Jo and the Bush all/any Posted January 10 Posted January 10 (edited) Day 3: A long for the Lost but not Forgotten <Callsign: Mauve Crocodile> A song echoed through the empty halls. A mournful rhythm that brought silence with it. Most who heard the song quieted, remembered fallen comrades, and went the other way. Those who had duties to perform, officially or not, knew to avoid the distractions. A threnody for the dead was not something to listened to while trying to perform dangerous tasks. The newborne shade of Adonalsium-will-be-Reborn-eventually floated through the halls in search of the strings playing it. He recognized the song, some vague still-human memories remembering it from his time at home. It felt nice. It made it hard to remember what he was supposed to be doing. But he knew it involved Zense. Zense the musician. So he followed the strings. He found Zense at one of the few starscapes in the SS TYRIAN. The man was standing, looking out into the chromatic infinite space beyond the ship, and strumming the 9 strings of a baliset. Adonalsium-will-be-Reborn-eventually stood and listened, unwilling to interrupt. He listened. It was hard to do anything but listen to a song performed this well. After several minutes of the song had passed, Zense slowly turned around, placing his back to the stars. There was a single tear beading in one eye, and a smile on his face as he made direct eye contact with Adonalsium-will-be-Reborn-Eventually. He continued to play, note after note, chord after chord filling the large room. A song of peace for the dead. Adonalsium-will-be-Reborn-Eventually stayed still and listened. He knew there was a task to perform, but this was a song of mourning for what had been lost to the Cosmere. This was a hymn to the Lost God. This was a threnody of Threnody, and he would not profane it through interruption. It was long hours before Zense finished the piece. One of the ancient masterworks that had predated the splintering of Ambition. It was not the oldest music in the Cosmere, there were Yolish and Rosharan songs that preceded it, but it was older than most. When Zense began to carefully pack away his instrument, Adonalsium-will-be-Reborn-Eventually gave him a small bow, then turned and walked out of the room. He could not kill this man tonight. Tin Capone would have to send another, some other day. ◇◀▶◇◀▶◇◀▶◇◀▶◇ <Callsign: Azure Mouse> The Saboteurs were being captured faster than he had ever imagined. His part, however small, in Sage Kangaroo's execution had granted him some protection from the mob. He didn't walk the ship looking for Saboteurs. They seemed to be doing an admirable job, so he was left to focus on his mission. They claimed Fuchsia was a Saboteur, but Jochen knew she would never betray the ship, so he remained loyal. He would get those Medallions back. He had already lost one to the kandra, so he knew he'd have to be more secretive when he retrieved this next one. Jochen snuck down the halls. Every time he heard footsteps, he ducked away. Avoiding the mob was even easier. They could be heard halfway across the ship. When he heard the sound of coins clinking, Jochen knew he was on the right track. He stalked after the likely coinshot, hallway after hallway, until they found their target. A shout, coins flying into a wall, barely slowed by flesh. Jochen hid in a storage locker until the coinshot had left. He slipped out, using his new admin powers to erase any record of his presence. He walked over to the corpse, flinching at the mess. He rifled through Klin’s pockets, trying not to puke. Finally, he found the Medallion. He hid it down his boot, then ran away. Trusted or not, he didn't want to be caught with a body. ◇◀▶◇◀▶◇◀▶◇◀▶◇ <Callsign: Coral Swan> The Mysterious Being who had stolen Coral Swan’s mask was burning their last scrap of Tin inside the Comms Center when