Lightsworn Panda

Know No Fear isn't just a good Warhammer 40k book, it's also a genuinely good book on its own right. Great introduction into the grimdark universe.

Jain would like to request a spec doc for this game.

Best of luck to the players.

I am surprised to find myself still alive.

What has happened?

Once again, I must profess my sincere apologies for my spate of inactivity. I was called away yet again yesterday, and will be so for most of today too. I will most likely be able to contribute again tomorrow.

Panda signing off.

Originally, blue text meant out-of-RP or game-related discussion. If you look at some of the earlier games of Sanderson Elimination, you might notice that a large majority of the posts are written in blue text. This rule has somewhat been loosened up, and now black text is acceptable for in-game discussion (although it technically has always been so, it was just that blue text made things more distinguishable). Some players (generally the "older" ones) still adhere to that rule.

Ahh, blue-text. Brings back memories.

I'm back.

Vote Tally (Even though we're late into the Cycle)

Really sorry for not posting. My head feels like it's in a blender going through a roller coaster.

Before I pass out, I would like to say that we probably should have more votes going around. We've got 29 players, or 18 counting the inactives, so we probably should have more than just 11 votes on the tally. For now, I won't be voting since I'm too uninformed.

Jain, a walking-talking panda is signing up.

Sorry, I was unable to post yesterday due to an unexpected lack of time.

10 pages again? I've already given up on trying to take notes for this game. Time to ride through another catch-up. 

Ekko's 

(Twitch)

Xin

 

GGEZ

(TWITCH)

Here, maybe this will help.

Thank you for the TL;DR, Adavantos, although I prefer to go over a post by myself. 

Words cannot describe my tears of gratitude when I saw your vote tallies.

Alright, time to weigh in with a long post Mostly responding to Seonid as I thought it was a good summary. 

 

Why did I public roleclaim? There are a few reasons:

 

1. Ignore all my actions in previous games, this is SeriousSTINK and not SillySTINK.

2. Arguably the most important thing is your role and faction. I no longer have that as private information. (Makes the game more fun)

3. My statement still stands, that all information I know will go public, unless asked to keep it private.

4. There were reactions to my reveal at the time, use that. 

5. Most people say that talking is what the eliminators don't want, and while that may be true. They also don't want public information.

 

My role wouldn't have mattered in my decision at all, but I happened to be a Runner, and I already know who I will make a PM with. 

 

Talking about Protection, this has turned into what everyone knows and loves. An 'I Know You Know', which for all new players is when someone might say or act in a way that implies ' The Eliminators will attack me' but with the Eliminators seeing that, they decide to go for someone else. Basically it's just lots of bluffing.

 

If I was a Radiant, then I would be quite contradictory, eh?

 

I won't talk about WGGs, as anything I say about them will either make people tunnel on me more or do nothing, so there really is no point.

 

My reaction to Venture at this point is to just wait, and that we should deal with suspicions one by one, where everyone can bring up information about that person and we can slowly form an opinion about that person, as we are (mostly) doing now, with STINK.

 

(As I was writing this 3 people replied to Seonid) 

Switching playstyles isn't that easy, from my experience. You'll find your SeriousSTINK will still have traces of SillySTINK all over it (For example, your point 2. If you wanted to play the game seriously, you would have held on to your cards longer and not revealed your role, especially not just for the thrill of it). It took multiple games and a couple of throws before ErraticJain finally started stabilizing. 

I'm rather undecided regarding STINK's reveal. He hasn't exactly given us much in terms of explanation (admittedly, I do have Wilson-thesis level expectations), so there really can't accuse his reasoning, although we certainly could accuse his lack of it. For now, I'll just put it down as a game-opening gambit. 

STINK's long post seems somewhat inflated to me. 3 of its paragraphs (The WGG, Radiant and Protection one) are rather unnecessary, or just stating the obvious. To me, you're attempting to look like a helpful and contributing member. Your motives are up for debate, of course, although I won't judge you for them just yet.

