Atheist Discussion Thread

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On 7/16/2026 at 10:58 AM, Usseewa said:

I've been like this for a bit.. where i sort of envy religious people. I'm trying to understand it... Sometimes I envy their belief in an afterlife (though also I believe spiritual nonreligious people can believe in one, too?), their hope... their love. By love I mean... sometimes it feels like .. like they have something to look to, to give them hope or make them feel loved or whatever. Hopefully I'm not misunderstanding idk.

It may seem this way superficially, but in truth, religion does not actually lead to happiness; there are plenty of religious people who are completely miserable.

It may be so that people today feel unhappy and dissatisfied with lives, but this has nothing to do with a lack of faith, or whatever, but with the objective conditions of society itself. 

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On 7/16/2026 at 9:58 AM, Usseewa said:

Sigh.

I've been listening to the radio at night sometimes to stay up and it's lot of it is religious and/or spiritual. Like, the people are and they talk about it and stuff.

I've been like this for a bit.. where i sort of envy religious people. I'm trying to understand it... Sometimes I envy their belief in an afterlife (though also I believe spiritual nonreligious people can believe in one, too?), their hope... their love. By love I mean... sometimes it feels like .. like they have something to look to, to give them hope or make them feel loved or whatever. Hopefully I'm not misunderstanding idk.

And last night part of the radio thing was someone basically talking about having a vision-esque of Jesus or smth, and feeling love and hope and all that... and other people too just ... idk. I feel stupid saying all this. Maybe I shouldn't be listening to this so much. There's probably other ways to feel happy tbh.. There are..

I struggle to know what I believe anymore and have a sense of my own self and my mind and ... like i was lying in bed and it was weird thinking of the concept of my self my life my body... idk i mainly exist looking at other people's lives. escapism, perhaps.

maybe I haven't found care or love or whatever th heck from peopel ... i mean saying that is stupid cuz i have... but idk. maybe they're up-playing it ... there seemed to be some proseletysing language on the radio... idk.

but like some people seem to use their faith to hold on through rough times, so what do i do?

my life just feels kinds meaningless. i wish i could believe in an afterlife tbh... or *anything* post-death... cuz maybe it'd give me hope.. of something better.. something that meant life doesnt just end..

i wish i could belive in spiritual stuff like some people I know... to find happiness or moments of joy to help with grief that i dont think ive ever felt.. yet..? my parents used to tell me that even when they died (i had... a fear of them dying ... it made me very sad when i was younger to think theyd be gone some day and id have to live without them and .. and like they were really the only people in my world pretty much.. so like yeh..) theyd still be with me and whatnot.. and stuff with next lives and stuff.. but i dont think ive ever believed in that, so it... idk. Maybe i did initially.. and it did make me happy-sad probably.... but idk.

maybe thats why people believe it anyway.

 

ado maybe its that im starting to wonder if im the one who's wrong, since it appears to me that.. pretty much everyone believes in something i dont- religion or spirituality or afterlife in general or the universe stuff, whatever that fits into ("it's a sign from the universe"), or ancestors, or paranormal (kinda spiritual tho?), or.. idk. Basically that's just spiritual and religious.

maybe too cuz the radio people keep saying contradicting political views to mine (ill try not to get into that cuz its against rules maybe). So like, ... idk but its also the only thing there. They talk of "me" (my views) as .. "we" talk of their's. Sigh.. Or maybe ive never been around people with mine. i mean.. i mean that differently and not as literally as it may seem.

i know (or think?) that spirituality and religion are different and probably some people here have beliefs i dont but.. idk. it doesnt rly matter tbh but idk....

i just grew up with all this.. sll this stuff snd i never told them i didnt believe it until like.. it took a while. st least for some of it ... and like for them its a normal part of life, they believe it they dont seem to question it and then i just silently dont hold that beliefs and.. i feel - felt, i guess - alone? i felt so long i was keeping a secret, had to pretend or smth ...

hopefully nothing i say here is hateful.. im not intending to be .. but tbh someone can be so without knowing any better snd then needs to educated..

but like i dont believe in anything. or maybe i do, who knows. maybe i believe in something so innately that it feels "real," which maybe is exactly how others feel?

and sometimes.. sometimes i find myself eithrr... like wanting to erite or make up storoes thst have beliefs i dont have .. badicaly like the fantasy genre sort of. in a way.

then i start hating on myself and accuse myself of wanting to create a religion.. sigh

or maybe i do, but in fiction.. and i cant separate that.

i dont know what i want anymore, but i envy certain aspects of religion. Maybe i just want to feel like my life has meaning. matters. that im not so alone.

