1stBondsmith he/him Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 With all the discussions about the Surgebinding charts that are the Front and Back leaf drawings, I have a burning question. Why are the Bondsmiths and Truthwatchers so set apart in both charts. Early on I thought this was artistic backdrops, but knowing what we do now, here are some observations and questions: In the "Physical Chart" (I like the Theory), The two orders are inverted in the otherwise symmetrical pattern They are also the only orders that have the creatures' jaws and claws making any interaction with the sphere glyphs. The rest are all on the outer shells, no overlap. in the "Cognitive Chart", the two orders are very exclusive. They are obviously the only ones inside the store infused with stormlight. They are also the only ones with lightning (blue and purple) coming to or from them an are intentionally interwoven. They also notibly have no other surge connections to them, which is unlike the other 8. The other orders are all outside this in the misty clouds. My soft theory (because there is no other proof yet) is that the other orders are not seen by the spren in Shadesmar. This is why they lose their memories today when they bond a human, and have to slowly rebuild it. Bondsmiths and Truthwatchers get fully cognizant spren. Also there is some interplay of power or investiture available between these that is too vague for me to speculate details. Any good thoughts? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marianmi Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 My initial theory was that all spren were Honor+Cultivation except those 2 - one was 100% Honor and the other was 100% Cultivation. However, I don't think this anymore "Losing memory" is because the KR spren transitions from the cognitive realm to the physical real. Stormfather even after bonding with Dalinar did not leave Shadesmar. Probably only Bondsmiths can create this type of bond, although I don't think this is a rule (Cusicesh probably bonded a Bondsmith and probably went to physical) but only something Stormfather did to protect himself - because I also think The Rider of Storms was probably bonded with a Bondsmith, and survived the Recreance only because of Tanavast's Shadow, but this is another discussion. But since I also like the Physical/Cognitive Chart theory, and since when using their powers KR get to glimpse the cognitive real (even Kaladin could see the "distant sun"), maybe Bondsmiths and Truthwatchers get to glimpse the Spiritual realm. Maybe this is why Stormfather can bond with Dalinar while remaining in Shadesmar, and Truthwatchers get to "see" the future - because the bond is tied to the spiritual realm. And maybe the Spiritual Chart has only 4 surges, one of them being "Vision" connected to the Truthwatcher symbol. But that's a lot of maybes and we don't know much about the spiritual realm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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