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Hello my fellow BrandySandy fans,

I want to float a bundled theory about Wayne that ties together several ideas that are often discussed separately: Fortune, identity, Harmony’s limitations, kandra connections, and Wayne’s seemingly “random” influence on Scadrial.

Core premise:

Wayne is not a full Feruchemist—but he is a uniquely effective agent of Harmony precisely because of how subtle, indirect, and unconscious his influence is.

1. Harmony’s Problem: Subtlety

Harmony repeatedly states that he is constrained—blind in places, unable to act decisively without upsetting the balance between Ruin and Preservation. Historically, both Shards relied on nudges, not commands. Preservation’s plans worked through tiny interventions; Ruin excelled at indirect manipulation.

Wayne fits this pattern perfectly:

He never receives direct orders.

He acts impulsively, emotionally, and chaotically.

Harmony still explicitly calls him “one of my agents.”

That combination feels intentional.

2. Wayne and Fortune (Not Feruchemy)

Wayne displays repeated, abnormal “luck”:

Winning at cards (often framed as cheating, but reads like Fortune).

Taking or trading objects that later prove symbolically or narratively important.

His fixation on small trades—always leaving something behind.

This doesn’t require Wayne to consciously tap Fortune. Instead, it suggests:

Harmony subtly weighting probabilities.

Wayne being nudged toward actions that look meaningless but ripple outward.

The handkerchief-with-the-rabbit scene, paired with Wayne’s monologue about the past changing the future, feels almost too on-the-nose to be accidental.

3. Identity, Performance, and Aluminum

Brandon has said Wayne is “just a very good actor.” I agree—but that doesn’t rule out Cosmere mechanics reinforcing that talent.

Points of interest:

Aluminum becomes more common as Era 2 progresses.

Wayne is constantly swapping items and carrying objects in his duster.

Identity storage doesn’t require hats specifically—clothing and carried metal would suffice.

His personalities are context-perfect, not random.

Even if Wayne is not storing Identity himself, he may be unusually malleable to it—something we know Investiture responds to.

4. Wayne as an Unacknowledged Catalyst

Wayne:

Funds technological advancement (electric lighting, sports leagues).

Accelerates cultural change while believing he’s “wasting money.”

Has no attachment to wealth or legacy.

Is almost never credited.

That is exactly how a Shard constrained from overt action would prefer change to happen.

5. Kandra Adjacency (Not Necessarily Heritage)

I’m not asserting Wayne is half-kandra—but the parallels are interesting:

Deep emotional resonance with MeLaan.

Comfort with fluid identity.

Kandra are now agents of Harmony.

Wayne’s father disappears mysteriously and was a “mine worker.”

Even if no literal lineage exists, Wayne occupies the same narrative function as a kandra: adaptive, unnoticed, transformative.

6. The Literary Device

From a storytelling perspective, Wayne works as a “background force”:

Readers write him off as comic relief.

His actions accumulate quietly.

Only late do we see how much he altered the trajectory of Scadrial.

If this is intentional, Wayne isn’t the hero who saves the world—he’s the one who makes sure the right world exists to be saved.

TL;DR:

Wayne isn’t a secret Feruchemist or a chosen prophet. He’s something more dangerous and more useful to Harmony: an unconscious vector for subtle change, probability nudging, and cultural evolution—guided, but never commanded.

Curious what others think, and whether there are WoBs or textual counterpoints I may have missed.

— WitAdjacent

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It's an interesting and original theory, but I think it runs into some potential hurdles:

Firstly, I think that a lot of the details that you noticed can be explained away as being plot armor; in other words, Wayne is such a great actor, or so great at business, because it makes for a good story. It's important to remember that stories are inherently unrealistic, and thus, if something is implausible, it doesn't necessarily mean that there is a supernatural explanation (e.g. John McClane does not have supernatural powers despite being unreasonably lucky and skilled). 

Secondly, your theory would presuppose Harmony being some master Machiavellian manipulator, which contradicts how he's presented in the books as being, quite frankly, a bumbling idiot. For instance, he was completely taken by surprise by Bavadin in The Lost Metal, and his attempts to manipulate Wax were very ham-fisted, which caused problems down the line. (Incidentally, Shadows of Self is by far the best book in Era 2 for this very reason.)

