Ecthelion III he/him Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 Different spren bond differently. This wasn't actually the answer to the question which was asked, but we can derive it. Quote Can an Awakened form a nahel bond with a spren on Roshar? Depends on the spren! Past Entries (spoilered for size): Spoiler #3: Shardic Contact with Other Planets #2: Hemalurgy and Talking to the Dead #1: Hoid is Immortal
Shlee Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 To be fair, that's also a really vague question. I read this one as minor spren CAN bond, but the result isn't the same as a Nahel bond that grants surges: Quote INTERVIEW: Mar 24th, 2014 Fantasy Faction Interview: Brandon Sanderson Stormlight Interview (Verbatim) QUESTION Could any type of spren bond with a person (even if the results wouldn't be a Knight Radiant)? Or only the ones associated with a branch of the Knights? BRANDON SANDERSON Ooh, that's an excellent question. This is something theoretically possible for a lesser spren to achieve. Soooooo no, you probably couldn't with a flamespren, a lifespren, a windspren, or an awespren, but with an Honorspren, or a Cultivationspren, Highspren or an Inkspren, why not?
Spoolofwhool Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 What does it mean by Awakened? Any Awakened object or sentient biochromatic entities?
Djarskublar he/him Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 I assume they meant Returned, which is interesting in it's own way, since they are Cognitive shadows.
Spoolofwhool Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 That makes sense. I just had another thought actually regarding the Divine Breaths are splinters conundrum. Fairly unrelated. Anyhow. We know that something can be both a cognitive shadow and a splinter, as that essentially seems to be what the Stormfather is. As such, I'm guessing that Returned are the same, where the Divine Breath is merged with their cognitive shadow to hold it into their body. As such the Divine Breath is a splinter, and therefore sentient, by virtue of the fact that it is also a sapient cognitive shadow. If this is the case, then maybe the idea of Vasher being bonded to his Divine Breath to gain abilities on Roshar doesn't actually work, so he needs some other way to gain stormlight.
Yata he/him Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Spoolofwhool said: As such, I'm guessing that Returned are the same, where the Divine Breath is merged with their cognitive shadow to hold it into their body. As such the Divine Breath is a splinter, and therefore sentient, by virtue of the fact that it is also a sapient cognitive shadow. If this is the case, then maybe the idea of Vasher being bonded to his Divine Breath to gain abilities on Roshar doesn't actually work, so he needs some other way to gain stormlight. I don't think that the Divine Breath "merged" with the Shadow (as "they are a unique being now") but more that the Divine Breath is simply bonded with the Cognitive Shadow and works as tie to the physical realm. We see the Returned may give it away quite easily. I don't think Stormfather may be divided without some serious effort. In the end I see the Returned as "anti-radiant". If a RK the Human works as anchor to the Splinter in the Physical Realm, in a Returned the Splinter works as anchor to the Human-like being in the physical realm 1
Djarskublar he/him Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 The fact remains that Vasher apparently can bond a spren. That is highly interesting. I love the idea of him sucking in some Stormlight and surgebinding something. If he could choose knowing what surges he would get, my bet would be he would go for Elsecaller or Lightweaver. Cuz Soulcasting is interesting for him.
emailanimal he/him Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 14 hours ago, Djarskublar said: The fact remains that Vasher apparently can bond a spren So can chasmfiends. Note that there is no evidence that the Heralds (Roshar analogs for what Vasher is) ever bonded the "traditional" spren, although what exactly their HonorBlades are remains to be discovered. At the same time, perhaps we can figure this one out. Vasher and, e.g., Nalan are both Cognitive Shadows. Nightblood was made to mimic Honorblades (or, to be more exact, Shardblades, that were, in turn mimicking Honorblades). Honorblades suck in Stormlight, just as Nightblood eats Breaths (and looks like any other type of Investiture).
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