they heard footsteps approaching. Someone was coming. Hurriedly, they uploaded one last message to be broadcast to the ship, then wiped the evidence of their infiltration and headed out the door. The fate of the TYRIAN is Doom. There is no escape. In all my calculations, this singular product has remained static. By all foreseeable outcomes, our fate is sealed. No matter how many monsters we kill, our engines will still fail. No matter how many we rally, the Koloss will still reach us. And when they do, they will kill us. So why do we fight? Why do we try? It is a question I have asked myself, again and again, on this voyage. I feel as though the answer hangs, trembling, just out of reach of my hands, ever elusive. I cannot see it. But there is one thing this voyage has taught me. One thing this crew has taught me. To be human is to try. To look inevitability in the face, and defy. We do not need concrete truth to act. Muscles are not moved by contemplation. They are moved by will. And is there anything so inherently, so purely human? This is my message: try. Kill every monster. Rally every man and woman and person on this ship. And when inevitability comes to damn us... defy. It is all we can do. It is all we must do. I... have never felt so human. ◇◀▶◇◀▶◇◀▶◇◀▶◇ <Callsign: Turquoise Gorilla> The Security Chief stepped into the Comms Center, once staffed by Coral Swan, and now staffed by none. She was going to miss that man. Swan had been a good friend. And now someone had gone and stolen his mask and was using it to send strange messages. She strolled around the room for a little bit, examining the various terminals, looking for any sign of just who had been in here, but saw nothing obvious. It required Allomantic Tin to work, and to her knowledge, there was no one left on the ship who had it save for a very few trustworthy Fullborn like herself. Probably, it was one of Joachin’s stolen medallions. She stoked her own tin inside herself, activating the computers, then typed in the necessary codes to shut down the Comms. They were in an emergency, and needed everything to be viewed publicly. ◇◀▶◇◀▶◇◀▶◇◀▶◇ Sapphire Elephant was killed! They were a Loyalist Mistborn! Mint Heron was attacked by a Saboteur! They survived! There are no Living Tineyes. PM's are closed this cycle. This turn will end on Monday the 12th of January, normal space time. PLAYER LIST: Violet Axolotl: Fletcher (Past Lives) Taupe Gecko: H.E.A.R.T.H. (Past Lives) Sunburst Toucan: Ophelia Desci (Forgetful) Scarlet Octopus: Chiji Kaido (Silverist) Sapphire Elephant: Loyalist Mistborn Salmon Meerkat: Dugh Thomas (Arrogant) Sage Kangaroo: Saboteur kandra meal Saffron Iguana: Saboteur Kandra Quartz Zebra: Finch (Tinkerer) Plum Rhinoceros: Art (Stowaway) Pearl Chameleon: Crank (Past Lives, Literally) Oxblood Beagle: Levin (Past Lives) Opal Lion: Dusk (Silverlight Scholar) Onyx Flamingo: Frisk (Past Lives) Mint Heron: Zense (Ship's Musician) Melon Dingo: Stormseeker the Wise (Returned) Mauve Crocodile: Saboteur Rioter Magenta Albatross: Rane Cauthon (Gambler) Ivory Dragonfly: Echo (Echo) Indigo Weasel: Third of the Tide (Liar) Edited January 12 by A Jo in the Bush 1
Mint Heron Posted January 10 Posted January 10 (edited) Hmm. Very very odd. E!Seeker, E!Rioter, E!Kandra 2 x V!MB, 2 x V!Lurcher, 1 x V!CS? Not role-exeing at this juncture, but something doesn't quite add up. Rhino to start. Acknowledge Beagle's points, this is strictly vote-based. EDIT: Did Ele shoot Axl N1 then? Edited January 10 by Mint Heron
Magenta Albatross Posted January 10 Posted January 10 dagum killling a MB like that is insane and there goes our perfect record also Jo I love the music part of the writeup
Mint Heron Posted January 10 Posted January 10 @A Jo in the Bush / @The Unknown Medallion What's happening to Lion and Cham btw? Are they getting filter-killed or replaced?
