Azarias Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 20 hours ago, Bzhydack said: Maybe less speculative than many can think - we know that earlier Odium wasnt able to bond his Spren with Humans, he did this during OB for the first time. But was able to bond Voidspren with Singers. What Singers have, and Humans dont? - Gemhearts. Another piece of evidence to back this up is the fact that the voidbinding chart has a gem in the middle- could be a coincidence but knowing Brandon I think not 2
Skaromas he/him Posted July 22, 2020 Posted July 22, 2020 There is one major problem with the theory, which is that the knights radiant order are a combination of Honour and Cultivation so no part of odium should be part of the original orders. 1
KandraAllomancer he/him Posted July 26, 2020 Author Posted July 26, 2020 On 22.07.2020 at 2:34 PM, Skaromas said: There is one major problem with the theory, which is that the knights radiant order are a combination of Honour and Cultivation so no part of odium should be part of the original orders. They are, but the Voidbinding chart has pretty much the same structure, so I assume that the Voidbinding orders/levels would kind of correspond to the KR Orders, justifying the usage of terms like Bondsmiths, Truthwatchers etc. (though the names might turn out to be different in the end) 1
Skaromas he/him Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 Based on what you have said I guess it makes more sense, but voidbinding so far has been limited to the fused, because surely if it was accesible to regular singers or even royals then they would have a lot more than just the shown fused, there could be a way involving spren and gem hearts but the unmade are similar in size to the Bondsmith spren in terms of power (sometimes) and seem way more powerful than any of the radiant spren, Bondsmith fits well but they definitely wouldn’t be called that (as you said above). 1
KandraAllomancer he/him Posted July 27, 2020 Author Posted July 27, 2020 33 minutes ago, Skaromas said: Based on what you have said I guess it makes more sense, but voidbinding so far has been limited to the fused, because surely if it was accesible to regular singers or even royals then they would have a lot more than just the shown fused, there could be a way involving spren and gem hearts but the unmade are similar in size to the Bondsmith spren in terms of power (sometimes) and seem way more powerful than any of the radiant spren, Bondsmith fits well but they definitely wouldn’t be called that (as you said above). I don't think that what the Fused do is Voidbinding - they get one Surge instead of two and their Illumination creates illusions instead of seeing the future. Their abilities seem like a version of Surgebinding. Many Regals also wouldn't qualify (e.g. Stormform) based on the fact that we haven't seen Voidbinding before Oathbringer: Quote Questioner How many magic systems are in The Stormlight Archive, and how many of them haven't been seen? Brandon Sanderson I would say the only major one you haven’t seen is Voidbinding, it depends on how you count them. I count fabrials as one, Surgebinding as one, and Voidbinding as one. And then the Old Magic is kind of its own weird thing. Calamity Seattle signing (Feb. 17, 2016) The only confirmed Voidbinding ability is Renarin's futuresight (and quite possibly the Nightform), but that was obtained via indirect methods (e.g Glys' corruption) 1
Skaromas he/him Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 Oh sorry, I don’t read WOBs so I didn’t know that fact I guess you are correct on that point.
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