 

edit: i was also.. basically raised by one to think that religion is bad (pretty much.. at leadt thsts what i got out of it) and now that its changing and im more curious.. more accepting... which is honestly probably a good think cuz like... you know... discrimination and stuff is bad... including for religion... i assume... so now ive also been questioned if im religious and like "its okay though! just not if you're __________, _________, etc. And not of you __________....".. and basically i still see it as not me and not sometihing i can do cuz ... yeah. uhm.

............

i dont think im religious tho.. dont think i could believ e in anything.

..

sigh i hate .. things.. myself .. i keep feeling like ehat i think of or want is morally wrong and is horrible ..

 

what i want or consider cuz idk what i want cuz i think everything except how i am now (whatever the heck that is..) is wrong...

 

edit2: idk maybe idk idk idk if idk why did i even erite this..

ado... now i js feel sick

Thank you for sharing.  I don't think anything you've said here is hateful at all.  You can't decide what you do or don't believe.  You're either convinced, or you're not.  

You're right, religion does offer a lot of benefits.  As you've described, it gives people something to cling to when things get rough.  The idea that there's something more out there that can give you hope, or that everything bad going on is happening for a purpose, is comforting.  I can't cite anything, but there are certainly cases out there where religion genuinely makes people feel happier.  It's understandable to crave that, even if you can't believe in the underlying ideals.  I've been lucky enough to not need that comfort much in my life, but I've still fallen victim to that mindset myself.  A year ago when I was having trouble finding a job, I couldn't help Pascal's-Wagering myself into praying for some good luck.  Just in case, right?  What's the harm?  

I hope you have the support with you in your life to lean on while you're feeling this way.  I hope you have people who don't make you feel alone.  

I'm not sure what else to say, but I'm happy to continue the conversation.  

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On 7/16/2026 at 8:58 AM, Usseewa said:

Sigh.

I've been listening to the radio at night sometimes to stay up and it's lot of it is religious and/or spiritual. Like, the people are and they talk about it and stuff.

I've been like this for a bit.. where i sort of envy religious people. I'm trying to understand it... Sometimes I envy their belief in an afterlife (though also I believe spiritual nonreligious people can believe in one, too?), their hope... their love. By love I mean... sometimes it feels like .. like they have something to look to, to give them hope or make them feel loved or whatever. Hopefully I'm not misunderstanding idk.

And last night part of the radio thing was someone basically talking about having a vision-esque of Jesus or smth, and feeling love and hope and all that... and other people too just ... idk. I feel stupid saying all this. Maybe I shouldn't be listening to this so much. There's probably other ways to feel happy tbh.. There are..

I struggle to know what I believe anymore and have a sense of my own self and my mind and ... like i was lying in bed and it was weird thinking of the concept of my self my life my body... idk i mainly exist looking at other people's lives. escapism, perhaps.

maybe I haven't found care or love or whatever th heck from peopel ... i mean saying that is stupid cuz i have... but idk. maybe they're up-playing it ... there seemed to be some proseletysing language on the radio... idk.

but like some people seem to use their faith to hold on through rough times, so what do i do?

my life just feels kinds meaningless. i wish i could believe in an afterlife tbh... or *anything* post-death... cuz maybe it'd give me hope.. of something better.. something that meant life doesnt just end..

i wish i could belive in spiritual stuff like some people I know... to find happiness or moments of joy to help with grief that i dont think ive ever felt.. yet..? my parents used to tell me that even when they died (i had... a fear of them dying ... it made me very sad when i was younger to think theyd be gone some day and id have to live without them and .. and like they were really the only people in my world pretty much.. so like yeh..) theyd still be with me and whatnot.. and stuff with next lives and stuff.. but i dont think ive ever believed in that, so it... idk. Maybe i did initially.. and it did make me happy-sad probably.... but idk.

maybe thats why people believe it anyway.