Taupe Gecko Posted January 10 Posted January 10 @Scarlet Octopus assuming you're responsible for the Elephant death? Also @A Jo in the Bush that was beautiful Petition to publicly execute Azure Mouse for the next writeup? Quote 1. Taupe Gecko Toucan 1 minute ago, Magenta Albatross said: and there goes our perfect record NOOOOO that's so true Ele's sacrifice will be remembered Lowkey out of everyone I'm okay with that death Gtg
Oxblood Beagle Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Hmmm interesting 3 minutes ago, Mint Heron said: Hmm. Very very odd. E!Seeker, E!Rioter, E!Kandra 2 x V!MB, 2 x V!Lurcher, 1 x V!CS? Not role-exeing at this juncture, but something doesn't quite add up. Rhino to start. Acknowledge Beagle's points, this is strictly vote-based. EDIT: Did Ele shoot Axl N1 then? Yeah, I'm feeling a bit confused with the distro atm Going to start with Quartz Zebra today
Scarlet Octopus Posted January 10 Posted January 10 9 minutes ago, Taupe Gecko said: @Scarlet Octopus assuming you're responsible for the Elephant death? Yeah... That was on me. I thought they were the safest kill option. I'm sorry , I've now killed more villagers than the Elims have In regards to the Elim Coinshot, I don't think they're a coinshot, I think they're a mistborn, and I think it's Rhino.
Ivory Dragonfly Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Ivory Dragonfly Lurcher Ivory Dragonfly Violet Axolotl? 20 minutes ago, Mint Heron said: role-exeing at this juncture Plum Rhinoserous they're a mistborn
Plum Rhinoceros Posted January 10 Posted January 10 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Scarlet Octopus said: In regards to the Elim Coinshot, I don't think they're a coinshot, I think they're a mistborn, and I think it's Rhino. There's no indication of Elim Coinshot. If you mean the Saboteurs' Kill, anyone from the Saboteurs' team can use it. 22 minutes ago, Ivory Dragonfly said: Plum Rhinoserous they're a mistborn ... I'd assume you'd show a little bit of caution with some else's role info given the lead we have but oh well. I'm a village Mistborn, I rolled Thug last cycle, so I wanted to claim to a few trusted villagers (Bea and DF) in case Octopus decided to shoot me so the village is not surprised by my survival. I also claimed to Octo to let them know I'd survive if they shoot me, so that they could make an informed decision. N1 Axo shot was not me. I rolled Rioter in D1-N1 and did not use it. Edited January 10 by Plum Rhinoceros
Mint Heron Posted January 10 Posted January 10 9 minutes ago, Taupe Gecko said: Wait wait wait why are we all piling up on Rhino? I'm voting Rhino for their votes man Idk I would be willing to vote Toucan too for how opportunistic they've been. 45 minutes ago, Mint Heron said: Did Ele shoot Axl N1 then? Tbh I am not sure Ele shot Axl given how behind Ele was and how vascillatory they tended to be, which is why I ask because my concern is: 45 minutes ago, Mint Heron said: E!Seeker, E!Rioter, E!Kandra 2 x V!MB, 2 x V!Lurcher, 1 x V!CS? E!Seeker, E!Rioter, E!Kandra 4 x V!MB, 2 x V!Lurcher, 1 x V!CS? This is absolutely not correct and unacceptable with what we have of the Elim side of the distro. Something is very wrong here. IDK I would role-exe but the Village roster is, comparatively, bonkers stacked on roles. 44 minutes ago, Taupe Gecko said: Also @A Jo in the Bush that was beautiful Yeah shout out to @A Jo in the Bush / @The Unknown Medallion whoever wrote it, loved it, sorry got distracted by the problem at hand. 35 minutes ago, Scarlet Octopus said: I'm sorry , I've now killed more villagers than the Elims have tfw Ocho is not actually wrong Spoiler
