Melon Dingo Posted January 11 Posted January 11 I dont think its Zebra. Can someone link Ivory Drsgonfly's roleclaim? I think maybe we should revisit an e!Axolotl discussion.
Onyx Flamingo Posted January 11 Posted January 11 (edited) 7 hours ago, Mint Heron said: I'd genuinely like an answer by end of C3 because I think it affects how we should be playing the game, depending on whether the refusal to do anything about those two players suggests they are actually not inactives and are (somehow) lurking and sending in orders without filter pressure or not. Lion last logged in on 4th Jan so I'm guessing that Lion is a genuine inactive but Pearl Chameleon has a 7th Jan 1159hrs login which makes me feel that there might be something going on there. I'm not interested in diverting to these guys; I think if anything we can talk about resolving by Coinshot at some point. Like, if the last Elim standing* ends up being Lion, and we kill half the game trying to find them because they're doing nothing, then what? *Note that we are not entertaining either Lion or Cham at this point because there was a kill, which requires someone to have sent in an order. I think my concern is primarily that it looks like an argumentative strategy to create complex explanations for things (notably for which we have no evidence beyond the fact it might have happened) in order to disregard direct evidence. In which case my question is: why even bother doing vote analysis (like you were trying to do earlier this cycle?) And when do you decide something needs a 'just so' explanation for which we have zero evidence beyond plausibility and when not? I don't really care about method arguments if we're finding Elims and I think they're boring in big 2026. My concern and the reason I've latched on to this is it reads like you're trying to FUD-lite in a game for a particular push, and the FUDing is the red flag to me. I want answers to these two posts before making up my mind, btw. I think both these posts look incredibly problematic given both players' stances D2 and early game credit on Zebra can only last so long. I can see a world we are overly-crutching on Elim opportunism on Ocho btw. It is just as possible they decided to let the Village kill itself without interference. To open things up more: Zebra My main issue is that it was one directional. But I also think that I cannot say I believe in Zebra's later game enough that the early game credit should be sacred. I will note going forward that in most worlds we are in a two Elims world left, one Elim in some distros but I don't really believe one. Unless we're in a three Elims world, we're not going to see train size be as indicative anymore, depending. They just don't have the numbers left to split votes too hard. I agree I prefer a non-unanimous votestate, but this is functionally the cleaning up stage of a game if we don't misplay. People need to not overcrutch on expecting a split vote at this point. Edited to add: @Onyx Flamingo Could you say a bit more about your Toucan read? I'm not comfortable basing my entire read of Toucan off your vouch which is in itself based on Toucan's identity at this stage in the game. After what I realized during the Night, and looking through all of Toucan's posts in C2, I found that all of their posts line up perfectly with what I know about them, and I am very confident that they are a Loyalist. 