wannabeninja Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Hey everyone, So i Don’t know if this has been pointed out but now that we know that the Desolations were first started by the Humans invading Roshar with Odium as their first god. Who was the Oathpact originally intended for? Was it for the humans or the parshendi? I originally thought the oathpact was an answer to the desolations from Honor and the radiants were a response to the oathpact with spren copying it. Does this mean that the heralds aren’t the original people in the oathpact? Were they originally parshendi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvoraen Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) It seemed very clearly meant for helping those in opposition to Odium (the implication being "for humans"), and came about long after the initial invasion of humans onto Roshar. From what the Stormfather said, the Oathpact was a prison/seal for the (Odium-invested) souls of the ancient Listeners who could not die. It was designed for the Heralds to function as the jailers of those souls, by exiling them from Roshar and sealing them there. Since the Fused couldn't be killed, since that soul could just inhabit another Listener, the Heralds asked Honor to help them formulate the Oathpact so that humans had a means of fighting back against the Fused. I think the rough timeline was like this: - Humans arrive on Roshar with Odium as their deity. They're granted the Shinovar(?) region as their land. - Relative time of peace. Humans possibly turn their backs on Odium, or his influence wanes due to Honor and Cultivation's established presence on Roshar. - Humans progress out of their allotted region and expand. Eventual conflicts with the Dawnsingers occur, leading to the First Desolation. - Listeners angry at the aggressive human expansion turn to Odium and become Invested with powers, unable to die, which creates those that would be known as the Fused. - The Heralds form the Oathpact to combat the perpetual nature of the Fused and seal those souls away on Braize / Damnation. - The cycle of Desolations begins. Edited November 20, 2017 by dvoraen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannabeninja Posted November 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Oh I see. If that's the case though I wonder what caused Honor/Cultivation to choose humans over the native parshendi. Or why the parshendi didn't first go to Honor/cultivation before resorting to Odium... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvoraen Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 16 minutes ago, wannabeninja said: Oh I see. If that's the case though I wonder what caused Honor/Cultivation to choose humans over the native parshendi. Or why the parshendi didn't first go to Honor/cultivation before resorting to Odium... I think we have the answer to this too, which I'm planning on posting about some time or other soon. That being: the story of The Girl Who Looked Up. I think this basically describes humanity's change from Odium to Honor and the beginning of expansion throughout Roshar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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