Ivory Dragonfly Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Sapphire Elephant: Responsible. Beautiful. Quote It feels like something too bold for an elim to do It would've drawn too much attention, and it did Meerkat was doing it in a way that tried not to draw too much attention I don't think an elim would draw so much attention. Will be remembered. Quote Wait wait wait why are we all piling up on Rhino? : Quote I don't think I can contribute to the discussion of Day One Spoiler Quote Sage Kangaroo (4): Salmon Meerkat, Oxblood Beagle, Ivory Dragonfly, Indigo Weasel Quote He was certain he would not be clear as his head was not in the right space and he did not have enough time to go over the entire recording but he thought that what he saw was enough. I do find it odd that Chiji (Oct) spoke the words 'work up some solid evidence' and I can see and understand why Echo (DF) would find it suspicious. An interesting note here is that - as soon as Echo votes on Chiji, Third (Wsl) votes on Echo on what they later state as a poke vote. However, going through the recording, in that particular moment, it reads as "well, your vote on Chiji is suspicious because they just said they were voting someone random and you're voting on them for voting on someone random". ... Spoiler * Quote I'm okay with either Ig or Toucan. The vote is not a preference of one over the other, it is to break the tie Toucan has with Octo. I'll look more into both of them to see if there's any reason to favor one over the other. Quote Toucan -> Toucan's response to suspicion on them seems to be weird. They seem to think that we suspect them for voting on Axo, which is not the entire picture. They seem to think the question is "why did you vote on Axo?", but the question we are posing is "why did you vote on Axo in the night?", emphasis on the night part. I feel like a Saboteur here would be hyper-aware of what they actually did, so this actually makes me want to give minor village points? Ig -> Yeah, it's that damning move off Roo onto Octo. It's just that, I can't find anything else. I don't know guys, can I interest you in some Tross? I suspect them more than either of these guys. Quote Sunburst Toucan (5): Scarlet Octopus, Saffron Iguana, Quartz Zebra, Plum Rhinoceros, Mint Heron Scarlet Octopus (4): Violet Axolotl, Sunburst Toucan, Sapphire Elephant, Indigo Weasel Saffron Iguana (5): Oxblood Beagle, Onyx Flamingo, Melon Dingo, Magenta Albatross, Ivory Dragonfly Quote Yeah, I think I'm staying on Toucan. Night vote is still more weirder particularly on Axo, when compared to moving off Roo when Axo was at 5 votes. Quote (Saffron Iguana): Guess that’s it then. Quote Claim? Spoiler * Quote I'm a village Mistborn Quote so the village * * Quote (Mint Heron:) Just... from the Elim POV, if there's a kandra available to try to harvest the CS template (Doesn't mean there isn't an adjacent world where the Elims back a train hoping to harvest the template btw.) Okay with that death? True Quote Taupe Gecko (1): Salmon Meerkat Sunburst Toucan (4): Scarlet Octopus, Saffron Iguana, Quartz Zebra, Plum Rhinoceros Scarlet Octopus (4): Violet Axolotl, Sunburst Toucan, Sapphire Elephant, Indigo Weasel Saffron Iguana (6): Oxblood Beagle, Onyx Flamingo, Mint Heron, Melon Dingo, Magenta Albatross, Ivory Dragonfly Death! Death! Death! Noooo.
Plum Rhinoceros Posted January 10 Posted January 10 4 minutes ago, Mint Heron said: I'm voting Rhino for their votes man Idk Vote singular? Or do you mean votes in D2? Which would be Albatross -> Toucan 7 minutes ago, Mint Heron said: E!Seeker, E!Rioter, E!Kandra 4 x V!MB, 2 x V!Lurcher, 1 x V!CS? Does this mean you have received 2 x v!MB claims?
