Khyrindor Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Firstly, this theory has many holes, so feel free to pick on them, or fill them in. We know that Szeth is a Surgebinder with Gravitation powers, but (as far as I know) we never see his supposed Windrunner Adhesion powers in use. Perhaps this is because he was a Skybreaker from the start. This would be a good reason for Nalan to 'retrieve' him. But you say, "Szeth has Jezrien's Honourblade!" Perhaps not. Maybe he had Nalan's Honourblade from the start (This is the hole). We know Syl thinks that It is an Honourblade, but I think that Kaladin getting Jezrien's Honourblade would be redundant. MUCH cooler for him to have a third power. There's also a lot of confusion with Taln and Dalinar, so there's a lot we don't know about them. Brandon says that you can't bond with them, and yet Szeth can summon/dismiss his (This is another hole), which may imply that he doesn't even have Nalan's. AND he doesn't have a spren, which means that he doesn't have Skybreakers' powers naturally. Am I missing anything? Now that Szeth UNBONDED his blade (according to Nalan) when he died, does that mean he lost whatever powers he had? Let's hope we get more information in book 3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurkistan Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) Szeth uses the Full Lashing several times in WoK. That one's definitely based on Adhesion. And just so you know, we've since had that whole "humans can't bond Honorblades" thing cleared up: they totally can. Brandon's also obliquely confirmed Szeth having an Honorblade several times. Edited March 24, 2014 by Kurkistan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khyrindor Posted March 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) Which one is the Full Lashing? Don't have the book handy. Thank you for the second part: You've filled in a couple of holes. If Szeth can bond an Honourblade, then he could have Nalan's (If the Adhesion thing is cleared up). By the way, can you put down a link to where it was cleared up? Want to see it for myself. I'll go see the Ars Arcanum now. EDIT: Nevermind, I remember when Szeth infused the door to the wall, so nevermind. It still seems weird that Nalan chose him as his ... Helper? Edited March 24, 2014 by Khyrindor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurkistan Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 I EDITED in a link a few minutes after posting, sorry for not getting it in more quickly. The Full Lashing is the "stuff sticks to stuff" Lashing, and both Ars Arcanums (as well as Brandon) are quite clear that it's using Adhesion/Pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnanimous Taz Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 The full lashing was where he sealed the door shut against the guards in kholinar. We also have WoB that he is not bonded to a spren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khyrindor Posted March 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Yep, found it. I edited my comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) EDIT: Nevermind, I remember when Szeth infused the door to the wall, so nevermind. It still seems weird that Nalan chose him as his ... Helper? Szeth fanatically followed the laws of his people and upheld his own personal code of honor even despite the horrible toll it took on him. I can see why Nalan approves of him. I don't really think it's weird at all. Also, the Honorblade was good training for Szeth, since he already knows how to use Gravity for when he becomes a Skybreaker. That's nice, I guess. Edited March 24, 2014 by Moogle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverlakes Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Does the new sword that Nalan gives to Szeth not remind anyone else of the sword from War Breaker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) Does the new sword that Nalan gives to Szeth not remind anyone else of the sword from War Breaker? It is the same sword from Warbreaker. If you look closely, you should be able to spot a certain grumpy character from Warbreaker in WoR as well. Edited March 24, 2014 by Moogle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverlakes Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 I read Warbreaker many years ago, who is the grumpy character? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorridgeBrick Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Reread it. It's free online, and Brandon wrote it, so it's totally worth rereading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) I read Warbreaker many years ago, who is the grumpy character? Vasher. He goes by the name Zahel on Roshar. Edited March 24, 2014 by Moogle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khyrindor Posted March 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 I need to reread it to. Haven't for a few years as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Deleted- Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Well, Szeth doesn't have an Honorblade anymore, but I'm not sure what to make of your theory. I'm having a hard time following it. i'm just excited to see how the Assassin in White gets along with Nightblood. But yes, I think he lost the powers the Blade gave him when it unbonded upon his death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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