A theory on recreating Adonalsium

[Staphylococcus she/her]

This is all purely hypothetical and just for fun/an excuse for me to procrastinate.

So, when Ati and Vin died and a person who had just enough of Preservation and Ruin in them (Sazed) was present, he was able to take up both shards. Would it, just hypothetically, be possible to take ALL THE SHARDS if the vessels were all killed at the same time/gave their power up (I read somewhere this is possible, don't have the WoB right now, might look for it later) and a suitable "host" was present, thus, basically, recreating Adonalsium???

Or alternatively to go and collect the powers of the shards one after another?

This is just something I thought of and would like to read people's ideas and opinions on.

[Djarskublar he/him]

Short answer, maybe, but will probably never happen. It is a topic brought up extremely often. The only part of the usual fare is that you didn't suggest is that Hoid would be the one doing it. I personally don't think he even wants Mr A back together. As far as I can tell, there isn't anyone that we have seen so far that has the slightest interest in the recreation of Adonalsium. Besides that, you would have to go through a LOT of Shards that don't want to give up their power, who acquired it in the first place by killing Adonalsium. So yeah, it might be possible, but I am extremely doubtful that it ever will.

I am not even convinced that it's possible since I haven't seen any really good arguments for it, even with how often it is brought up.

[Staphylococcus she/her]

@Djarskublar I didn't know it was brought up EXTREMELY OFTEN, I've never noticed it, here, or anywhere else, and since most theories have already been thought of...well...sorry for posting?

Also, I'm not saying that this is something that will/should happen, actually, I have a feeling that Hoid wants the exact opposite - for the shards to stay as they are - but again, this is just my personal feeling, I don't really think it will happen either. It's just something I thought of as a possibility, since the whole idea of shards, investiture is so complex, it's just fun to think about various things that could happen .

[ZenBossanova]

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One related thing I have pondered, would it be possible for 2 different shards, to share their investiture and powers? 

For instance, what if Cultivatation and Endowment each wanted some of each other's powers, so they each gave each other equal sized parts of their shards? 

Edited June 10, 2017 by ZenBossanova

[Staphylococcus she/her]

3 minutes ago, ZenBossanova said:

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One related thing I have pondered, would it be possible for 2 different shards, to share their investiture and powers? 

For instance, what if Cultivatation and Endowment each wanted some of each other's powers, so they each gave each other equal sized parts of their shards? 

 

Cool idea!

Well, since some of the Shards voluntarily gave up some of their power to the people on their planet (Leras, Edgli) or to create something (Tanavast - Heralds, Rayse - voidspren) I think it would be possible to exchange bits of the power too. 

[Djarskublar he/him]

Eh... It's just the most commonly posted theory. It shows up at least once every couple months, I swear... I guess that means it's a good idea at first glance. There just aren't any good reasons to think it actually will happen, and several to think it won't. I certainly don't condemn anyone for posting it, since it shows they are at least thinking. I just like to redirect that thought away from the same ruts.

As for trading around power, that is a thought. I don't think it will happen either, but it is at least more likely. I can at least imagine scenarios where it could happen in the current state of things.

[nervousnerd he/him]

15 hours ago, Staphylococcus said:

@Djarskublar I didn't know it was brought up EXTREMELY OFTEN, I've never noticed it, here, or anywhere else, and since most theories have already been thought of...well...sorry for posting?

Also, I'm not saying that this is something that will/should happen, actually, I have a feeling that Hoid wants the exact opposite - for the shards to stay as they are - but again, this is just my personal feeling, I don't really think it will happen either. It's just something I thought of as a possibility, since the whole idea of shards, investiture is so complex, it's just fun to think about various things that could happen .

Hoid almost certainly does not want all the shards to stay as they are. He is actively working against Odium and possibly Autonomy. He may not be working to reforge Adonalsium but I also don't see it likely that he wants to keep everything as it is; otherwise, what is the purpose of his missions? At the very least, Odium is too dangerous a shard for anyone to hold.

[Staphylococcus she/her]

1 hour ago, nervousnerd said:

Hoid almost certainly does not want all the shards to stay as they are. He is actively working against Odium and possibly Autonomy. He may not be working to reforge Adonalsium but I also don't see it likely that he wants to keep everything as it is; otherwise, what is the purpose of his missions? At the very least, Odium is too dangerous a shard for anyone to hold.

Eh, I didn't express myself correctly: I meant as they are as in separate, not as they are - wreaking havoc in the Cosmere. I think it was even written in SA, in the letter from Frost to Hoid that Hoid is trying to interfere with what Autonomy and Odium are doing.