of warfare. In modern military terms he is a high-ranking General who not only understands the subtle strategies of warfare, but also has the ability to FORSEE an enemy's position and tactics ahead of the battle itself. He also rides a WINGED steed who is also a demon.