Curiosity he/him Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 It seems to be a commonly accepted fact that Preservation fundamentally changed allomancy before he sacrificed his consciousness to trap Ruin. It is said that he took away cadmium and bendalloy from the "official" ranks of allomantic metal and replaced them with atium (and malatium?). Two things: 1) Did he actually change the way in which allomancy works? Or did the people just not know about those metals yet? (I tend to believe the latter… but feel free to change my mind!) 2) If allomancy was fundamentally changed for that period, how was it changed? Was it the introduction of new Mistings or what? If it's quite obvious that what the answers are, please link me to the source (i.e. the wiki page, specific q&a, etc.). If not, the debate is on!
Kadrok she/her Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) It seems to be a commonly accepted fact that Preservation fundamentally changed allomancy before he sacrificed his consciousness to trap Ruin. It is said that he took away cadmium and bendalloy from the "official" ranks of allomantic metal and replaced them with atium (and malatium?). Two things: 1) Did he actually change the way in which allomancy works? Or did the people just not know about those metals yet? (I tend to believe the latter… but feel free to change my mind!) 2) If allomancy was fundamentally changed for that period, how was it changed? Was it the introduction of new Mistings or what? If it's quite obvious that what the answers are, please link me to the source (i.e. the wiki page, specific q&a, etc.). If not, the debate is on! I'll find you the quote, but my understanding is that he basically rigged it so that instead of Cadmium and Bendalloy mistings appearing, there'd be Atium and Malatium mistings. No change for Mistborn. Give me a sec to find it... EDIT 1: Still looking, but found this which partially addresses the issue, and is just plain interesting: Interview: Oct 11th, 2013 Steelheart Signing Report - otomo (Paraphrased) Brandon SandersonI asked to confirm whether after Sazed's ascension if there were any more atium or malatium Mistings. He said "there are no more, in that way..." and I said "In that way, huh?" and he gave me an ominous look.Tags atium, allomancy,Source: http://www.theoryland.com/intvsresults.php?kwt=%27atium%27 (Number 43) Will keep looking. EDIT 2: WHERE IS IT?! I know I've read it somewhere... EDIT 3: FOUND IT!!!! Interview: Jul, 2009BarnesandNoble.com Book Club Q&A with Brandon SandersonChaos2651Hemalurgically, atium steals Allomantic Temporal Powers. But, that seems unlikely, since atium is a god metal. It wouldn't fit in with the rest of the magic system. Did Preservation, in addition to switching Cadmium and Bendalloy for Atium and Malatium, also switch atium's Feruchemical and Hemalurgic powers with Cadmium? Because it seems to me there's not a lot of atium Marsh can use to live for hundreds of years into the next Mistborn trilogy.Brandon Sanderson Preservation wanted Atium and Malatium to be of use to the people, as he recognized that it would be a very powerful tool—and that using it up could help defeat Ruin. But he also recognized that sixteen was a mythological important number, and felt it would make the best sign for his followers. So he took out the most unlikely (difficult to make and use) metals for his sign to his followers. But that doesn't have much to do with Hemalurgy's use here. Remember that the tables—and the ars Arcanum—are 'in world' creations. (Or, at least, in-universe.) The knowledge represented in them is as people understand it, and can always have flaws. That was the case with having atium on the table in the first place, and that was the case with people (specifically the Inquisitors) trying to figure out what atium did Hemalurgically. Their experiments (very expensive ones) are what determined that atium (which they thought was just one of the sixteen metals) granted the Allomantic Temporal powers. What they didn't realize is that atium (used correctly) could steal ANY of the powers. Think of it as a wild card. With the right knowledge, you could use it to mimic any other spike. It works far better than other spikes as well. As for Marsh, he's got a whole bag of atium (taken off of the Kandra who was going to try to sell it.) So he's all right for quite a while. A small bead used right can reverse age someone back to their childhood. But this was a little beyond their magical understanding at the time. Tags mistborn, Source: http://www.theoryland.com/intvsresults.php?kwt=%27mistborn%27 (Number 147) So... that doesn't really answer your question, does it... I mean it does tell you that he did change how Allomancy (or perhaps snapping) worked by "[taking] out..." some of the metals... but it's not very specific. Hopefully someone has a more specific quote, because that's me tapped out. Edited May 13, 2014 by Kadrok 6
Curiosity he/him Posted May 13, 2014 Author Posted May 13, 2014 Well, maybe the biggest change would be atium mistings appearing, since Preservation created the Pits of Hathsin to store a part of Ruin's power. I guess the real question is "Were there any Sliders or Pulsers in that time?" Thanks Kadrok! I'm terrible at finding quotes, so I appreciate your help!
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