Moogle Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 I was taking a look at all the art that Isaac Stewart did for the Way of Kings, and I found this. If you compare the three Honorblades at the bottom with the Surgebinding chart, you'll notice that the three Honorblades shown correspond to Jezrien, Nalan, and Chach (maybe?). So: does anyone know when we saw this Honorblade artwork in the actual novel? Did we? Can we use it to support theories about Szeth having Jezrien's Honorblade and Nalan going back for his? What's up with Chach? If anyone has ideas/theories on this, let me know!
Shardlet he/him Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) The one which corresponds to Jezrien was embossed onto the front cover of the US hardcover. You'll also notice that the guard of each sword corresponds to one of the KR order symbols. Edit: Although, looking at it again, the first one definitely corresponds to the windrunner symbol, but it is difficult to determine which order, the second and third sword correspond to. Although it appears the correspondence you indicated to Nalan and Chach seem best. Edit 2: I don't recall seeing the other two anywhere in WoK. Edited February 5, 2014 by Shardlet
Moogle Posted February 5, 2014 Author Posted February 5, 2014 The one which corresponds to Jezrien was embossed onto the front cover of the US hardcover. You'll also notice that the guard of each sword corresponds to one of the KR order symbols. Oh, right, I forgot about Jezrien's. I suppose Shallash's will be on Words of Radiance. Do you know if the other two swords he did appeared anywhere? As to the guards being the same as the KR order symbols, that's what I used to identify Nalan's. Chach's, though, is not quite the same and so I am uncertain if it was actually his or if it was just old concept art.
Shardlet he/him Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 Oh, right, I forgot about Jezrien's. I suppose Shallash's will be on Words of Radiance. Do you know if the other two swords he did appeared anywhere? As to the guards being the same as the KR order symbols, that's what I used to identify Nalan's. Chach's, though, is not quite the same and so I am uncertain if it was actually his or if it was just old concept art. The other two were not there as I recall. You may be right about the concept art idea. The other two share similar qualities with the Chach and Nalan symbols. They feel like they match, but they don't quite.
Chrono she/her Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 They are in the Way of Kings. Take a look at the beginning of each part. There's a page with the part name, the list of character VPs that are in that part, and a picture of a sword. Part Three, "Dying" has Chach's sword (may be wrong name). Nalan's sword (again, may be wrong) is on "The Illuminating Storms" page. The other three just have Jezrien's blade. Hope this helps! 1
Moogle Posted February 5, 2014 Author Posted February 5, 2014 They are in the Way of Kings. Take a look at the beginning of each part. There's a page with the part name, the list of character VPs that are in that part, and a picture of a sword. Part Three, "Dying" has Chach's sword (may be wrong name). Nalan's sword (again, may be wrong) is on "The Illuminating Storms" page. The other three just have Jezrien's blade. Hope this helps! That does help! I suppose we can guess that the swords relate to the themes of each part as a whole, and that "Dying" relates to Bravery/Obedience, while "The Illuminating Storms" deals with Justice and the like. Thanks for noticing that.
Alice Rose she/her Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 In my book they appear at the parts: Part 1 = 1st blade, Kaladin and Shallan, Above silence Part 2 = 2nd blade, Dalinar, Kaladin, and Adolin, The Illuminating Storms Part 3 = 3rd blade, Kaladin, and Shallan, Dying Part 4 = 2nd blade, Dalinar, Kaladin, Adolin, and Navani, The Storms Illumination Part 5 = 3rd blade, Shallan, Dalinar, Kaladin, Szeth, and Wit, The silence above Each part corresponds to one of the lines in the poem (auto correct on my phone won't let me use the right word!) in the back. And the blades repeat with the repeated phrases thus, if you are right about whose blade is whose then I believe Jezrian = Above Silence, The Silence Above Nalan = The Illuminating Storms, Storms Illumination Chach = Dying No clue what this tells us though. 2
Mysty she/her Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 The names of the parts of the book make a ketek poem?!? That is so awesome! I never noticed that before. So what does it mean? Above silence/the illuminating storms/dying/storms illumination/the silence above
Chrono she/her Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 There is the page right before the Ars Arcanum that is from the "Head of His Majesty's Silent Gatherers". Apparently, this poem was uttered by an illiterate dying Herdazian in a language he didn't even speak all that well. The guy who wrote the paper is just as clueless as we are, though he does say something to the effect of "We leave it to His Majesty mind on a strong day to decipher what this means." An interesting note.
Duskshard he/him Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 Did anyone else also notice the creatures on the chart look like that creature Darkness used to drain Lift of her stormlight. I wonder what connection they have to Surgebinders that they'd be on the chart. Probably just that they can nullify their abilities, but maybe it's something more.
Awesomeness Summoned he/him Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 It's also interesting that they are eating/clawing Ishar and Palah's glyphs.
Mysty she/her Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 There is the page right before the Ars Arcanum that is from the "Head of His Majesty's Silent Gatherers". Apparently, this poem was uttered by an illiterate dying Herdazian in a language he didn't even speak all that well. The guy who wrote the paper is just as clueless as we are, though he does say something to the effect of "We leave it to His Majesty mind on a strong day to decipher what this means." An interesting note. Thanks for pointing out that it is the same ketek poem, with proper grammer it makes some sense, although I could be strecthing things a bit. Above silence, the illuminating storms--dying storms--illuminate the silence above It may be about how the Almighty is dead, or whoever stormface is that Kaladin saw. The Almighty is often refered to as being "above". Highstorms leave stormlight, used for illumination. The last bit may refer to Dalinars visions, he is enlightened that the Almighty was dead and silent. I probably have some holes in my logic, after all, I don't have the intellect of Mr T on his good days. 1
Moogle Posted February 6, 2014 Author Posted February 6, 2014 It's also interesting that they are eating/clawing Ishar and Palah's glyphs. According to various bits in the book, the two glyphs in the middle of the Eye of the Almighty represent plants and animals. I wonder why those two Orders are special? Maybe they're pure Honor and pure Cultivation? 1
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