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I have a feeling I'm going to get shot down quickly here, but I'm going to toss this idea out anyways.  Happy to be corrected but if you are going to do so at least share the Wob or Passage to tell me why - just don't tell me I'm wrong and walk away...

Generally people think the Highstorm is Honor's Shard pool and that Horneater peaks is Cultivation's.  But we were told Urithru was built in the mountains to be closer to Honor, and the Horneater Peaks shard pools is up in those mountains.

What if Horneater peaks is actually Honors, and is thus closer to Urithru, and the Highstorm, is just the Stormfathers moving wall of Investiture now that Honor is broken?  This would leave Origin to be Cultivations Shardpool - which sounds backwards since "highstorms originate there" but we know that's not realistically true because Brandon has said the Highstorm just keeps circling the the planet. So while humans see it originating from the east, it's actually just crossing the ocean from the west.

Second since Honor and Cultivation are in this together, Cultivation shares her Investiture with the Highstorm when it pass over her Shardpool at Origin for two purposes. To restrengthen it after being weakened by the Shin Mtns. But also to provide "mixed" Honor and Cultivation investiture across the world.  Since RK are product of both Shards, they might need both flows of investiture, so why not have a storm deliver both instead of just one?

Origin doesn't have to be origin of storms, could be origin of life, or something...

Anyways wanted to see what people think. Im sure plenty will tell me I'm just wrong. I'm not convinced this is "right" or Canon, more along the lines of I think most "believe Origin = Honor" but we dont have true canon to support it, just conjecture like above.  So truly looking for hard evidence that I'm wrong, or at a minimum to acknowledge that it's possible and we just don't know yet.

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Urithru is said to be west of Alethela (Silver Kingdom-era Alethkar). While the Horneater Peaks are west of Alethkar, they aren't that far west. Furthermore, after transporting to Urithru, the scholars decided that their location was close to the center of Roshar, close to Tu Bayla or Emul, with the latter being significantly further west than the Horneater Peaks. 

An assumption you seem to be making is that Urithru is in the same mountains that compose the Horneater Peaks. I can't recall anything which points towards that assumption however. 

There's also a WoB that Honor's perpendicularity moves, which indicates against it being the pool in the Horneater Peaks, and I believe there is confirmation that the pool in the Horneater Peaks is Cultivation's, but I'll have to check. Regardless of that WoB, I think it's more likely that the Horneater Peaks pool is of Cultivation.

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BRANDON SANDERSON

Okay, fine. Umm, at the end of Words of Radiance.

ARGENT

There has to be one there because Jasnah has to leave somehow, right?

BRANDON SANDERSON

Yes, but Honor’s Perpendicularity moves.

QUESTION

Woah...so...Highstorm?

BRANDON SANDERSON

[hems and haws]

QUESTION

So, I don’t know if this is a RAFO sort of question, but you call them Perpendicularities, will we see this sort of thing created?

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1 hour ago, Chinsukolo said:

 Since RK are product of both Shards, they might need both flows of investiture, so why not have a storm deliver both instead of just one?

Be careful, you're making another assumption. The spren which grant surgebinding powers to the KR are of both shards. It has not been stated that surgebinding is the manifestation of Honor and Cultivation's investiture.

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Cool - thank you.  Tracking I was making assumptions, and I was definitely going down the rabbit holes on idea progression.  But like i mentioned I was after hard info that I was wrong, and you provided.  So thanks, because i was really after confirmation of one way or another, or confirmation that we just didn't know.

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This might sound crazy but hear me out:  could the origin really mean the origin of voidbringers?  My random off the top of the head theory that came to life about 30 seconds ago is this:  could the "origin" be where this [spoilers] bridge from edgedancer that nale talks about lands on Roshar?

 

damnation mobile I can never get the spoiler tags to work

 

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