4 hours ago, Plum Rhinoceros said: What do you think about their night vote on Axo? And what do you think about Zebra and Axo themselves. Hm, I do think I'm leaning more on Toucan than Axo. 2 v!Lurchers would make sense if e!Coinshot, and Gecko is right, if there's a 4-person team (or a 5-person team with the 5th person Lion or Cham), e!CS has to submit the Saboteur kill. Toucan and Axo cannot be evil together because of Toucan's night vote on Axo. It was very close between Toucan and Ig in my head. I just made a snap judgement (in this post) in deciding that the night vote on Axo looks so incredibly directed from the Saboteur's doc, when you compare with Ig moving off Roo when Axo was ahead by 2 votes. Also, if you observe, quite a few initial poke votes from the Saboteurs' were on Saboteurs. This is the vote sequence for D1 in which Column 1 is the voter - D1 Gecko Croc DF Weasel Roo DF Zebra Oct Toucan Weasel Axo Roo Oct Meerkat DF Toucan El Roo Croc DF Weasel Weasel DF Roo Dingo Ig Axo Ig Roo Oct Axo Roo DF Tross Meerkat Zebra Croc Meerkat DF Roo Croc Meerkat Axo El Meerkat Bea Axo El Axo Heron Dingo Axo Flami Axo Roo voted on Croc, Ig voted on Roo - it might be a pattern of poke-distancing. Noted that Croc's initial vote was on Meerkat. I claimed to them in PMs, letting them know that I'd survive if they chose me as a target. Sorry, just to clarify, what is the direct evidence that I am disregarding? I don't get the FUD angle either... 2 hours ago, Sunburst Toucan said: I didn't consider earlier that mistborn are considered less powerful than coinshots when I made my post about thinking there are 2 coinshots not 2 mistborn (I really should've but oh well), although it still could be that the other coinshot chose not to kill anyone. Ditto, especially as I've said it was a stupid mistake, and it's almost gotten me voted out. That's not a great under-the-radar elim strategy, if I was one (I'm not, if me just saying that is of any persuasion to anyone). I would like to echo what Toucan said above, too me, it looks like a stupid mistake, sure, a very confusing one, but not one that is e!indicative. I am currently most confident in Toucan being a Loyalist. Edited January 11 by Onyx Flamingo Clarification
Taupe Gecko Posted January 11 Posted January 11 It was nearing evening as H.E.A.R.T.H put down the Way of Kings and finally returned to solving. The text captivated him - so abstract, so anecdotal, it was almost like a handbook of humanity. But H.E.A.R.T.H could not spend the rest of his existence reading. There was work to be done. There were lives to fight for. And so H.E.A.R.T.H set down the book, and opened the ship videofeeds to review yet once again the events of the previous day. In all the chaos, of the following he felt confident: there was a monster among the voters of Octopus. The question was which one. 2 hours ago, Oxblood Beagle said: Can you explain more on what the intention of the elims would be in directing Toucan to vote Axo during the night? First, H.E.A.R.T.H proposed an answer to this question. It was possible that the direction was submitted during the day - but Toucan only saw it in the night, and instinctively took action. Now, for the events of the day (paying attention as well to Zebra, who appeared to be a common suspicion): Zebra's first appearance came before the Octopus train, and said nothing. Toucan implies being vanilla. Toucan, considering current circumstances, willing to solidify a roleclaim? Iguana votes Toucan after a train forms on them (distancing?) with the night vote reasoning. Zebra RPs (quite an active player for one who contributes so little, H.E.A.R.T.H notes). Weasel comes to Toucan's defense, votes Octopus. However, H.E.A.R.T.H was inclined to trust Weasel for now considering anti-Kanga behavior the first day - although that perspective