Shardbearer he/him Posted November 28, 2015 Posted November 28, 2015 Nahel Spren do seem to be more powerful than Honorblades. They can shapeshift, and seem to grant better Stormlight use than Honorblades do. However, Heralds do seem to have other powers as well. They're functionally immortal, and we see Taln display crazy fast reaction time when a dart is blown at him.
Yata he/him Posted November 28, 2015 Posted November 28, 2015 Nahel Spren do seem to be more powerful than Honorblades. They can shapeshift, and seem to grant better Stormlight use than Honorblades do. However, Heralds do seem to have other powers as well. They're functionally immortal, and we see Taln display crazy fast reaction time when a dart is blown at him. Well the Honorblade as a weapon is more power than a Sprenblade. We see how Szeth may destroy with it a Shardplate with less hit while a Sprenblade need more hit. The Nahel Bond seems to me something more flexible and "cheap" maybe made to protect a "weak human". The Honorblade Bond seems to be only about "raw power" maybe because the "Superhumanity of the Herald". Now that I think about, we never saw an Herald drawn in Stormlight from an outside source. It's possible that they had some "Stormlight generation" method ?
Oversleep Posted November 28, 2015 Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) In the Prelude to Stormlight Archive it's stated that 'these Blades had power exceeding even Shardblades'. But I think it's referring the fact that Honorblades grant Surgebinding on its own and no restriction with being bound with oaths (but it doesn't change much for Heralds, since they're like Ideals personified...or are they?), while Shardblades on its own doesn't grant Surgebinding, it's the Surgebinder who has access both to the Surges and the Blade.On the other hand, a full Radiant gains also Shardplate and is more efficient with use of Stormlight. There is no evidence for Heralds having Shardplate... and man, it would be so usefull for them, with all these slaying dark gods, fighting beasts of living stone, opponents literally shooting lightnings and Almighty knows what else... Edited November 28, 2015 by Oversleep
CthulhuSpren Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) In terms of pure power levels and stormlight efficiency Radiant could have an upper hand, but Heralds have literally thousands of years of expierience and it's not impossible that they can have other powers. Question about this and Heralds being native to Roshar were RAFO'd. Do you not think that a herald would have some form of connection to their respective honourblade, creating a similar or more powerful being than a 5-oath radiant? Or that the heralds have some sort of inherent power, which makes up for the inefficiencies provided by the honourblade? Also, do you need to physically wield the honourblade to gain the surgebinding, or do you just have to be bonded?: following this, have we seen nalan or any of the other heralds use stormlight without their Blades? Edited November 29, 2015 by CthulhuSpren
Oversleep Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 Do you not think that a herald would have some form of connection to their respective honourblade, creating a similar or more powerful being than a 5-oath radiant? Or that the heralds have some sort of inherent power, which makes up for the inefficiencies provided by the honourblade? Also, do you need to physically wield the honourblade to gain the surgebinding, or do you just have to be bonded?: following this, have we seen nalan or any of the other heralds use stormlight without their Blades? You have to be the current wielder of the Blade, you don't have to have it summoned to your hand. Szeth dismissed the Blade when he massacred those people in WoK by Lashing them in every direction. If he could do that with a few years of experience with the Honorblade, Heralds definitely could also. Taravangian lied to Szeth that "one of the remaining seven Blades was stolen". Taln had one, Szeth had one. That means that Stone Shamans should have 8 Blades left, but if they had only 7 left, it means that Darkness reclaimed his own some time ago. For the connection to the Blades... well, after a so many thousands of years Heralds probably become so good with the use of the Blades that their Stormlight inefficiency means little.
Shardbearer he/him Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 It's possible that Szeth's inefficiency with Stormlight is because he is using an Honorblade but is not a Herald. Heralds may have much better Stormlight efficiency. Also, I don't think we ever see a Herald using Stormlight without an Honorblade.
CthulhuSpren Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 hopefully we will see nale use his (if he has his) in oathbringer
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