blad3mast3r he/him Posted February 2, 2015 Posted February 2, 2015 Well, Shards are kinda like Spren. - you get power - they have a specific intent/ideals - they come from adonalsium. So- when Sazed picks up Ruin and Preservaition, they combine, to make Harmony. So if you bonded 2 spren, would they combine? 2
TheOneKEA Posted February 2, 2015 Posted February 2, 2015 There is WoB somewhere which says that it is difficult to bond 2 spren, especially if the spren are of different orders. However, Brandon did leave some wiggle room that suggests that it may be theoretically possible. 2
CHOUTAGOD he/him Posted February 2, 2015 Posted February 2, 2015 Hmmm... I guess it would depend on which type of spren. It never mentions Knights Radiant orders mixing spren, but then again it never says they didn't. Personally I think yes. I have nothing to back this up, but it would be Really cool. You already have a mix of Honor and Cultivation so other mixes aren't out of the question. Honorspren mixed with Cryptics would almost be a human wouldn't it? 3
blad3mast3r he/him Posted February 2, 2015 Author Posted February 2, 2015 no we have to think of a name for a surgebinder with 2 spren..... How about...... Twinbinder!
Savanorn he/him Posted February 2, 2015 Posted February 2, 2015 no we have to think of a name for a surgebinder with 2 spren..... How about...... Twinbinder! I prefer lunatic. 1
Patrick Star Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Obviously, Sanderson is easing Yugioh in to Roshar. 3
Savanorn he/him Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Obviously, Sanderson is easing Yugioh in to Roshar. I summon Preservation, IN DEFENCE MODE. 5
Patrick Star Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) I summon Preservation, IN DEFENCE MODE. I hear that it has a great flip effect! Almost as good as monster reborn! Also, I hear that Tanavest is a great level 4 monster card. It lets you summon investiture tokens each turn. Edited February 3, 2015 by Patrick Star 1
Wrath Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 I summon Preservation, IN DEFENCE MODE. Don't be ridiculous. Preservation is obviously a Trap Card. 2
Patrick Star Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Don't be ridiculous. Preservation is obviously a Trap Card. Don't forget the Highstorm spell card. It destroys an opponent's trap or spell card. If it's a spell card, you can special summon a monster in defense mode. If it's a trap card, you can summon a monster in attack mode. Very good card. 2
Blaze1616 he/him Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 I'm a little surprised we went to YuGiOh! before DragonBall Z... 2
Patrick Star Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 I'm a little surprised we went to YuGiOh! before DragonBall Z... I grew up on yugioh. Never got into Dragonball Z. Back in the GX days, I had a devastating quick-strike deck. Nobody that I knew could beat beat me. 2
tdogpete he/him Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 So, quick question, does this mean if a person had two spen it's possible they wouldn't bond? That they'd stay separate, and thus give multiple abilities/shardblades? 2
Wrath Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 So, quick question, does this mean if a person had two spen it's possible they wouldn't bond? That they'd stay separate, and thus give multiple abilities/shardblades? I'm pretty sure it's confirmed to be possible, but that you'd have to adhere to the oaths of two different Radiant Orders and therefore it's not particularly practical (especially if you were to bond a Highspren and an Honourspren, meaning you'd have to simultaneously do what's right regardless of the law and obey the law regardless of what is right). Seems like a bonding a Cryptic would be fairly possible for someone of a different Order, since they don't have oaths. But you still need to be the sort of person who would attract two different spren. 1
tdogpete he/him Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 So would they mesh into an entirely new type of spren? 1
blad3mast3r he/him Posted February 3, 2015 Author Posted February 3, 2015 possibly........ Honorcryptospren, anyone?
tdogpete he/him Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 I just think that if they did into form into one, would they have an entirely new set of oaths?
Patrick Star Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Brandon's talked a bit about bonding multiple spren. Basically, you would need to abide by BOTH sets of oaths. So, any radiant could bond with a cryptic in addition to their regular spren, as Lightweavers only have oaths (same goes for lightweavers bonding another order's spren). A windrunner could likely also be a bondsmith, but definitely not a dustbringer or skybreaker. Those three can't coexist, due to their oaths. The edgedancer and truthwatcher orders would likely be somewhat interchangeable with the other 7 as well.
Redbird he/him Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) So, any radiant could bond with a cryptic in addition to their regular spren, as Lightweavers only have oaths (same goes for lightweavers bonding another order's spren). A windrunner could likely also be a bondsmith, but definitely not a dustbringer or skybreaker. Do we know any of the dustbringer oaths yet? Or even anything about how their personalities tend to be? Edited February 3, 2015 by Redbird3000 1
Patrick Star Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Do we know any of the dustbringer oaths yet? Or even anything about how their personalities tend to be? I'm pretty sure Dustbringers are about destroying evil. So that wouldn't fit with skybreakers or windrunners. Skybreakers follow the law, and windrunners protect EVERYONE. You saw what happened with Syl in WoR... 1
tdogpete he/him Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Well, I wouldn't say everyone, as Syl remembers killing people in her past life (or whatever she was doing before she met Kaladin). Also, isn't the third wind runner oath something about protecting people I hate, as long as it's right? Destroying evil sounds like doing something right, or else the windrunners as a combat order would be functionally useless. 1
Patrick Star Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 @tdogpete If it's not attacking you, you can't kill it. If you're a windrunner. That's the point. Even if a guy is evil and/or severely broke the law, you can't kill him. 1
natc Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 But why "destroy evil"? We know from Warbreaker how much room that leaves for interpretation 1
Patrick Star Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 But why "destroy evil"? We know from Warbreaker how much room that leaves for interpretation It's not my theory. I'm not sure exactly who's it is. Either way, it's just an example of how some orders would have conflicting oaths that would prevent bonding a spren of each order. 1
KevinTheHerdazian he/him Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 @tdogpete If it's not attacking you, you can't kill it. If you're a windrunner. That's the point. Even if a guy is evil and/or severely broke the law, you can't kill him. He only has to protect as long as it is right. If it's not right to protect him then he can kill him. It is not right to protect evil (voidbringers) but since the listeners weren't voidbringers then it was different cuz they weren't evil yet so he was more reluctant to fight them except when protecting Dalinar. His second oath, I will protect those who cannot protect themselves, is very open to interpretation. One might think that nobody can protect themselves because they aren't radiants and they cannot protect themselves against him with much efficiency, but another might think that every one with a weapon can protect themselves since they pose a danger, a minimal danger, but a danger nonetheless.It's not right to attack someone whose is protecting their home so kal didn't like his men or him to fight the parshendi unless they were protecting one they were assigned to protect. but he didn't help the parshendi fight the alethi because it is not right to betray ones own country and countrymen. That's how I see it at least. 1
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