could change. For reference, on the first day, Weasel added a third accusation to Kanga while there was a two-way tie with four accusation each between Dragonfly and Axolotl. If Toucan were to flip evil, however, H.E.A.R.T.H would find Weasel highly suspicious for their activity on the second day. Toucan also votes Octopus, using Weasel's reasoning. Noteworthy they did not vote Iguana, the other main candidate. @Sunburst Toucan was there a particular reason you found Octopus more suspicious than Iguana? Beagle brings down pressure on Iguana. Ele votes Octopus - but we know Ele is clear (thanks Octo). Octopus votes Toucan. Taupe Gecko (1): Salmon Meerkat Sunburst Toucan (3): Taupe Gecko, Scarlet Octopus, Saffron Iguana Scarlet Octopus (2): Sunburst Toucan, Indigo Weasel Saffron Iguana (1): Mint Heron Plum Rhinoceros (2): Oxblood Beagle, Ivory Dragonfly If Toucan is indeed evil, this was where things should get interesting. H.E.A.R.T.H retracted his vote to accuse Weasel. Zebra gives reads - dislikes Ig, dislikes Toucan, dislikes Octopus, votes Octopus. This would be a reasonable move to protect Ig. Toucan train somewhat falls apart. Toucan says they had no reasoning to vote Axolotl. Axolotl votes Octo. Flamingo voted Octo. Heron voted Octo. Hmmmmmmmmmm Ele votes Octo again. Taupe Gecko (1): Salmon Meerkat Sunburst Toucan (1): Saffron Iguana Scarlet Octopus (6): Violet Axolotl, Sunburst Toucan, Sapphire Elephant, Quartz Zebra, Mint Heron, Indigo Weasel Plum Rhinoceros (2): Oxblood Beagle, Ivory Dragonfly Mint Heron (2): Melon Dingo, Magenta Albatross Melon Dingo (1): Taupe Gecko Magenta Albatross (1): Plum Rhinoceros Indigo Weasel (1): Scarlet Octopus Flamingo retracts Octo vote. Ig switches to Rhino. No matter what they say, looks like self-pres to me. Zebra switches from Octo to Toucan. Dragonfly revives Ig train. H.E.A.R.T.H followed. Dragonfly left it again. Ig train begins to rise again. Ig follows my behest to vote Toucan. Heron votes Toucan as well. Taupe Gecko (1): Salmon Meerkat Scarlet Octopus (4): Violet Axolotl, Sunburst Toucan, Sapphire Elephant, Indigo Weasel Mint Heron (1): Melon Dingo Magenta Albatross (1): Plum Rhinoceros Indigo Weasel (1): Scarlet Octopus Sunburst Toucan (4): Quartz Zebra, Taupe Gecko, Saffron Iguana, Mint Heron Onyx Flamingo (1): Oxblood Beagle Sapphire Elephant (1): Magenta Albatross Saffron Iguana (1): Ivory Dragonfly Dingo votes Iguana. Rhino votes Toucan. Says ambivalent between them and Ig, just wants to break tie with Octo. Taupe Gecko (1): Salmon Meerkat Scarlet Octopus (4): Violet Axolotl, Sunburst Toucan, Sapphire Elephant, Indigo Weasel Indigo Weasel (1): Scarlet Octopus Sunburst Toucan (5) : Quartz Zebra, Saffron Iguana, Mint Heron, Plum Rhinoceros, Taupe Gecko Saffron Iguana (2): Ivory Dragonfly, Melon Dingo Sapphire Elephant (1): Magenta Albatross Beagle votes Iguana. 4/5/3 Albatross votes Ig. 4/5/4 H.E.A.R.T.H removed his vote from Toucan. 4/4/4 Octo votes Toucan in self-pres. 4/5/4 Flamingo votes Iguana to preserve tie. Not evil. 4/5/5 Heron votes Iguana. 4/4/6 ... So that was crazy. Anyways If H.E.A.R.T.H wanted to stand by his stance on the Octo train, that meant a monster among Weasel/Toucan/Zebra/Axolotl/Flamingo. He was willing to soft-clear Weasel, Flamingo, and Axolotl, Flam for their end of day madness, Axolotl for staying as the leading train far too long day 1 and Weasel for day 1 anti-Kanga behavior. That left Toucan and Zebra. H.E.A.R.T.H was willing to kill either. But he was nearly sure there was a monster among the pair. Just thought of something @Quartz Zebra were you online during rollover D2?
