Zelly Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) Tarah's dad info just seems to be a straight up RAFO. Spoiler Questioner [PENDING REVIEW] Has [Tarah's] dad been onscreen in the books? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] RAFO. Questioner [PENDING REVIEW] Do we know his name? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] RAFO. source We're deep in wild speculation (my favorite!) with this. Curiously RAFO, though. As for the original topic, in my reading I thought that Nohadon was not a surgebinder at the time of Dalinar's original visions, then later acquired the bond at an unknown point. Leaning towards Bondsmith for the simple connection it makes between him and Dalinar, which might explain the weird visions. If Nohadon had previously bonded Stormdad, there may be some sort of .....uh.....soul resonance/connection there. Edited October 25, 2018 by Zellyia
BeginattheendDie Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 I cant find it!! I started reading the Cosmere about a year ago but only found the fandom recently and have read so much I cant find the Wob! 1
Ashaman_Wade he/him Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 I wrote something down when listening to the Nohadon dream with Dalinar but I'm not sure how accurate this is - Nohadon is a cognitive shadow, still alive. Nohadon is the sibling. As far as Nohadon being a CS, what would happen if a man walked Roshar in a way that mirrors Honors human life if he had chosen to create one? Would Honor put enough investiture in that human to make him an Avatar and let him walk the earth still? An honest... more honest.? Sort of Survivor. Being the sibling, just meant a human that could connect through the strata that truly cared for every human life on Roshar. He was part of structuring the Silver kingdoms and wrote the book that set up the foundation of the knights radiant. Someone who was heavily of both Honor and Cultivation because the WoK brought great change throughout Roshar. Now that that is off my chest. Nohadon was a Bondsmith there are too many parallels with dalinar for me to not believe it. Then looking forward, this is the first time we have a bonded bondsmith with no checks on their power with Honor dead and this could have happened to Nohadon since the Nahel bond was beginning in Nohadons time. So they both have a task of uniting the world, uniting and founding the knights radiant, and they both try to live a way that exudes honor and cultivates honor in those around them. Then there is the light Dalinar sees/feels from hearing the WoK read and his source of inspiration that he drew to write OB. Couldn't find any new WoB to substantiate anything, but book 5 will have Bondsmith powers out in full so I'm really hoping the parallels between the two shows us a huge use of Honors power and gives us a view of how the first surgebinders used the powers without being bound by Ishar and Honor restricting their power.
Tglassy Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 On 8/20/2018 at 4:31 AM, Morsk said: It could be the God Beyond. If the vision were obviously real, I'd think it couldn't be, because the God Beyond is never canon. The suspicious part for me is that Nohadon says he thinks life is fair, even if people can't always see why. I find this amazingly stupid for anyone to say, unless they're an omnibenevolent God who fixes everything eventually. I changed my mind. I think it's more likely the Spiritual Realm's "copy" of Nohadon. I can forgive silly ideas about life being fair, since this version of Nohadon is connected to everything, and it's not a real person. The Aimian in the Interlude says some people have magic to draw knowledge from the dead. Dalinar must be one of those people. I don't like the idea of the God Beyond showing up for multiple pages, anyway. I expect it to maybe have manipulated one thing per book, or maybe not have. Appearing is a bit much. Life is fair. Everyone who has ever lived has been born and dies. Nothing is ever promised beyond that. Take two people born in the same town to the similar parents who attend the same school and take the same first job, and their choices will determine where they go in life. Of two rich people, one becomes an alcoholic abuser while the other becomes a philanthropist. Take two poor people, and one becomes an alcoholic abuser while the other rises above his station and makes something of his life. Both had the same opportunity. Both made their choice. Yes, everyone has circumstance trying to force them into one direction or another, but everyone has a choice and is responsible to their own choices. Even slaves have a choice. Obey your master or revolt. Do well or be lazy. (Of course, the main difference between slaves and the modern job worker is the job worker gets to choose who their master is, and can be free at anytime if they had the gumption). Death comes to everyone, so which life would you rather die from? Being the slave or revolting? Being the job worker who barely scrapes by or being the potentially failed business owner who could lose everything? That's you're choice. There is nothing "Unfair" about that. Success is not guaranteed. Neither is failure. And sometimes people will oppose you, and sometimes you will get things you didn't earn, either positive or negative, but that doesn't make things "Unfair." Regardless of what circumstance you find yourself in, there are too many people who have lived through that same situation and made it into something good and wonderful for it to be able to destroy you. Therefore, yes, life is fair. Just not the type of fair that most people WANT it to be. Most people want "fair" to mean everyone gets everything regardless of what they put into it. But the reality is that life is one giant example of GIGO. Garbage In, Garbage Out. You get out of life what you put into it, and if you put in laziness, entitlement and complaining, then that's what you'll get.
Quantus he/him Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 Hopping back tot hte topic of whether Nohadon founded the Radiant Orders: in OB the Stormfather told Dalinar that "Ishar founded the Orders". Do we believe him? Is there some way he could believe he is correct but be misrepresenting the actual events. Is it possible that Nohadon was an alias for Ishar (or any other herald for that matter)?
Calderis he/him Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 26 minutes ago, Quantus said: Hopping back tot hte topic of whether Nohadon founded the Radiant Orders: in OB the Stormfather told Dalinar that "Ishar founded the Orders". Do we believe him? Is there some way he could believe he is correct but be misrepresenting the actual events. Is it possible that Nohadon was an alias for Ishar (or any other herald for that matter)? Considering the Stormfather's "he was a good man" I highly doubt it. And we have multiple sources for Ishtar founding the knights. Taln calling shall an "one of Ishar's knights" the storm father, and the epigraphs about him forcing them to be bound to precepts and laws on pain of death.
Quantus he/him Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, Calderis said: Considering the Stormfather's "he was a good man" I highly doubt it. The two arent incompatible given how the Heralds have declined, but I ted to agree that it's a strange difference in description. Quote And we have multiple sources for Ishtar founding the knights. Taln calling shall an "one of Ishar's knights" the storm father, and the epigraphs about him forcing them to be bound to precepts and laws on pain of death. You know, I think I was misreading the context. I recall now the other references that Ishar organized the emerging Radiants into the Orders as organizations, I was taking this as indication that he had something more specific to do with the emergence of spren-bonded Radiants in the first place. But in retrospect I dont think it says that, he's just saying the term "Windrunner" didnt arise until Ishar's involvement, but it makes more sense that it's referring to those organizations.
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