Finally, while your theory does explain the relevant details, it doesn't give a particularly strong case for why we should believe in it—your specific points can be pretty easily explained away without invoking divine intervention. 

So, in conclusion, while your theory is certainly original, personally, I'm unconvinced. 

As an aside, @WitAdjacent, did you use some sort of AI program to help write this post? It contains a lot of "AI speak" such as "it's not x—it's y" or the rule of three. I don't mean to judge you—I'm simply curious.  

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On 1/8/2026 at 1:11 AM, Schizoposting said:

It's an interesting and original theory, but I think it runs into some potential hurdles:

Firstly, I think that a lot of the details that you noticed can be explained away as being plot armor; in other words, Wayne is such a great actor, or so great at business, because it makes for a good story. It's important to remember that stories are inherently unrealistic, and thus, if something is implausible, it doesn't necessarily mean that there is a supernatural explanation (e.g. John McClane does not have supernatural powers despite being unreasonably lucky and skilled). 

Secondly, your theory would presuppose Harmony being some master Machiavellian manipulator, which contradicts how he's presented in the books as being, quite frankly, a bumbling idiot. For instance, he was completely taken by surprise by Bavadin in The Lost Metal, and his attempts to manipulate Wax were very ham-fisted, which caused problems down the line. (Incidentally, Shadows of Self is by far the best book in Era 2 for this very reason.)

Finally, while your theory does explain the relevant details, it doesn't give a particularly strong case for why we should believe in it—your specific points can be pretty easily explained away without invoking divine intervention. 

So, in conclusion, while your theory is certainly original, personally, I'm unconvinced. 

As an aside, @WitAdjacent, did you use some sort of AI program to help write this post? It contains a lot of "AI speak" such as "it's not x—it's y" or the rule of three. I don't mean to judge you—I'm simply curious.  

Thanks for your response @Schizoposting.

I did, and do, use AI to organize my thoughts into a post or other things. I spend a lot of time on the road and enjoy using the "chat" feature to spitball my ideas and type them out. I typed this out, but im comfortably at home today 😌 

While I could see it as being "plot armor" I find that in Sanderson's books he rarely does something that doesn't have a meaning behind it (whether or not its apparent at this point or not), but I could easily be reading more into it than is actually there. Plot armor didn't seem to stop Wayne from dying in the biggest damn explosion a human has ever made (much to his excitement and my sorrow). 

And yes, Harmony is limited, but it just makes me think back to Secret History where preservation was kind of an idiot too. Harmony is just on the other side of things. He is new to it and struggling to balance, while preservation had a plan and was dying and couldn't remember his plan. I also think of it being somewhat like his preservation side has to hide things from his ruin side and vise versa. He's a being of duality and opposing forces that limits his ability to intervene one way or another, but he still finds ways to do so, and maybe thats what we're seeing - this cognitive dissonance of sorts- thus his "ham-fisted"-ness.

Not trying to convince anyone per se, but its just a thought that occurred tk me while driving and listening. 👉👈😅

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On 1/8/2026 at 1:11 AM, Schizoposting said:

Secondly, your theory would presuppose Harmony being some master Machiavellian manipulator, which contradicts how he's presented in the books as being, quite frankly, a bumbling idiot. For instance, he was completely taken by surprise by Bavadin in The Lost Metal, and his attempts to manipulate Wax were very ham-fisted, which caused problems down the line. (Incidentally, Shadows of Self is by far the best book in Era 2 for this very reason.)

While I don’t think Harmony is a master Machiavellian manipulator either, and might even be a bumbling idiot compared to Preservation, I think you’re underestimating him. There are several lines, both in dialogue and narrative, that either subtly or explicitly point towards his capabilties in planning and precognition. Especially in The Lost Metal.

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On 1/9/2026 at 12:18 PM, WitAdjacent said:

While I could see it as being "plot armor" I find that in Sanderson's books he rarely does something that doesn't have a meaning behind it (whether or not its apparent at this point or not), but I could easily be reading more into it than is actually there. Plot armor didn't seem to stop Wayne from dying in the biggest damn explosion a human has ever made (much to his excitement and my sorrow). 