Onyx Flamingo Posted January 11 Posted January 11 6 minutes ago, Taupe Gecko said: It was nearing evening as H.E.A.R.T.H put down the Way of Kings and finally returned to solving. The text captivated him - so abstract, so anecdotal, it was almost like a handbook of humanity. But H.E.A.R.T.H could not spend the rest of his existence reading. There was work to be done. There were lives to fight for. And so H.E.A.R.T.H set down the book, and opened the ship videofeeds to review yet once again the events of the previous day. In all the chaos, of the following he felt confident: there was a monster among the voters of Octopus. The question was which one. First, H.E.A.R.T.H proposed an answer to this question. It was possible that the direction was submitted during the day - but Toucan only saw it in the night, and instinctively took action. Now, for the events of the day (paying attention as well to Zebra, who appeared to be a common suspicion): Zebra's first appearance came before the Octopus train, and said nothing. Toucan implies being vanilla. Toucan, considering current circumstances, willing to solidify a roleclaim? Iguana votes Toucan after a train forms on them (distancing?) with the night vote reasoning. Zebra RPs (quite an active player for one who contributes so little, H.E.A.R.T.H notes). Weasel comes to Toucan's defense, votes Octopus. However, H.E.A.R.T.H was inclined to trust Weasel for now considering anti-Kanga behavior the first day - although that perspective could change. For reference, on the first day, Weasel added a third accusation to Kanga while there was a two-way tie with four accusation each between Dragonfly and Axolotl. If Toucan were to flip evil, however, H.E.A.R.T.H would find Weasel highly suspicious for their activity on the second day. Toucan also votes Octopus, using Weasel's reasoning. Noteworthy they did not vote Iguana, the other main candidate. @Sunburst Toucan was there a particular reason you found Octopus more suspicious than Iguana? Beagle brings down pressure on Iguana. Ele votes Octopus - but we know Ele is clear (thanks Octo). Octopus votes Toucan. Taupe Gecko (1): Salmon Meerkat Sunburst Toucan (3): Taupe Gecko, Scarlet Octopus, Saffron Iguana Scarlet Octopus (2): Sunburst Toucan, Indigo Weasel Saffron Iguana (1): Mint Heron Plum Rhinoceros (2): Oxblood Beagle, Ivory Dragonfly If Toucan is indeed evil, this was where things should get interesting. H.E.A.R.T.H retracted his vote to accuse Weasel. Zebra gives reads - dislikes Ig, dislikes Toucan, dislikes Octopus, votes Octopus. This would be a reasonable move to protect Ig. Toucan train somewhat falls apart. Toucan says they had no reasoning to vote Axolotl. Axolotl votes Octo. Flamingo voted Octo. Heron voted Octo. Hmmmmmmmmmm Ele votes Octo again. Taupe Gecko (1): Salmon Meerkat Sunburst Toucan (1): Saffron Iguana Scarlet Octopus (6): Violet Axolotl, Sunburst Toucan, Sapphire Elephant, Quartz Zebra, Mint Heron, Indigo Weasel Plum Rhinoceros (2): Oxblood Beagle, Ivory Dragonfly Mint Heron (2): Melon Dingo, Magenta Albatross Melon Dingo (1): Taupe Gecko Magenta Albatross (1): Plum Rhinoceros Indigo Weasel (1): Scarlet Octopus Flamingo retracts Octo vote. Ig switches to Rhino. No matter what they say, looks like self-pres to me. Zebra switches from Octo to Toucan. Dragonfly revives Ig train. H.E.A.R.T.H followed. Dragonfly left it again. Ig train begins to rise again. Ig follows my behest to vote Toucan. Heron votes Toucan as well. Taupe Gecko (1): Salmon Meerkat Scarlet Octopus (4): Violet Axolotl, Sunburst Toucan, Sapphire Elephant, Indigo Weasel Mint Heron (1): Melon Dingo Magenta Albatross (1): Plum Rhinoceros Indigo Weasel (1): Scarlet Octopus Sunburst Toucan (4): Quartz Zebra, Taupe Gecko, Saffron Iguana, Mint Heron Onyx Flamingo (1): Oxblood Beagle Sapphire Elephant (1): Magenta Albatross Saffron Iguana (1): Ivory Dragonfly Dingo votes Iguana. Rhino votes Toucan. Says ambivalent between them and Ig, just wants to break tie with Octo. Taupe Gecko (1): Salmon Meerkat Scarlet Octopus (4): Violet Axolotl, Sunburst Toucan, Sapphire Elephant, Indigo Weasel Indigo Weasel (1): Scarlet Octopus Sunburst Toucan (5) : Quartz Zebra, Saffron Iguana, Mint Heron, Plum Rhinoceros, Taupe Gecko Saffron Iguana (2): Ivory Dragonfly, Melon Dingo Sapphire Elephant (1): Magenta Albatross Beagle votes Iguana. 