 

ado maybe its that im starting to wonder if im the one who's wrong, since it appears to me that.. pretty much everyone believes in something i dont- religion or spirituality or afterlife in general or the universe stuff, whatever that fits into ("it's a sign from the universe"), or ancestors, or paranormal (kinda spiritual tho?), or.. idk. Basically that's just spiritual and religious.

maybe too cuz the radio people keep saying contradicting political views to mine (ill try not to get into that cuz its against rules maybe). So like, ... idk but its also the only thing there. They talk of "me" (my views) as .. "we" talk of their's. Sigh.. Or maybe ive never been around people with mine. i mean.. i mean that differently and not as literally as it may seem.

i know (or think?) that spirituality and religion are different and probably some people here have beliefs i dont but.. idk. it doesnt rly matter tbh but idk....

i just grew up with all this.. sll this stuff snd i never told them i didnt believe it until like.. it took a while. st least for some of it ... and like for them its a normal part of life, they believe it they dont seem to question it and then i just silently dont hold that beliefs and.. i feel - felt, i guess - alone? i felt so long i was keeping a secret, had to pretend or smth ...

hopefully nothing i say here is hateful.. im not intending to be .. but tbh someone can be so without knowing any better snd then needs to educated..

but like i dont believe in anything. or maybe i do, who knows. maybe i believe in something so innately that it feels "real," which maybe is exactly how others feel?

and sometimes.. sometimes i find myself eithrr... like wanting to erite or make up storoes thst have beliefs i dont have .. badicaly like the fantasy genre sort of. in a way.

then i start hating on myself and accuse myself of wanting to create a religion.. sigh

or maybe i do, but in fiction.. and i cant separate that.

i dont know what i want anymore, but i envy certain aspects of religion. Maybe i just want to feel like my life has meaning. matters. that im not so alone.

 

edit: i was also.. basically raised by one to think that religion is bad (pretty much.. at leadt thsts what i got out of it) and now that its changing and im more curious.. more accepting... which is honestly probably a good think cuz like... you know... discrimination and stuff is bad... including for religion... i assume... so now ive also been questioned if im religious and like "its okay though! just not if you're __________, _________, etc. And not of you __________....".. and basically i still see it as not me and not sometihing i can do cuz ... yeah. uhm.

............

i dont think im religious tho.. dont think i could believ e in anything.

..

sigh i hate .. things.. myself .. i keep feeling like ehat i think of or want is morally wrong and is horrible ..

 

what i want or consider cuz idk what i want cuz i think everything except how i am now (whatever the heck that is..) is wrong...

 

edit2: idk maybe idk idk idk if idk why did i even erite this..

ado... now i js feel sick

I've been thinking about this for a while, but I haven't said anything because I wasn't entirely sure what to say, and I recognize that this thread isn't for me.

Spiritual experiences are life changing, glorious things, and I love them. I encourage you to seek them out if they call to you.

If you're interested I recommend reading from the scriptures(and I can suggest some good sections if you would like) and praying afterwards. It might seem odd at first, but it can be something as simple as this example from Alma 22:18

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18 O God, Aaron hath told me that there is a God; and if there is a God, and if thou art God, wilt thou make thyself known unto me, and I will give away all my sins to know thee...

 

[GG0z He/Him]

Hi! Can I join this?

My parents didn't really care about what I thought about religions, and I didn't feel like a god existed, so atheism

 

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4 hours ago, GG0z said:

Hi! Can I join this?

My parents didn't really care about what I thought about religions, and I didn't feel like a god existed, so atheism

 

ATHEISM

The religion of actually we don't like religions

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38 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

ATHEISM

The religion of actually we don't like religions

yes!

religions don't really make sense to me