What intrigues me is how Hellscythe and STINK jumped on Creccio. Their reasons of accusation mainly appear to be A) Creccio is attempting to not die and Creccio is being suspicious. Reason A) Is understandable. Wanting to stay alive is perfectly normal. I mean, I know the service and community in the dead docs are great, but it just doesn't beat being alive, you know? We shouldn't be condemning a player to death just for suddenly having a spike in survival instinct. Sure, Creccio could be trying to stay alive since she had just gained an important role, but it's equally possible that she's fed up with dying early so often. Also, Hellscythe and STINK's reasoning are also rather hypocritical. Both have been suspected, targeted and voted for. Attempting to bandwagon Creccio just for trying to stay alive doesn't appear to be very selfless to me. As for reason , you could slap anyone in the game for that one.

For now, I'm willing to buy Creccio's "Lost" and "Trying to help" stance. I advocate that we give him/her some time to prove herself, and make judgements then.

9 Pages on the first Cycle.

Wut. 

Time to catch up...

> Finish Shadows of Self

> Why Brandon Why

> The feels

> Sacrifice own brother to Brandon for giving us yet another excellent book

> Sacrifice a puppy to spite Brandon leaving us with such a cold ending

> Immediately go to 17th Shard SoS Spoiler Board

> Hunt down the first chapter of Bands of Mourning and inhale it

> Left satisfied yet unsatisfied at the same time

> Enter cryosleep to weather the long wait for BoM

On a side note, I believe Roshar doesn't have cows and pigs. No wonder why Hoid somewhat dislikes the place.

Jain, a walking-talking panda, is signing up.

Just to clarify, are votes considered actions in this game?

Good game all, and my highest complements to the Eliminators, who made it through the game without losing a single member! Kinda like a reverse MR2.

What a way to go. Come back from a hiatus, and die of inactivity. 

What does (Cri) mean Jain? \

Short for "Crying". Meant as a joke, of course, since Alv is indeed a far better player than I am. That being said, feel free to scan me first. 

I'm going to vote on Jain. It seems to me that all he's done so far is defend himself. He hasn't voted, and he hasn't really added all that much in terms of discussion. The way he's playing really reminds me of the way Winter was playing in MR9. In that game, all Winter did for the last few Cycles she was alive was defend herself. She never tried to help find and root out the eliminators, because she was one. Maybe it's just Jains style, but it seems similar to me.

Currently, I'm a bit time-gated, so I have to play passive and reactively. Once I get enough time, however, then I can start being more proactive and aggressive. And, like I said before, if I actually wanted to hide, then I wouldn't just be passive and defensive. That'd be far too conspicuous.

Did QF 11 just become a tag...

 

Jain:

 

After we talked about League of Legends in the thread, he said that day one lynches are a thing we can do to gain information and data. Then after that he votes for "peace" or "no death" or something like that and join me and Alv on the nothing happened club.

 

One thing I am wary of is that math like the one he shows is simply flawed. I am (again) a math major and seeing things like that irks me. It is true that blindly choosing we have that much chance, but the way this game operates is hardly blind. Even the first check is not blind. Maybe he is using maths and trying to advocate for lynchs and seem proactive but instead he is following his own agenda.

 

Suspicion level: He is up there with Alv. 

I've already explained why I apparently voted for a "No-Death", so I won't go over that again.

Math isn't my strong point, as you can see. Nevertheless, scanning is a slow process, and remember that this isn't an entirely mathematical game. You've got to make space and allowance for stupidity, inactivity and other human factors. We can accelerate the process that with discussion.

I don't see how I'm following my own agenda. If I wanted to, I'd just hide and turtle it out like i have done in other games. All I'm doing is advocating an opinion which you don't seem to be fond of (which is fine, as you are entitled to your own opinion of how the game runs.)