4/5/3 Albatross votes Ig. 4/5/4 H.E.A.R.T.H removed his vote from Toucan. 4/4/4 Octo votes Toucan in self-pres. 4/5/4 Flamingo votes Iguana to preserve tie. Not evil. 4/5/5 Heron votes Iguana. 4/4/6 ... So that was crazy. Anyways If H.E.A.R.T.H wanted to stand by his stance on the Octo train, that meant a monster among Weasel/Toucan/Zebra/Axolotl/Flamingo. He was willing to soft-clear Weasel, Flamingo, and Axolotl, Flam for their end of day madness, Axolotl for staying as the leading train far too long day 1 and Weasel for day 1 anti-Kanga behavior. That left Toucan and Zebra. H.E.A.R.T.H was willing to kill either. But he was nearly sure there was a monster among the pair. Just thought of something @Quartz Zebra were you online during rollover D2? @Sunburst Toucan I would highly suggest roleclaiming. And further explaining your octo votes
Ivory Dragonfly Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Was there a monster among the voters of Octopus? Quote Ig switches to Rhino. No matter what they say, looks like self-pres to me. Iguana votes Rhino after a train forms on them. Distancing. Iguana train somewhat falls apart. But Iguana: Quote My prediction is everyone gets cold feet about Octo at the last minute and switches to me. * 2 hours ago, Melon Dingo said: Can someone link Ivory Drsgonfly's roleclaim? I think maybe we should revisit an e!Axolotl discussion. Quote Oxblood Beagle (Levin) attacked by Saboteurs, but survived. ^ Ivory Dragonfly Quote Mint Heron was attacked by a Saboteur! They survived! ^ Violet Axolotl
Quartz Zebra Posted January 11 Posted January 11 (edited) 2 hours ago, Taupe Gecko said: It was nearing evening as H.E.A.R.T.H put down the Way of Kings and finally returned to solving. The text captivated him - so abstract, so anecdotal, it was almost like a handbook of humanity. But H.E.A.R.T.H could not spend the rest of his existence reading. There was work to be done. There were lives to fight for. And so H.E.A.R.T.H set down the book, and opened the ship videofeeds to review yet once again the events of the previous day. In all the chaos, of the following he felt confident: there was a monster among the voters of Octopus. The question was which one. First, H.E.A.R.T.H proposed an answer to this question. It was possible that the direction was submitted during the day - but Toucan only saw it in the night, and instinctively took action. Now, for the events of the day (paying attention as well to Zebra, who appeared to be a common suspicion): Zebra's first appearance came before the Octopus train, and said nothing. Toucan implies being vanilla. Toucan, considering current circumstances, willing to solidify a roleclaim? Iguana votes Toucan after a train forms on them (distancing?) with the night vote reasoning. Zebra RPs (quite an active player for one who contributes so little, H.E.A.R.T.H notes). Weasel comes to Toucan's defense, votes Octopus. However, H.E.A.R.T.H was inclined to trust Weasel for now considering anti-Kanga behavior the first day - although that perspective could change. For reference, on the first day, Weasel added a third accusation to Kanga while there was a two-way tie with four accusation each between Dragonfly and Axolotl. If Toucan were to flip evil, however, H.E.A.R.T.H would find Weasel highly suspicious for their activity on the second day. Toucan also votes Octopus, using Weasel's reasoning. Noteworthy they did not vote Iguana, the other main candidate. @Sunburst Toucan was there a particular reason you found Octopus more suspicious than Iguana? Beagle brings down pressure on Iguana. Ele votes Octopus - but we know Ele is clear (thanks Octo). Octopus votes Toucan. Taupe Gecko (1): Salmon Meerkat Sunburst Toucan (3): Taupe Gecko, Scarlet Octopus, Saffron