Mint Heron Posted January 10 Posted January 10 2 minutes ago, Plum Rhinoceros said: Vote singular? Or do you mean votes in D2? Which would be Albatross -> Toucan I guess if I'm precise I mean your D1 non-vote Ocho casing during the Kanga v Axl standoff, and the D2 Toucan while asking for Tross since that's the CW to Iggy. I go back and forth about how to read it, but I think you could be worried about a last minute saving vote at D1 EoD backfiring since Gecko and I were stated to be there trying to prevent votes from altering the gamestate, and Toucan still is the Iggy CW. Speaking of which, in your world, Toucan and Iggy are E/E. What's your theory of the EoD and no attempted Elim deflection to a third train? 5 minutes ago, Plum Rhinoceros said: Does this mean you have received 2 x v!MB claims? I've received 1 x v!MB, and that person successfully claimed the C2 Tin but not the N1 shot. Since you do not claim it, and since I think Ele's hesitance to vote and general sheeping makes them less likely to be a proactive triggerman, I'm left with the alarming possibility a fourth player took the shot. In addition, I'm persuaded by DF's D2 argument that Axl isn't an E shot - there's no real reason to help us clear the CW here when an E!MB could shoot elsewhere. So I lean V on that. Edited to add: 13 minutes ago, Ivory Dragonfly said: Death! Death! Death! Noooo. Help
Quartz Zebra Posted January 10 Posted January 10 (edited) SUBJECT: WHAT JUST HAPPENED?!?!?! Scrap it all! We just lost our Mistborn? Klin was one of the best regulators we had! That’s a massive leak in our hull, crew. We’re bleedin’ power and expertise now. And Zense? Someone tried to take a wrench to 'em in the dark! If the Saboteurs are gunnin' for Heron, it means Zense barkin' up the right tree. My Grumble-Gauge is pointin' straight at the shadows that moved while the Kiln was fallin'. I’m also backin’ the Security Chief on shuttin' down the PMs. If people were huddlin' in the dark to avoid the public log, they can do their talkin' right here in the bay now. No more "secret huddles" while the ship's on fire. I'm votin' Ophelia for now. While everyone was distractin' us with Chiji-gambits, the quiet ones let a Mistborn get scrapped. Time to see what's rattlin' inside that pipe. Stay safe, and don't touch my doodads -Finch Edited January 10 by Quartz Zebra
Magenta Albatross Posted January 10 Posted January 10 D1 VC: Spoiler Violet Axolotl (4); Onyx Flamingo, Mint Heron, Melon Dingo, Mauve Crocodile Scarlet Octopus (1); Saffron Iguana Sapphire Elephant (1); Sunburst Toucan Salmon Meerkat (2); Sapphire Elephant, Magenta Albatross Sage Kangaroo (5); Taupe Gecko, Salmon Meerkat, Oxblood Beagle, Ivory Dragonfly, Indigo Weasel Mauve Crocodile (1); Quartz Zebra Ivory Dragonfly (2); Violet Axolotl, Scarlet Octopus Indigo Weasel (1); Sage Kangaroo D2 VC: Spoiler Taupe Gecko (1): Salmon Meerkat Sunburst Toucan (4): Scarlet Octopus, Saffron Iguana, Quartz Zebra, Plum Rhinoceros Scarlet Octopus (4): Violet Axolotl, Sunburst Toucan, Sapphire Elephant, Indigo Weasel Saffron Iguana (6): Oxblood Beagle, Onyx Flamingo, Mint Heron, Melon Dingo, Magenta Albatross, Ivory Dragonfly now if we make some assumptions (ie v/Beagle, v/dragonfly v/Weasel, v/octopus (for igs isolated vote), similar reasoning for zebra uhh looking at this im missing something axolotl I know nothing abt them and its a whole in my anaylsis I'm willing to see an elim among Axolotl or Rhinoceros based on D2 Axolotl for now
Mint Heron Posted January 10 Posted January 10 1 minute ago, Quartz Zebra said: I'm votin' Ophelia for now. Spoiler
Taupe Gecko Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Confusion was becoming regular for H.E.A.R.T.H. Or maybe that was just his battery giving up. He had known for a day now. The charge vessels - composed mainly of nickel and cadmium - were eroding. They had to be replaced. There was just a single problem: that would have to wait until they reached the next port to resupply. Too long. Funny. That was what mortals would call it. After millennia of war and blood and death, this was what would get him. A faulty battery. H.E.A.R.T.H shoved the thought out of his head. That didn’t matter know. He still had time left. And in that time, he would give everything to save this crew. Even if he could not save himself. Fun Fact: I wrote this RP THREE TIMES because it kept deleting. Rusting lack of undo button
