[OB] The Stormfather is Honor's Shard/Mandate

[MountainKing]

I think that Honor turned the Stormfather into the physical representation of the shard, so that when he gets shattered there is a clear way to piece the investiture back together.

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A direct conduit to the Spiritual Realm, the Stormfather said. You renew spheres, Dalinar?

“We are Connected.”

I was bonded to men before. This never happened then.

“Honor was alive then. We are something different. His remnants, your soul, my will.”

Sanderson, Brandon. Oathbringer: Book Three of the Stormlight Archive (p. 1141). Tom Doherty Associates. Kindle Edition.

Dalinar is able to draw Honor's investiture directly from the Spiritual Realm, which only shards and some created  beings can do. Dalinar is neither a shard nor a being that can naturally draw investiture from the spiritual realm. Dalinar is fusing his spiritweb with the Stormfather. With every oath he makes he in the Stormfather become more connected, just like when Sazed took up the shards in Hero of Ages.

I think Honor did this intentionally to change the Mandate to unity instead of Honor, because only those who keep the oaths of a bondsmith can get far enough to ascend to a shard.

(I know this seems like I'm Rambling I will touch it up later.)

 

[Weltall]

We have WoB that a Vessel can express the Intent of their Shard differently but the core of that Intent can't be changed and that the Vessel is essentially filtering something of Adonalsium. Thus, if Dalinar were to reassemble Honor the result might be expressed differently but it would still have to resemble the fundamentally same concept. And according to a recent WoB, the Shards know what they are, though some (like Odium) are resisting it for whatever reason. So whether 'Honor' as expressed in the making and keeping of oaths could become 'Unity' as seems to be represented by the Bondsmiths and their Ideals would depend on just how big of a change that is to the fundamental concept that the Shard represents.

I think that to get a major change you'd need to combine Shards, like happened with Preservation and Ruin. We know that combined Shard could be expressed in different ways if someone other than Sazed were to hold it or if Sazed wasn't able to balance the conflicting Intents. Well, he strictly said there was another name Sazed could go by, but I think there's enough of a difference between Harmony and Discord that we can call those two different Intents.

But there is that whole refrain of 'Unite them' and we don't know just what Tanavast meant so... it's definitely worth considering. And both could be true, if Tanavast was thinking in the really long term and not just setting up Roshar to survive the next Desolation.

[MountainKing]

6 minutes ago, Weltall said:

We have WoB that a Vessel can express the Intent of their Shard differently but the core of that Intent can't be changed and that the Vessel is essentially filtering something of Adonalsium. Thus, if Dalinar were to reassemble Honor the result might be expressed differently but it would still have to resemble the fundamentally same concept. And according to a recent WoB, the Shards know what they are, though some (like Odium) are resisting it for whatever reason. So whether 'Honor' as expressed in the making and keeping of oaths could become 'Unity' as seems to be represented by the Bondsmiths and their Ideals would depend on just how big of a change that is to the fundamental concept that the Shard represents.

I think that to get a major change you'd need to combine Shards, like happened with Preservation and Ruin. We know that combined Shard could be expressed in different ways if someone other than Sazed were to hold it or if Sazed wasn't able to balance the conflicting Intents. Well, he strictly said there was another name Sazed could go by, but I think there's enough of a difference between Harmony and Discord that we can call those two different Intents.

But there is that whole refrain of 'Unite them' and we don't know just what Tanavast meant so... it's definitely worth considering. And both could be true, if Tanavast was thinking in the really long term and not just setting up Roshar to survive the next Desolation.

Tanavast chose Honor becasue he binds things. When you have unity things are bound together. (Sometimes)