Iguana Scarlet Octopus (2): Sunburst Toucan, Indigo Weasel Saffron Iguana (1): Mint Heron Plum Rhinoceros (2): Oxblood Beagle, Ivory Dragonfly If Toucan is indeed evil, this was where things should get interesting. H.E.A.R.T.H retracted his vote to accuse Weasel. Zebra gives reads - dislikes Ig, dislikes Toucan, dislikes Octopus, votes Octopus. This would be a reasonable move to protect Ig. Toucan train somewhat falls apart. Toucan says they had no reasoning to vote Axolotl. Axolotl votes Octo. Flamingo voted Octo. Heron voted Octo. Hmmmmmmmmmm Ele votes Octo again. Taupe Gecko (1): Salmon Meerkat Sunburst Toucan (1): Saffron Iguana Scarlet Octopus (6): Violet Axolotl, Sunburst Toucan, Sapphire Elephant, Quartz Zebra, Mint Heron, Indigo Weasel Plum Rhinoceros (2): Oxblood Beagle, Ivory Dragonfly Mint Heron (2): Melon Dingo, Magenta Albatross Melon Dingo (1): Taupe Gecko Magenta Albatross (1): Plum Rhinoceros Indigo Weasel (1): Scarlet Octopus Flamingo retracts Octo vote. Ig switches to Rhino. No matter what they say, looks like self-pres to me. Zebra switches from Octo to Toucan. Dragonfly revives Ig train. H.E.A.R.T.H followed. Dragonfly left it again. Ig train begins to rise again. Ig follows my behest to vote Toucan. Heron votes Toucan as well. Taupe Gecko (1): Salmon Meerkat Scarlet Octopus (4): Violet Axolotl, Sunburst Toucan, Sapphire Elephant, Indigo Weasel Mint Heron (1): Melon Dingo Magenta Albatross (1): Plum Rhinoceros Indigo Weasel (1): Scarlet Octopus Sunburst Toucan (4): Quartz Zebra, Taupe Gecko, Saffron Iguana, Mint Heron Onyx Flamingo (1): Oxblood Beagle Sapphire Elephant (1): Magenta Albatross Saffron Iguana (1): Ivory Dragonfly Dingo votes Iguana. Rhino votes Toucan. Says ambivalent between them and Ig, just wants to break tie with Octo. Taupe Gecko (1): Salmon Meerkat Scarlet Octopus (4): Violet Axolotl, Sunburst Toucan, Sapphire Elephant, Indigo Weasel Indigo Weasel (1): Scarlet Octopus Sunburst Toucan (5) : Quartz Zebra, Saffron Iguana, Mint Heron, Plum Rhinoceros, Taupe Gecko Saffron Iguana (2): Ivory Dragonfly, Melon Dingo Sapphire Elephant (1): Magenta Albatross Beagle votes Iguana. 4/5/3 Albatross votes Ig. 4/5/4 H.E.A.R.T.H removed his vote from Toucan. 4/4/4 Octo votes Toucan in self-pres. 4/5/4 Flamingo votes Iguana to preserve tie. Not evil. 4/5/5 Heron votes Iguana. 4/4/6 ... So that was crazy. Anyways If H.E.A.R.T.H wanted to stand by his stance on the Octo train, that meant a monster among Weasel/Toucan/Zebra/Axolotl/Flamingo. He was willing to soft-clear Weasel, Flamingo, and Axolotl, Flam for their end of day madness, Axolotl for staying as the leading train far too long day 1 and Weasel for day 1 anti-Kanga behavior. That left Toucan and Zebra. H.E.A.R.T.H was willing to kill either. But he was nearly sure there was a monster among the pair. Just thought of something @Quartz Zebra were you online during rollover D2? SUBJECT: Y'all are accusin' me?? H.E.A.R.T.H., you’ve got a real knack for reading the metadata, don’t ya? Looking at the ship’s logs like they’re a holy text. Was I online during the Day 2 rollover? No, that's been the one time I've gotten to sleep on this godforsaken ship! But here’s the thing about being an engineer: I don't go kickin' every pipe that rattles. I was on the Chiji train because the math seemed to lead there, and when I saw the Ophelia-clog starting to form, I shifted my wrench. I didn't jump into the "end-of-day madness" because when three different valves are bursting at once, the worst thing you can do is start turning handles at random. I stayed steady on my read. You call me "active but contributing little"? That’s 'cause I’m busy making sure the Lurcher-lines don't cross and blow us all to the Spiritual Realm! And also, what do you mean Echo? I'm the darned lurcher who saved Zense! If you’re lookin' for a monster, look for the ones who were changing their minds every five minutes to keep the tie alive. I picked my pipe and I stuck to it. Stay safe, and don't touch my doodads -Finch Edited January 11 by Quartz Zebra
