World of Warcraft

[leinton]

Yes, but most of the glyphs, no matter what type, won't change your rotation. The only exception I've seen to that rule is the Frostfire glyph, and that's just so they can still have a Frostfire spec for mages. Also, it's prime glyphs that boost damage.

Quote from Ghostcrawler:

We don't want glyphs to change rotations. We feel that was a mistake in LK.

[Munin he/him]

Personally, I'm still disappointed by Heroic Leap. It's so redundant as to be comical.

[KChan she/her]

Never mind the fact that some players like customizing their gameplay. To mandate rotations is to force every player of every spec to use the exact same rotation, totally negating things like individual play style, player skill, and so on.

Thanks, Blizzard. You just made the game a lot more boring for me.

[leinton]

When I get bored of rotations, I pvp for a while. It's very very hard to get a specific rotation when people are blasting you and stunning you and all that jazz.

On the other hand, it's nice that the "rotations" in WoW are become more of "priority lists."

[Munin he/him]

Never mind the fact that some players like customizing their gameplay. To mandate rotations is to force every player of every spec to use the exact same rotation, totally negating things like individual play style, player skill, and so on.

Thanks, Blizzard. You just made the game a lot more boring for me.

...It's always been like that, though. There's always been a "best" rotation for every spec.

[KChan she/her]

Perhaps, but that's based on the opinion of the player base. It's different from Blizzard telling you, "you absolutely have to do it this way to play your class correctly," which is what the Eclipse system seems (in my opinion) to be trying to do. Perhaps I'll adjust to it when Cat comes out, but half the fun of the game for me is figuring out a rotation that suits me and my play own play style the best, not going onto wowwiki to see what everyone else does. And judging by my DPS output, it's worked pretty well so far.

[Munin he/him]

Perhaps, but that's based on the opinion of the player base. It's different from Blizzard telling you, "you absolutely have to do it this way to play your class correctly," which is what the Eclipse system seems (in my opinion) to be trying to do. Perhaps I'll adjust to it when Cat comes out, but half the fun of the game for me is figuring out a rotation that suits me and my play own play style the best, not going onto wowwiki to see what everyone else does. And judging by my DPS output, it's worked pretty well so far.

I actually disagree here.

Blizzard has indirectly told every player how to DPS.

Well, not told them how, but set up an efficient rotation. As a DK, you can make up your own rotation, but your runes will be all over the place unless you use them in a specific order, and only dump your runic power at specific times. As a prot warrior, if you don't follow the priority system, your threat output will suffer. As a hunter, if you use the wrong shot at the wrong time, you'll do less damage. If an Arms warrior refreshes Rend at the wrong time, he loses an Overpower proc.

I don't deny that it's possible to freestyle it a bit and still get good results. But the fact is that there's always a mathematically superior option (although that can vary for some specs based on gear).

They're not trying to make every rotation viable. They're trying to make every spec viable.

[KChan she/her]

And I don't want them to make every rotation viable. Like I said, part of the fun is figuring out what works. And making every spec viable is possible without a system that literally tells you when to cast which spell.

[leinton]

That last bit is kind of annoying. I hope you can turn stuff like that off... I mean, I like it obvious when a proc happens, but I really don't like the spells I'm supposed to use lighting up. It's nice for a beginner, but you're only a beginner for so long.

One nice thing about eclipse is that you get eclipse faster with crits, and lose it faster with crits. So, you can't time how long you're going have the buff. It feels less... rotational.

[KChan she/her]

Oh, well that's good at least. A little responsive gameplay will help break the formulaic feeling I've been getting from reviews of the Eclipse system.

[toa knopa he/him]

i LOVE WORLD OF WARCRAFT io play a 80 warrior named knopa who is my main toon and i play him the most on galakrond and a death knight named vezon on sisters of elune both are allies i have no real horde toon uh im on most all the time and come and say hi if you wish O.o

i do play a privet server sometimes

[toa knopa he/him]

everyone the cata. pre launch events have started on WOW i hope your ready to reset your talents and learn some stuff oh find a reforgeing npc and get your stuff reforged with new stats and the pre launch quests sould start soon

[leinton]

It is wonderful playing this content while it is less... buggy. Also, reforging is AWESOME.

[Munin he/him]

Well, with the nerfs to tank AoE, my Challenging Shout button is definitely seeing a lot more use.

Also my raid icon hotkeys.

[Rubix he/him]

Holy Scroll of (Thread) Resurrection, Batman!

The person getting rezzed gets:

One character boosted to level 80

FREE upgrade to Cataclysm

7 FREE days of game time

FREE character move to your friend's realm and faction so you can play together.

So on top of the normal 7 days, you get a major level boost (complete with mounts, the appropriate skillz, a full spec, and a green armor set to get you going), if you're still running Vanilla, you get three expansions free, and a free realm transfer.

Pretty good deal, if you ask me.

In other news, does anyone want to rez me?