Mint Heron Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Edited to add: Here because ninjaed. 21 minutes ago, Mint Heron said: I've received 1 x v!MB, and that person successfully claimed the C2 Tin but not the N1 shot. Since you do not claim it, and since I think Ele's hesitance to vote and general sheeping makes them less likely to be a proactive triggerman, I'm left with the alarming possibility a fourth player took the shot. In addition, I'm persuaded by DF's D2 argument that Axl isn't an E shot - there's no real reason to help us clear the CW here when an E!MB could shoot elsewhere. So I lean V on that. Like, sure, this is overstating it and we could very well be in a 3 x v!MB world, suppose Ele really took the shot or somehow that person forgot to mention they shot Axl N1. The problem is that 3 x v!MB, 2 x v!Lurcher, 1 x v!CS is...still quite a bit of actions firepower. What do the Elims have? Rioter is strong, yes. Seeker for Elims is more offensively deployed and is odd in a landscape with no PMs. (I suspect the GMs may have slightly overlooked what their MB rules change did because in OG Tyrian, repeats are possible so 3 or 4x MB in a game guarantees that you will have sufficient PMs, whereas here, there are no repeats, so...it is what it is. On 12/29/2025 at 1:37 AM, The Unknown Medallion said: Mistborn: At the beginning of each Cycle, the Mistborn is told what their role is. The role is randomly chosen, without repeats possible until all 8 roles have been used. That may make MB weaker than in an OG Tyrian and that's the balance, IDK. I think Jo and TUM are experienced enough GMs so while I could believe they overlooked it (similar to the Lurcher nerf necessary), I don't really know enough to opine on it.) I just think that fundamentally one team seems to have more visible firepower than the other. There are two solutions to this: A. Someone Village-side is lying B. There's something we're not seeing in the distro. I don't feel confident enough to role-exe btw but I suppose since Rhino has been outed, it is what it is at present. C'est comme ca as they'd say.
Plum Rhinoceros Posted January 10 Posted January 10 3 minutes ago, Mint Heron said: I guess if I'm precise I mean your D1 non-vote Ocho casing during the Kanga v Axl standoff, and the D2 Toucan while asking for Tross since that's the CW to Iggy. I know I'm repeating myself but it was not an Octo case at all, if you go back to the post and read it, it contains things I found notable starting from P1 but I could only get to P2/P3 before I was called away. You can see a note on a Weasel comment as well. It's just that Octo had most notable posts up to where I read. When I came back, my only goal was to save the post instead of it getting eaten so I finished it up, unaware on anything that was happening at EoD, including Roo-Axo standoff. And again I ask, what is the point of casing someone (for the purpose of wanting a separate train) AFTER the cycle is over? 10 minutes ago, Mint Heron said: Speaking of which, in your world, Toucan and Iggy are E/E. What's your theory of the EoD and no attempted Elim deflection to a third train? The third train was the Octo train, which is why I'm looking at Axo as well. I think it could have been me as well, as I pointed out Ig's frustration at my train falling off very quickly without the opportunity to do so. 19 minutes ago, Mint Heron said: I've received 1 x v!MB, and that person successfully claimed the C2 Tin but not the N1 shot. Since you do not claim it, and since I think Ele's hesitance to vote and general sheeping makes them less likely to be a proactive triggerman, I'm left with the alarming possibility a fourth player took the shot. In addition, I'm persuaded by DF's D2 argument that Axl isn't an E shot - there's no real reason to help us clear the CW here when an E!MB could shoot elsewhere. So I lean V on that. Hm, I had assumed C2 Tin was El. I don't know then. Maaaybe you can make the argument that Coinshot is a 1/8 cycles opportunity and El would have used it? I don't know how you read the MB who claimed to you but please do not fall into the trap of cyclic role-exeing (I know you aren't right now, this is just a general statement to everyone). I respect Jo/TUM as a GM enough to believe they could balance 4 v!MBs. But yeah, Axo is not looking good right now looking purely through role-exe lense.
