Turos Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 If the Dor is powering all of the magics on Sel, and Aona(Devotion) has one magic called AonDor, does Skye(Dominion) have a magic called SkyDor? 1
RawToast225 he/him Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 Isn't dominion the one who has the forgery power? 1
Mckeedee123 he/him Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 I'm pretty sure we call it FjorDor (what the Dakhor Monks do) but each Selian magic system is a mixed bag, Shardwise. 6
Ynax he/him Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 (edited) Isn't all the known to us magic systems on Sel of Devotion? Nevermind, Dakhor is possibly related to Dominion. Edited January 18, 2015 by Ynax 1
Mckeedee123 he/him Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 They're not completely either one. All of them draw from the energy of both Shards. 1
Ynax he/him Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 They're not completely either one. All of them draw from the energy of both Shards. But AonDor is more Devotion as Dakhor would be more Dominion? 1
gjustice99 she/her Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 (edited) If the Dor is powering all of the magics on Sel, and Aona(Devotion) has one magic called AonDor, does Skye(Dominion) have a magic called SkyDor? Wouldn't it be SkaiDor, as the name of that shardholder is Skai? Edited January 18, 2015 by gjustice99 1
Moogle Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 (edited) But AonDor is more Devotion as Dakhor would be more Dominion? We haven't the slightest idea. We know that all of the magic systems on Sel are in effect the "same system": Windrunner17 ()Why does Scadrial, which has two Shards, only have three manifestations of investiture, (Allomancy, Feruchemy, and Hemalurgy) but Sel, also with two Shards, has five manifestations of investiture (AonDor, Dakhor, ChayShan, Forgery, and Bloodsealing)? Brandon Sanderson Sel's magics are much more regionalized than Scadrial's. Each area has its own manifestation, but they're all actually the same magic. So really there is one magic on Sel—much as Windrunning and Lightweaving on Roshar are kind of different magics, but also kind of the same. (source) Each of the Radiant orders have different amounts of Cultivation/Honor for their spren, too. But then, Stormlight is presumably a constant mix of Shards (or one Shard, or Adonalsium), so you could say all of Surgebinding uses the same Shard. And everything on Sel apparently uses the Dor as a power source: QuestionMy question is kind of twofold. So the Emperor's Soul takes place on Sel. Is it's magic derived from the Dor? Brandon Sanderson Yes. (source) (Note: I am extrapolating this to mean every magic system on Sel uses the Dor.) Classification is hard. Edited January 18, 2015 by Moogle
Newan he/him Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) I have a working theory that, though Devotion was Aona's and Dominion was Skai's, they worked together to hold the power, which is why Devotion and Dominion like to work together and almost act like one they've pooled their power. One of the reasons for this is this:From the letter in Way of Kings: "In case you have turned a blind eye to that disaster, know that Aona and Skai are both dead, and that which they held has been Splintered." That which they held has been splintered. Singular. Now, this very well could be because using a plural there would sound awkward. But overthinking is fun, so make of it what you will. Edit: I asked him. He said that this was not a deliberate phrasing. He said that though they work together, the shards are still separate. Edited January 21, 2015 by Newan 1
Seana she/her Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 The shards basically held just two parts of one power, so the power of the Dor would be of both. That's my theory. 4
RawToast225 he/him Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 That's what Ruin and Preservation did. They had two different metal based powers that met up in Ferochemy. Good idea!
Turos Posted January 22, 2015 Author Posted January 22, 2015 Ooo! Replies! Sweet. I posted this before reading elsewhere about the Selian magics being all one thing. Still, where do the people of a planet come up with the names?
RawToast225 he/him Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 They come up with the names because of their planets individual history. Just as on Roshar with the worship of stone by the Shin or the worship of the water greatshells in one of those interludes.
Turos Posted January 22, 2015 Author Posted January 22, 2015 Then it sounds like people knew Aona, which is interesting. I wonder what relationship was there.
Oudeis he/him Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 Mistborn Well... no one on Scadrial seemed to know the name of Lerasium. Atium, presumably, was named by Rashek, implying he at some point met Ati/learned his name. From that, we can presume that since Aons were apparently named after Aona, and the Skaze were named after Skai, that the Arelish people who found Elantris and settled in that land learned of the human name of the shard Devotion at some point. This doesn't necessarily mean she hadn't yet been shattered by then; it's possible books or carvings left in Elantris named her. 3
natc Posted February 5, 2015 Posted February 5, 2015 Well, we've seen shards go from anywhere between popping in with the odd word or two at the back of someone's mind to carrying out entire (very awkward) conversations. It's possible the very first Sellish human created carried conversations with his/her creators and the names have passed down in distorted forms since. With the case of that mistborn spoiler above me I believe Sazed witnessed something about the two shards' history when he ascended, so maybe the power in the Well still recalled Ati's name after all this time? Especially as the seal on that very person, I'd think the name would be rooted rather deeply in Leras' mind when he gave up his consciousness.
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