Kandra and spren

[signspace13 he/him]

This is a theory that is based on the parshendi and parshmen and the way that parshmen man bond common spren to become parshendi. Now we know that a mist wraith becomes a kandra because of hemalurgy and there is a word of Brandon saying a parshmen could do something similar. So what about the other way, could a mist wraith somehow bond a spren and become a kandra, or a hemalurgicly charged kandra bond a spren (Luke creation spren or glory spren, weaker emotion spren aswell) and the no longer need it's spikes?

[Yata he/him]

The only difference between a Mistwraith and a Kandra is their Intellect.

In a WoB the mistwraith are descibed as "twisted humans with a block on the cognitive realm" the Hemalurgy help to jump this block.

My Thought:

It's theoretical possible to create "something like a kandra" without the Hemalurgy, giving them some form of Investiture. The Breath is the more easy (but I don't know how many breaths).

With the "bonding spren" I think that are very very hard. Because naturally there is no way to bond with a lesser spren as far as we know (or at least the only that come to mind it's using the Hemalurgy ) some Roshar's liveform seems to be capable of this feat. But probably is the resoult of an envirorment where the "bond" are easy and the gain is huge. The Evolution choose this way on Roshar.

With a Radiant Spren I can't see what in a Mistwraith may attract a Radiant Spren.

 

But the whole thing is quite fascinating 

[signspace13 he/him]

The only difference between a Mistwraith and a Kandra is their Intellect.

In a WoB the mistwraith are descibed as "twisted humans with a block on the cognitive realm" the Hemalurgy help to jump this block.

My Thought:

It's theoretical possible to create "something like a kandra" without the Hemalurgy, giving them some form of Investiture. The Breath is the more easy (but I don't know how many breaths).

With the "bonding spren" I think that are very very hard. Because naturally there is no way to bond with a lesser spren as far as we know (or at least the only that come to mind it's using the Hemalurgy ) some Roshar's liveform seems to be capable of this feat. But probably is the resoult of an envirorment where the "bond" are easy and the gain is huge. The Evolution choose this way on Roshar.

With a Radiant Spren I can't see what in a Mistwraith may attract a Radiant Spren.

But the whole thing is quite fascinating

It is possible to bond lesser spren, the parshendi do it to get their forms.

[Yata he/him]

It is possible to bond lesser spren, the parshendi do it to get their forms.

Sure, but the Listener and the GreatShell seem to be "made" with the need of a Spren-Bond. Without they are like "a drab" they miss something of their spirit web.

My point was about the Roshar's lifeform evolved/created to could make Spren-Bond. We don't know how they do this bond. We don't know even if a Human (the bein most similar to a Mistwraith) may bond a Spren of his own will.

 

We will discover further when Rlain told us more about his people or when the Fabrial's creation will be explain.

 

PS: If a bond is granted through Hemalurgy, you lost if the spike is removed. The Spike is the junction between the spren and your spirit web.

[Ari he/him]

This is a theory that is based on the parshendi and parshmen and the way that parshmen man bond common spren to become parshendi. Now we know that a mist wraith becomes a kandra because of hemalurgy and there is a word of Brandon saying a parshmen could do something similar. So what about the other way, could a mist wraith somehow bond a spren and become a kandra, or a hemalurgicly charged kandra bond a spren (Luke creation spren or glory spren, weaker emotion spren aswell) and the no longer need it's spikes?

The trouble with this is, Hemalurgy can come pretty close to doing anything any other magic can do. We have no idea if a Spren bond is similar enough to human-attribute Hemalurgy to turn a mistwraith into a Kandra. I'm kinda guessing it isn't. That said, that doesn't mean there isn't any other way for Kandra to get the human attributes they need except via hemalurgy. It's entirely possible there's some investiture hackery that can be done, or that even something like endowing a mistwraith with breaths could awaken it into a Kandra.

[signspace13 he/him]

Sure, but the Listener and the GreatShell seem to be "made" with the need of a Spren-Bond. Without they are like "a drab" they miss something of their spirit web.

My point was about the Roshar's lifeform evolved/created to could make Spren-Bond. We don't know how they do this bond. We don't know even if a Human (the bein most similar to a Mistwraith) may bond a Spren of his own will.

We will discover further when Rlain told us more about his people or when the Fabrial's creation will be explain.

PS: If a bond is granted through Hemalurgy, you lost if the spike is removed. The Spike is the junction between the spren and your spirit web.

The mistwraiths were created to need a hemalurgic charge to become sentient, the parshmen were created to require a spren to give them a link to the cognitive realm. the spren perform the exact same function for the parshendi this bond the spren bind is different from the human bond, the spren isn't present in the bond as it acts as the cognitive entity for the parshendi. With humans the spren make fills a crack in the humans spirit Web and uses the humans cognitive entity to gain sentience in the physical realm, the parshendi do not require a spike to act as intermediary, so I doubt a wistwraith would either.

Edit: auto correct, again.

Edited October 18, 2015 by signspace13