Magenta Albatross Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Rane stood at the edge of eternity. It was lonely, out there, in the desolation of space. The darkness. Silent and beautiful. He tossed a coin up into the air, catching it. The gambler. That's who he was. A gambler who had gone to space, seeking new worlds. And he would die here, in this wasteland. "It's an abyss." he whispered, half to himself. "Looks like the God Beyond himself." Indeed. buzzed a voice in his ear. Rane sighed. That rusting spren. He goes to Roshar for 6 months, and this bloody spren decided him to follow him all over the Cosmere. "Ruin take you, spren. I don't even know what kind you are." he sighed. Reacher. You are Willshaper. "I don't have a rusting clue what that means." Say the Words. He laughed. "I'm no Rosharan Knight." Say the Words. Avenge your brother. Rane froze. "My brother . . . don't talk about him." You need to make your own way. "Brilliant. Why do you think I left rusting Scadrial?" To follow your brother. Make your own way. Rane breathed. "Spren . . . look . . . I left Scadrial to be my own man." By following your brother like a starving axehound? The Reacher vibrated in confusion. Rane sighed. "I am a Cauthon. I can't abandon him. We toss the dice together." That's your father's words. Toss the dice together. I remember that. "How . . . I hadn't met you before that!" Our souls are . . . tied together. I need you to say the Words. Rane paused. "I . . ." For your brother. Rust and Ruin. "Life . . . Life before Death." The spren buzzed happily. "Strength before weakness." The spren began to glow brighter. "Journey . . . Journey before Destination." And the room exploded. Harmony burn him, he was glowing. He was Radiant. 1
Mint Heron Posted January 10 Posted January 10 10 minutes ago, Plum Rhinoceros said: And again I ask, what is the point of casing someone (for the purpose of wanting a separate train) AFTER the cycle is over? My theory in that world was that you were trying to make the case, the EoD was too chaotic, you never successfully finished, and then just posted it because why not. 10 minutes ago, Plum Rhinoceros said: The third train was the Octo train, which is why I'm looking at Axo as well. I think it could have been me as well, as I pointed out Ig's frustration at my train falling off very quickly without the opportunity to do so. My problem with it being Axl is basically we need to explain complete Elim dgaf. I point out the cycle was relatively calm when it was DF v Axl, and really the only time the pace picked up was at D1 EoD and that was after I was kicking rocks repeatedly about DF's Lurcher claim. Again: Just short of the 36 hour mark, this is the vc. 4 hours ago, Mint Heron said: Violet Axolotl (4): Onyx Flamingo, Mint Heron, Melon Dingo, Mauve Crocodile Sunburst Toucan (1): Ivory Dragonfly Sapphire Elephant (2): Sunburst Toucan, Oxblood Beagle Salmon Meerkat (2): Sapphire Elephant, Magenta Albatross Sage Kangaroo (3): Salmon Meerkat, Saffron Iguana, Indigo Weasel Mauve Crocodile (1): Quartz Zebra Ivory Dragonfly (4): Violet Axolotl, Taupe Gecko, Scarlet Octopus, Sage Kangaroo Not Voting (3): Opal Lion, Pearl Chameleon, Plum Rhinoceros The presence of one Elim on both trains, and Iguana subsequently moving off Kanga to Weasel suggests the Elims were comfortable with the state of affairs. In an E!Axl world, they should not be okay with this! In an E!Axl world, Iguana should be moving onto Dragonfly, or onto Ele or onto Meerkat because the absolute worst state of affairs is for Axl to be one of two lead trains, and for Kanga to be second runner-up! (And we can see that Ig thought so as well because he eventually got off Kanga!) The fact the only urgency at D1 EoD came from me indicates a lot of complacency, and I think even if you don't buy I'm V (you pretty much have to in an E!Axl world since you can't explain Elim complacency as easily if you think I'm V) it's hard to explain why Iguana went completely side-train onto Weasel in a one-guy vote. An Elim does not do that if his teammates are in danger, and he in fact did that before I started yelling about DF.