Taupe Gecko Posted January 11 Posted January 11 5 minutes ago, Quartz Zebra said: SUBJECT: Y'all are accusin' me?? H.E.A.R.T.H., you’ve got a real knack for reading the metadata, don’t ya? Looking at the ship’s logs like they’re a holy text. Was I online during the Day 2 rollover? No, that's been the one time I've gotten to sleep on this godforsaken ship! But here’s the thing about being an engineer: I don't go kickin' every pipe that rattles. I was on the Chiji train because the math seemed to lead there, and when I saw the Ophelia-clog starting to form, I shifted my wrench. I didn't jump into the "end-of-day madness" because when three different valves are bursting at once, the worst thing you can do is start turning handles at random. I stayed steady on my read. You call me "active but contributing little"? That’s 'cause I’m busy making sure the Lurcher-lines don't cross and blow us all to the Spiritual Realm! I’m looking for the Saboteur that’s gonna sink us in the long-haul—like Toucan—not just whoever’s making the most noise during a tie-break. If you’re lookin' for a monster, look for the ones who were changing their minds every five minutes to keep the tie alive. I picked my pipe and I stuck to it. Stay safe, and don't touch my doodads -Finch Zebra I was the one changing my mind every five minutes The way I see this, flip one of Zebra/Toucan today, if villa, flip the other the next cycle
Onyx Flamingo Posted January 11 Posted January 11 4 minutes ago, Taupe Gecko said: Zebra I was the one changing my mind every five minutes The way I see this, flip one of Zebra/Toucan today, if villa, flip the other the next cycle I'm willing to vote Zebra (I am feeling like they are elim the more I think about it) but I want to wait and see what else happens (and maybe look back at some more Zebra posts)
Quartz Zebra Posted January 11 Posted January 11 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Taupe Gecko said: Zebra I was the one changing my mind every five minutes The way I see this, flip one of Zebra/Toucan today, if villa, flip the other the next cycle SUBJECT: RE: THE IDIOCY OF SCRAPPIN’ THE SHIELD You lot really are lookin' to sink this ship, aren't ya? You're talkin' about 'consolidatin' on me because you're scared of a Lurcher who knows how to hold their own? Listen to the math! If you execute me, you’re handin' the Coinshot a golden ticket to put a hole in Zense or yourself tonight. I’m the only one with a magnetic field strong enough to catch those projectiles! If you think I’m lyin’, then leave me be! If I’m an 'Elim-fake,' the Saboteurs will have to kill me themselves just to stop me from blockin' 'em. If I’m still standin' tomorrow, you’ve got a confirmed shield. If you scrap me now, you’re just clearin' the deck for the monsters. Y'all are makin' a mistake Stay safe, and don't touch my doodads -Finch Edited January 11 by Quartz Zebra
Plum Rhinoceros Posted January 11 Posted January 11 6 hours ago, Oxblood Beagle said: Can you explain more on what the intention of the elims would be in directing Toucan to vote Axo during the night? Yeah, I meant they directed it during the day and Toucan would have checked the doc and hastily voted in he thread without realising it in the night. 2 hours ago, Ivory Dragonfly said: Iguana votes Rhino after a train forms on them. Distancing. Okay so the person they vote for when they had 4 votes, that's not distancing, but the person they vote when there is no pressure and there was an Octo train of 6 votes, that's distancing? 18 minutes ago, Quartz Zebra said: You call me "active but contributing little"? That’s 'cause I’m busy making sure the Lurcher-lines don't cross and blow us all to the Spiritual Realm! And also, what do you mean Echo? I'm the darned lurcher who saved Zense! ????? Help @Violet Axolotl @Ivory Dragonfly