It's important to understand that the Cosmere is not a parallel universe adjacent to our own—it's nothing more than words on a page written by guy named Brandon Sanderson. Therefore, the events that transpire in it happen, not because they unfolded via their own logical necessity, but because Brandon willed it to happen. That's to say, the reason why Wayne died is not because of this or that in-world reason; he died because Brandon wanted him to die. That's what I mean by "plot armor". 

Also, (and I don't mean to be aggressive here) the idea that everything that every minor or otherwise contingent detail must exist by some hidden necessity, is the perfect encapsulation of the logic of conspiratorialism; to the conspiracy theorist it's inconceivable that, for instance, a U.S. president would be assassinated by a random madman—it can only be explained as the machination of some shadowy all-powerful group. Now, it's certainly possible that every single detail in the Cosmere is the result of a Shardic conspiracy going all the way back to Adonalsium. But this contradicts the available textual evidence, and it seems very unlikely that this is the route that Brandon will go down. So, I think that's perfectly acceptable to believe in coincidences, or otherwise random events, in the Cosmere, without having to attribute it to divine intervention.

On 1/9/2026 at 12:18 PM, WitAdjacent said:

And yes, Harmony is limited, but it just makes me think back to Secret History where preservation was kind of an idiot too. Harmony is just on the other side of things. He is new to it and struggling to balance, while preservation had a plan and was dying and couldn't remember his plan. I also think of it being somewhat like his preservation side has to hide things from his ruin side and vise versa. He's a being of duality and opposing forces that limits his ability to intervene one way or another, but he still finds ways to do so, and maybe thats what we're seeing - this cognitive dissonance of sorts- thus his "ham-fisted"-ness.

I find that Preservations plan to defeat Ruin is woefully misunderstood by the fandom: his plan was not "in exactly 7000 years a guy named Sazed will take up Ruin and Preservation to become Harmony"; it was to create the general conditions by which someone like Sazed could take up Harmony. In other words, Preservation made Ruin's defeat a possibility—not an inevitability.

On 1/21/2026 at 4:21 AM, AleStaar said:

While I don’t think Harmony is a master Machiavellian manipulator either, and might even be a bumbling idiot compared to Preservation, I think you’re underestimating him. There are several lines, both in dialogue and narrative, that either subtly or explicitly point towards his capabilties in planning and precognition. Especially in The Lost Metal.

I last read TLM ~1 year ago, so my recollection may be faulty, but I was very much unimpressed by his performance—from what I remember, he didn't even discover that the set was preparing to nuke Elendel—that was Wax and Wayne, which quite frankly embarrassing for a god. I honestly think that, with the possible exception of Honor/Tanavast , he's the dumbest shard that we've seen in the Cosmere so far.

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On 1/24/2026 at 6:30 PM, Schizoposting said:

I last read TLM ~1 year ago, so my recollection may be faulty, but I was very much unimpressed by his performance—from what I remember, he didn't even discover that the set was preparing to nuke Elendel—that was Wax and Wayne, which quite frankly embarrassing for a god. I honestly think that, with the possible exception of Honor/Tanavast , he's the dumbest shard that we've seen in the Cosmere so far.

He's explicitly said to be blinded during that time period, by Autonomy, one of three or so Shards who have experience in Shard-to-Shard combat. (She helped Odium Splinter Devotion and Dominion, apparently.)

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On 1/24/2026 at 6:30 PM, Schizoposting said:

I find that Preservations plan to defeat Ruin is woefully misunderstood by the fandom: his plan was not "in exactly 7000 years a guy named Sazed will take up Ruin and Preservation to become Harmony"; it was to create the general conditions by which someone like Sazed could take up Harmony. In other words, Preservation made Ruin's defeat a possibility—not an inevitability.

