Mistborn burning Corpates?

[owlmonster]

I know that Aether of Night is no longer canon, but the magic still is. So, do you think that a mistborn could burn Aether of Ferrous/Corpate metal? What would it do?

[Trusk'our he/him]

3 hours ago, owlmonster said:

I know that Aether of Night is no longer canon, but the magic still is. So, do you think that a mistborn could burn Aether of Ferrous/Corpate metal? What would it do?

That would likey not work, as metals with an Identity cannot be burned. 

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Such as Shardblade Spren, which lie in a similar position. 

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https://wob.coppermind.net/events/522-dragonsteel-2023/#e16250

Questioner

What would happen if a person from Scadrial were to try to burn a manifested metal from Roshar?

Brandon Sanderson

So you're meaning they're in Shadesmar, they manifest it, and they try to burn it, right?

Questioner

Say a Spren of a Radiant manifests as a bead of metal instead of a Shardblade?

Brandon Sanderson

You're not going to be able to burn that if it's something that's coming from a spren, because that's not going to be treated as a metal in your body. Like, those are God Metals, and that one is actually alive and awake and it's just not gonna work. There are ways, though, that you could make that work. So it's totally possible, but you're gonna need something that's not an alive spren that's manifest like that. You're gonna need some way to get access to some tanavastium or something like that that's not, like, some living being.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 04:21 PM by Trusk'our
Had time to add a WoB

[owlmonster]

Could they shave off a part of it? Or do you think that that would still not work?

[Trusk'our he/him]

2 hours ago, owlmonster said:

Could they shave off a part of it? Or do you think that that would still not work?

That's a good question. 

I think that they could do that and produce a metal they could burn, but it depends on which process it mirrors more-

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If the separated piece of corpate is like Shardplate, then it shouldn't work- it's physically separated, but it's still spiritually part of the corpate.

If it's like with Nightblood shearing off a chip of an Honorblade- which I think it would be given that a corpate is a single entity- then the removed piece is probably far enough removed it can be burned.

 

Edit: now that I'm able to sit down and go over some WoBs, even chipping a Shardblade might not be enough to burn the separated piece (as it's breaking process is closer to Plate). To me it sounds like you'd need to completely pulverize it and destroy it's previous Identity all together, or maybe you could burn it if you deliberately killed your Spren as a Radiant and willed their corpse into a nugget as you did so. Less sure about the latter.

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https://wob.coppermind.net/events/551-youtube-spoiler-stream-7/#e17099

Questioner

Why didn't Nightblood cause an explosion or chip the Honorblades while Szeth was fighting the Honorbearers?

Brandon Sanderson

Let's see if I can talk around, or if I just have to RAFO this. Part of this is awareness on Ishar's part of what happened. Part of this has to do with the same mechanics of why some of the first attempts Raoden made with AonDor were a little more explosive, reactive, than anticipated. And there's some other things happening behind the scenes.

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https://wob.coppermind.net/events/546-worldcon-2025/#e16909

FearTheOldBlood

I remember in another WoB you confirmed that the living nature of spren would make them unviable for Allomancy. So I was wondering, if a Radiant were to kill their spren--but will it into the shape of a spike beforehand, and use that spike for Hemalurgy, could the person who was spiked have a Connection established between them and a Vessel of Honor or Cultivation?

Brandon Sanderson

You horrible person. But this would work. Yeah, you're absolutely horrible, that would work. Remember that that's going to make a god metal spike and that's going to have some weird effects being a god metal, but yeah, that could work.

In relation to the corpate question, it still depends a lot on how their body is held together and whether it would hold onto their Investiture and Identity even if separated.

I'm now leaning more towards a corpate's splintered body not being Allomantically viable unless you jump through some hoops first.

 

Edited 21 hours ago by Trusk'our
Changed my stance after further research

[owlmonster]

Cool. I just find it fun to think about!

[Trusk'our he/him]

1 hour ago, owlmonster said:

Cool. I just find it fun to think about!

Same. I think you'll find lots of people here on the Shard that enjoy thinking about such things.

[earthexile]

You would have to do some kind of Aluminum Feruchemy trick for this, or at least it's the first things that comes to my mind for removing Identity from something. The question becomes, what process do we use to be able to apply that force to the metallic Aether?

If we can bring in off-world knowledge and powers, a copy of "Rhythm of War" sure would be a handy thing for a Scadrian to get their hands on. They were doing stuff with blanking Identity with sound.