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So here we have our shy female hero with a dark past(Vin\Shallan). Her father is in a very questionable organization and her older brother is killed. She joins an group to save the world because she has innate powers. She ends up falling in love with a nobleborn who has no innate powers (elend/adolin) who initially feels overshadowed by his powerful love interest who he doesn't realize is dealing with the fact that she doesn't know who she truly is. Meanwhile, our female hero is also grappling with possible feelings for a brooding but witty lowborn who also has innate powers and is really good with them, whose name starts with K. Even though the nobleborn says he'll step aside for the lowborn, she ends up choosing to stay with the nobleborn because he truly understands her and accepts her for who she is.

*mic drop*

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And...? So...? Therefore....?

If you want to look at things in very broad strokes, sure. The closer you examine things, the more superficial they become. Having 'darkness' is a shared trait of their respective magic systems, insofar as Initiation into the one requires snapping and an act of reaching out to preserve onself and the other requires a cracked soul into which the Nahel Bond can fit, but the nature of their traumas, their reaction to it and their family circumstances are all very different. The biggest similarity is that in both cases, their early lives sucked, but that's just on the surface. Compare their brothers for example: Yes, both are killed but in completely different situations and with completely different affects on the two. Reen tried to beat a particular mindset into Vin because it was the only way he knew to reinforce what he was trying to teach her, and it left her emotionally crippled for a long time. He was killed protecting Vin, though she didn't know that. Helaran by contrast was a far better brother-figure but who got himself killed in circumstances having nothing to do with Shallan, before he could make a difference in the Davar's domestic situation. OB spoiler

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There's also a very good chance that he might have been sent to kill Shallan one day, had he lived. He was with the Skybreakers, she was a budding Radiant. We don't know if he would have done it but it's probably best that he never found out what really happened that night.

And that's before delving into the insanity that is Shallan's love life. Or the insanity that is Zane.

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On 1/31/2018 at 7:46 PM, Mistborn Surgebinder said:

Meanwhile, our female hero is also grappling with possible feelings for a brooding but witty lowborn who also has innate powers and is really good with them, whose name starts with K.

Wait, what? Who? You don't mean.... Ew! Gross.

I'm choosing to believe that it's just been a while since you read Mistborn.

Also: here, you dropped this. *hands you a slightly dented microphone*

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On 1/31/2018 at 8:46 PM, Mistborn Surgebinder said:

So here we have our shy female hero with a dark past(Vin\Shallan). Her father is in a very questionable organization and her older brother is killed. She joins an group to save the world because she has innate powers. She ends up falling in love with a nobleborn who has no innate powers (elend/adolin) who initially feels overshadowed by his powerful love interest who he doesn't realize is dealing with the fact that she doesn't know who she truly is. Meanwhile, our female hero is also grappling with possible feelings for a brooding but witty lowborn who also has innate powers and is really good with them, whose name starts with K. Even though the nobleborn says he'll step aside for the lowborn, she ends up choosing to stay with the nobleborn because he truly understands her and accepts her for who she is.

*mic drop*

Um...I'm going to say that I largely agree the other two comments here. I just finished the original Mistborn trilogy again, and Vin =/= Shallan. Not at all. Not even in the slightest. Not even in the--okay, well, they're both short.

And your comment about "grappling with possible feelings for a brooding but witty lowborn who also has innate powers and is really good with them, whose name starts with K" is directly refuted by Vin in Mistborn: The Final Empire. Vin thought of Kelsier as a father figure. I know it was a really popular idea with my teenage sister that those two end up together, but...ew. Also, I wouldn't describe Kelsier as brooding. I think that moniker actually fits Elend, more than it fits Kelsier. Especially in HoA. And the nobleborn never said he would step aside for the lowborn in Mistborn. By the time Elend even intimated such a sentiment, Kel was dead for a year, and Vin immediately refuted him.

If you want to draw these kinds of similarities, then let's also, for that matter, include...um...most main characters with a tragic backstory and a romantic interest? I mean...you're just outlining standard plot devices. The characters themselves, the plots, and even the arcs of the novels is completely different. I don't mean to be rude--if this was a genuine theory than I applaud you for trying to get an idea out, but perhaps you could be more specific and draw more exacting parallels, go into a little bit more analysis?

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