I don’t think anyone misunderstands Preservation’s plan. We all get the gist. The genius behind the plan was that Preservation set into motion many parts of the plan before giving up his mind. Then directly facilitated the plan across the millennia after giving up his mind. Such as Kelsier to Survive in the Pits of Hathsin. All while Ruin was unaware of the desired outcomes. Not only that, but Preservation maneuvered many people (not just Vin) into being vital pieces that would oppose Ruin and lead the way towards Sazed taking up both powers. 

On 1/24/2026 at 6:30 PM, Schizoposting said:

I last read TLM ~1 year ago, so my recollection may be faulty, but I was very much unimpressed by his performance—from what I remember, he didn't even discover that the set was preparing to nuke Elendel—that was Wax and Wayne, which quite frankly embarrassing for a god. I honestly think that, with the possible exception of Honor/Tanavast , he's the dumbest shard that we've seen in the Cosmere so far.

I think it’s valid to be unimpressed by Harmony. But I think there are hints that he was more aware of things and planned for more than he let on. Plus ultimately I don’t think Harmony’s faults come from incompetence. Rather they come from inexperience, the limits of his current Intent, and facing a Shard with much better future sight than Ruin. Most of this didn’t apply to Leras, hence his ability to outplan Ruin.

 

The Alloy of Law - Harmony set things up so Wax’s trunk appears in the Vanishers’ hideout. So it can be there for him at the right place at the right time.

Shadows of Self - Harmony foresaw a disaster if Wax knew he was hunting Lessie. He also confirmed Marasi is one of his agents. This is notable because he never explicitly sent an agent Marasi’s way, at least not in the same manner he did for Wax. It’s also notable when you consider what Marasi accomplished in the climax of each book. 

The Bands of Mourning - He notes that only one of many possible Waxilliums would’ve killed Paalm if he knew her identity as Lessie. This means that was a small future possibility. He also subtly notes that he trusted Marasi to use the Bands of Mourning and give them to Wax. And for the group to stop the Set’s plan to retrieve the Bands of Mourning and ettmetal bomb.

The Lost Metal - I personally think this is the primary book that showcases Harmony’s potential for planning and precognition.

- The envelope he sent to Wax. “You’ll need to make a second [earring], once the proper metal arrives.” The metal is trellium, which the group only obtained when Wayne and Marasi got the Cycle’s trellium spike. This means Harmony foresaw they would do that, and kept an eye on their activities. It’s also notable because the Cycle was in an underground hideout.

- Harmony had help be would send Wax. Some of that help did not realize he was behind their mobilization. This could either Tobal, Maraga, or especially the Ghostbloods. 

- During Kelsier’s epilogue, when Kelsier says it was almost the end, Harmony says he had it in hand. Kelsier says it’s lucky Wax could function after what Harmony put him through six years ago. Lucky that Wayne was a Slider. Kelsier even says he can’t figure out how he managed the partial detonation in the ship’s hold. Harmony said in response “Luck is a different thing for a god who can see futures, I think.”

That all implies he set a precognitive plan into motion before he was blinded. And still has plans in motion. Hence why he “has it in hand” even now.

 

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@AleStaar, I'm not disputing that, as a shard, Sazed has the ability to foresee and manipulate events far beyond that of mere mortals; my point is that when compared to his peers, his performance is lackluster, to say the least. Partly, this is due to structural factors—if Sazed was actually competent, then there'd be no story (or you'd have to make him an antagonist of some sort like in Shadows of Self), so Brandon is forced dumb him down, at least compared to the villains.

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25 minutes ago, Schizoposting said:

@AleStaar, I'm not disputing that, as a shard, Sazed has the ability to foresee and manipulate events far beyond that of mere mortals; my point is that when compared to his peers, his performance is lackluster, to say the least. Partly, this is due to structural factors—if Sazed was actually competent, then there'd be no story (or you'd have to make him an antagonist of some sort like in Shadows of Self), so Brandon is forced dumb him down, at least compared to the villains.

I don’t think that’s true. Like I said, Preservation had a competent plan that spanned thousands of years and involved multiple characters and events throughout the trilogy. A plan that stemmed from his ability to foresee and manipulate events. A plan that worked.

