Emperor's Soul - Shai's Room (after Forging it)

Speaking of "each and every furniture":  Where did the accoutrements around the hearth come from?  The vases, the dustpan, the folding screen?  Also several other bits of furniture that materialize from the aether between the before and after pictures.  

On 2.7.2017 at 6:14 PM, Landis963 said:

Speaking of "each and every furniture":  Where did the accoutrements around the hearth come from?  The vases, the dustpan, the folding screen?  Also several other bits of furniture that materialize from the aether between the before and after pictures.  

She has to break down the wall to the next room, which is a storage room - and in the process even manages to find material for a hearth. So given that information, I am pretty sure there will be some old clutter in that other part of room that she can get her hands on for some additional furniture as well.

9 hours ago, Lyraina said:

She has to break down the wall to the next room, which is a storage room - and in the process even manages to find material for a hearth. So given that information, I am pretty sure there will be some old clutter in that other part of room that she can get her hands on for some additional furniture as well.

I'm not certain that Forgery works that way, exactly - what she did with that particular alteration is retcon the construction of both rooms so her room is larger and is furnished with a hearth.  Furthermore, I suspect those two changes are the products of different stamps.  In any event, what Forgery cannot do is create Cognitive presences from scratch - and I spy upwards of 9 different objects which don't have counterparts in the before picture, but now exist and therefore have a presence in the Cognitive Realm.  

Then again, Shai is a Forging master who created a nigh-seamless AI copy of a living human from (basically) scratch within a quarter of a year, as well as a master con artist who was basically one step ahead of her captors for the entirety of her captivity.  It's well within the realm of possibility that she simply asked her guards for more things to Forge.  For example, that table with the cards on it was undoubtedly brought by the guards to while away yet another boring shift in Shai's room.  

1 hour ago, Landis963 said:

I'm not certain that Forgery works that way, exactly - what she did with that particular alteration is retcon the construction of both rooms so her room is larger and is furnished with a hearth.  Furthermore, I suspect those two changes are the products of different stamps.  In any event, what Forgery cannot do is create Cognitive presences from scratch - and I spy upwards of 9 different objects which don't have counterparts in the before picture, but now exist and therefore have a presence in the Cognitive Realm.  

Then again, Shai is a Forging master who created a nigh-seamless AI copy of a living human from (basically) scratch within a quarter of a year, as well as a master con artist who was basically one step ahead of her captors for the entirety of her captivity.  It's well within the realm of possibility that she simply asked her guards for more things to Forge.  For example, that table with the cards on it was undoubtedly brought by the guards to while away yet another boring shift in Shai's room.  

Maybe you are right. Maybe you are not. Maybe she found some more fragments of an object in the corner, or stole another item from the hallways on her way back from a bath, like she stole the vase. In the end I choose to go with the visually more pleasing version, which from my interpretation of the book is not an impossibility in this case. I do appreciate you actually taking the time to analyse and count my pictures this closely though!