 

 

 

Of the two I would like to have Alv checked before Jain if not for the fact that Alv is more active and has reputation on SE of being good and experienced, so yea, there goes that.

(Cri)

The exact words I used in more PM were:

"I vote for no-one"

Hopefully, that clears things up. I hand't intended it to be "No-Death" vote, but considering the circumstances, it may be too late for it to be rectified. 

I do want to hear from Jain. He did say that he was likely to vote and then voted for no one to die? Remember, this is a specific vote that would have to be put in for, not just never putting a vote in like what happened with me. I didn't realize that the rollover was so soon! I thought it was later my

I sent in a "no-vote" near the start of the cycle, then changed my mind after reconsideration. I forgot to change the vote afterwards.

I am also quite confused about how this came to be. If I was planning on not voting I wouldn't have sent anything to Maill. Also I think the Rulo was most likely just testing the powers to see how it would show up in the write-up and/or something to prove a claimed role. 

 

I will be putting my vote back on Jain. You posted about the how beneficial day one lynches are and said a vote was forhtcoming. Not only did you not put in a vote but you specified (not exactly sure how yet) that you didn't want anyone to die. Why the change?

Sorry, I don't seem to understand. I've never said that I didn't want anyone to die. I believe you're questioning me for a "no-vote" like Meta. My reasons have already been stated.

I haven't been able to read over the sign-up thread in detail, so pardon me if I repeat a question, but can a Jindonese soldier protect themselves?

I play ton of league of legends. Long live the ADC overlords of your metagme. I am also a HUGE Jinx fans as you can see.

My Jax and Yi are equally happy with this new meta (Hybrid Yi and Jax FTW). I myself am a big Zed fan. For a time my signature as "The Unseen Panda is the Deadliest".

Also, please do NOT think or assume anything in the game except for the Soldier combo. Mail is tricky and he said somewhere i cant recall that he WAS going to mess with us. We have 17 players, i bet we have 4 on the Cult side because thats about 25% I guess..

 

Right now we should not bother with the amount of traitors but who IS a traitor or not.

 

At this point i believe the "d1 lynch" discussion is meaningless and we should NOT i repeat, NOT have a lynch... Give the scanner some time to work and lets hope that person gets lucky.

 

If anyone disagrees please let me know, lets share ideas and come up with a plan to get this going

I understand that playing passive and not lynching someone on the first day might minimalize our casualities. In some Long and Mid-Range Games, this strategy could be viable. Unfortunately, we are currently playing a Quick Fix game, which encourages faster and more aggressive gameplay. Having a Day 1 lynch provides us with much more data, in the form of votes and reasoning, and can also kick-start discussion. By not having a Day 1 lynch, we are stagnating our own information pool. Letting the scanner/s do his job would take far too long. Statistically speaking, the Priest has a 1 in 4 or 5 chance of finding an Elminator, so it could potentially take the scanner multiple days to tag an Eliminator. Leaving it up to luck is too risky. We must make advances too.

Panda signing in. I have nothing to contribute as of yet, and nothing in terms of relevant discussion. A poke vote may be coming.

Creccio, do you play League of Legends?

Wyrm Inquisition represent!

Captain Teemo on duty! Panda reporting in. You will, my hands.

Oh sweet pandas what has happened to me why am I making so many LoL references.

You're back!! Welcome back, Jain!

Thank you, Mail. Nice to see you again!

It's set in Australia, it's much earlier in the timeline than the Oregon RPs and has a set game-time:Real-time ratio

So my fly-spitting kangaroo-riding crocodile-hunting dropbear Epic won't be out of place then...

Pardon my slowness, but by the set game-time:Real-time ratio, do you mean that if a day passed IRL, a day would have passed in the Wastelands?

Sorry for the intrusion, but what exactly is the Wastelands? From what I gather, it appears to be a RP set in the Wastelands of the Reckoners series. Are there any particular rules that I should be aware of?

Thank you.

Jain, a walking talking panda, is signing up.