Magenta Albatross Posted January 10 Posted January 10 11 minutes ago, Mint Heron said: My theory in that world was that you were trying to make the case, the EoD was too chaotic, you never successfully finished, and then just posted it because why not. My problem with it being Axl is basically we need to explain complete Elim dgaf. I point out the cycle was relatively calm when it was DF v Axl, and really the only time the pace picked up was at D1 EoD and that was after I was kicking rocks repeatedly about DF's Lurcher claim. Again: Just short of the 36 hour mark, this is the vc. The presence of one Elim on both trains, and Iguana subsequently moving off Kanga to Weasel suggests the Elims were comfortable with the state of affairs. In an E!Axl world, they should not be okay with this! In an E!Axl world, Iguana should be moving onto Dragonfly, or onto Ele or onto Meerkat because the absolute worst state of affairs is for Axl to be one of two lead trains, and for Kanga to be second runner-up! (And we can see that Ig thought so as well because he eventually got off Kanga!) The fact the only urgency at D1 EoD came from me indicates a lot of complacency, and I think even if you don't buy I'm V (you pretty much have to in an E!Axl world since you can't explain Elim complacency as easily if you think I'm V) it's hard to explain why Iguana went completely side-train onto Weasel in a one-guy vote. An Elim does not do that if his teammates are in danger, and he in fact did that before I started yelling about DF. hmm interesting that makes sense to me imma try and do some D1 digging but for now Rhino for now
Sunburst Toucan Posted January 10 Posted January 10 (edited) Ophelia groaned. She'd somehow made it through the night without being shot, and now she was on the verge of being voted out again. 1 hour ago, Mint Heron said: I'm voting Rhino for their votes man Idk I would be willing to vote Toucan too for how opportunistic they've been. Tbh I am not sure Ele shot Axl given how behind Ele was and how vascillatory they tended to be, which is why I ask because my concern is: E!Seeker, E!Rioter, E!Kandra 4 x V!MB, 2 x V!Lurcher, 1 x V!CS? This is absolutely not correct and unacceptable with what we have of the Elim side of the distro. Something is very wrong here. IDK I would role-exe but the Village roster is, comparatively, bonkers stacked on roles. Yeah shout out to @A Jo in the Bush / @The Unknown Medallion whoever wrote it, loved it, sorry got distracted by the problem at hand. tfw Ocho is not actually wrong Reveal hidden contents May I ask how my behaviour has been opportunistic? This isn't intended to be angry; I'm not really sure what I did. I switched vote trains on Night One, which was a mistake and I have said as much. It's possible there's a second v!mistborn (that feels unbalanced to me, but this is an anniversary game and I'm not an expert); it's also possible there's a second v!coinshot who chose not to shoot, which is the conclusion I'm leaning towards. My vote for now is on Rhino, although it's more of an I-don't-want-to-be-voted-out-myself vote as the other person with a lot of votes on them right now. (Oops, now I'm definitely being opportunistic). I will change it, if it comes to that. Apologies, Rhino. Ophelia went back to cleaning the forks. Edited January 10 by Sunburst Toucan
Mint Heron Posted January 10 Posted January 10 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Mint Heron said: Iguana went completely side-train onto Weasel in a one-guy vote. My bad Ig side-trained onto Ocho IDK how I confused that with Weasel but point stands. Ig creates a one-vote sidetrain. Sure, this protects Kanga, but it's difficult to see this happening + Croc contentment with state of affairs if Axl is also Evil. Edited to add: 8 minutes ago, Sunburst Toucan said: May I ask how my behaviour has been opportunistic? This isn't intended to be angry; I'm not really sure what I did. I switched vote trains on Night One, which was a mistake and I have said as much. This jump onto the Octo train. I accept you gave reasons, but fundamentally I'm still looking for votes which took advantage of Weasel starting the train by aggressively pushing Ocho to also push Ocho and you fit the bill. Edited to add 2: 8 minutes ago, Sunburst Toucan said: It's possible there's a second v!mistborn (that feels unbalanced to me, but this is an anniversary game and I'm not an expert); it's also possible there's a second v!coinshot who chose not to shoot, which is the conclusion I'm leaning towards. ........Why do you feel a second v!Coinshot is less unbalanced than a second v!Mistborn? Edited January 10 by Mint Heron
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