We also shouldn’t forget Ruin’s precognitive ability pales in comparison to Preservation and seemingly Autonomy. The difference between Preservation and a competent Sazed would be that Preservation is finally on his deathbed and mainly active in the Cognitive Realm. And just trusting that the pieces he laid out (including the one he seeded years ago at the Pits) play out as he hoped.

While a competent Sazed is capable of direct and active action. He can plant and trust his seeds, and/or directly fight the villains in each book.

And again, I wouldn’t really say Sazed is incompetent. He’s impotent and inexperienced, especially because of his Shard’s Intent and the enemy he’s facing. Even then we can’t ignore the implications throughout The Lost Metal.

Also, I couldn’t click that spoiler block from earlier 😕

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9 hours ago, AleStaar said:

I don’t think that’s true. Like I said, Preservation had a competent plan that spanned thousands of years and involved multiple characters and events throughout the trilogy. A plan that stemmed from his ability to foresee and manipulate events. A plan that worked.

True, but Ruin almost won, even with Preservation's master plan. So, for there to be a conflict, the villains need to feel like a legitimate threat, which necessitates that Harmony can't just trivially defeat them. In era 2, at least, Autonomy completely outsmarted Sazed; arguably, the only reason she lost, was because of certain suboptimal decisions that she made (i.e. the entirety of TLM), due to external factors, that I can't get into without spoiling things.

10 hours ago, AleStaar said:

Also, I couldn’t click that spoiler block from earlier 😕

My apologies, it contains spoilers for Cosmere works that you haven't read; I should've marked it as such. If you want to see them anyway, you can highlight them, like this.

10 hours ago, AleStaar said:

We also shouldn’t forget Ruin’s precognitive ability pales in comparison to Preservation and seemingly Autonomy. The difference between Preservation and a competent Sazed would be that Preservation is finally on his deathbed and mainly active in the Cognitive Realm. And just trusting that the pieces he laid out (including the one he seeded years ago at the Pits) play out as he hoped.

While a competent Sazed is capable of direct and active action. He can plant and trust his seeds, and/or directly fight the villains in each book.

And again, I wouldn’t really say Sazed is incompetent. He’s impotent and inexperienced, especially because of his Shard’s Intent and the enemy he’s facing. Even then we can’t ignore the implications throughout The Lost Metal.

Again, it's very difficult to discuss this topic, because much of the information that we have about shards, comes from outside of Mistborn. I will say this, however, when compared with other shards, Harmony is very unimpressive, even when considering potentially mitigating circumstances; this is all I can say without spoiling things for you.

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On 2/7/2026 at 10:30 AM, Schizoposting said:

True, but Ruin almost won, even with Preservation's master plan. So, for there to be a conflict, the villains need to feel like a legitimate threat, which necessitates that Harmony can't just trivially defeat them. In era 2, at least, Autonomy completely outsmarted Sazed; arguably, the only reason she lost, was because of certain suboptimal decisions that she made (i.e. the entirety of TLM), due to external factors, that I can't get into without spoiling things.

My apologies, it contains spoilers for Cosmere works that you haven't read; I should've marked it as such. If you want to see them anyway, you can highlight them, like this.

Again, it's very difficult to discuss this topic, because much of the information that we have about shards, comes from outside of Mistborn. I will say this, however, when compared with other shards, Harmony is very unimpressive, even when considering potentially mitigating circumstances; this is all I can say without spoiling things for you.

Really kinda feels like youre just trying to kill the vibe man. This was meant to be fun. If you know that its just words on a page written by Bandin why are you trying so hard to prove a point? I just thought it was a cool theory that was bouncing around my noggin - its not a doctoral thesis. 

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1 minute ago, WitAdjacent said:

Really kinda feels like youre just trying to kill the vibe man. This was meant to be fun. If you know that its just words on a page written by Bandin why are you trying so hard to prove a point? I just thought it was a cool theory that was bouncing around my noggin - its not a doctoral thesis. 

I'm not (intentionally) trying to ruin anyone's enjoyment; I just happen to be interested in literary analysis, which I take seriously. Establishing what actually happens in the plot, and potential subtext, is a part of that.

If you don't want criticism, then you should use the [Support] tag.

 

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