Taupe Gecko Posted January 11 Posted January 11 8 minutes ago, Plum Rhinoceros said: Yeah, I meant they directed it during the day and Toucan would have checked the doc and hastily voted in he thread without realising it in the night. Okay so the person they vote for when they had 4 votes, that's not distancing, but the person they vote when there is no pressure and there was an Octo train of 6 votes, that's distancing? ????? Help @Violet Axolotl @Ivory Dragonfly 28 minutes ago, Quartz Zebra said: You call me "active but contributing little"? That’s 'cause I’m busy making sure the Lurcher-lines don't cross and blow us all to the Spiritual Realm! And also, what do you mean Echo? I'm the darned lurcher who saved Zense! First off: deleting content is frowned upon. If you have something to add, add it at the bottom or make a new post since I’d already posted Second: Did you just claim as a THIRD LURCHER? Third: I was in PMs with Axl and they told me they protected Heron. It’s possible two Lurchers targeted the same target, but still Three Lurchers on one village team sounds very unlikely to me 16 minutes ago, Quartz Zebra said: SUBJECT: RE: THE IDIOCY OF SCRAPPIN’ THE SHIELD You lot really are lookin' to sink this ship, aren't ya? You're talkin' about 'consolidatin' on me because you're scared of a Lurcher who knows how to hold their own? Listen to the math! If you execute me, you’re handin' the Coinshot a golden ticket to put a hole in Zense or yourself tonight. I’m the only one with a magnetic field strong enough to catch those projectiles! If you think I’m lyin’, then leave me be! If I’m an 'Elim-fake,' the Saboteurs will have to kill me themselves just to stop me from blockin' 'em. If I’m still standin' tomorrow, you’ve got a confirmed shield. If you scrap me now, you’re just clearin' the deck for the monsters. Y'all are makin' a mistake Stay safe, and don't touch my doodads -Finch Fourth: Screw your rusting doodads
Quartz Zebra Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Alright then. Exe me. See how much closer to losing it gets you...
Taupe Gecko Posted January 11 Posted January 11 3 minutes ago, Quartz Zebra said: Alright then. Exe me. See how much closer to losing it gets you... Just so you know, your reaction to my suspicion is what is making me more and more convinced your evil I will say I’m pretty sure who you are based off the Recently Browsing tab, and I’m sorry if my accusations came across as aggressive But I’m not budging
Indigo Weasel Posted January 11 Posted January 11 55 minutes ago, Quartz Zebra said: SUBJECT: Y'all are accusin' me?? H.E.A.R.T.H., you’ve got a real knack for reading the metadata, don’t ya? Looking at the ship’s logs like they’re a holy text. Was I online during the Day 2 rollover? No, that's been the one time I've gotten to sleep on this godforsaken ship! But here’s the thing about being an engineer: I don't go kickin' every pipe that rattles. I was on the Chiji train because the math seemed to lead there, and when I saw the Ophelia-clog starting to form, I shifted my wrench. I didn't jump into the "end-of-day madness" because when three different valves are bursting at once, the worst thing you can do is start turning handles at random. I stayed steady on my read. You call me "active but contributing little"? That’s 'cause I’m busy making sure the Lurcher-lines don't cross and blow us all to the Spiritual Realm! And also, what do you mean Echo? I'm the darned lurcher who saved Zense! If you’re lookin' for a monster, look for the ones who were changing their minds every five minutes to keep the tie alive. I picked my pipe and I stuck to it. Stay safe, and don't touch my doodads -Finch So… both Dragonfly and you have now claimed responsibility for that… out of you two, I trust DragonFly more. Quartz Zebra
Onyx Flamingo Posted January 11 Posted January 11 I'm starting to feel like Quartz Zebra is the elim.
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Sunburst Toucan (3): Scarlet Octopus, Quartz Zebra, Melon Dingo Quartz Zebra (5): Taupe Gecko, Oxblood Beagle, Onyx Flamingo, Mint Heron, Indigo Weasel Plum Rhinoceros (3): Sunburst Toucan, Magenta Albatross, Ivory Dragonfly
Taupe Gecko Posted January 11 Posted January 11 11 minutes ago, Indigo Weasel said: So… both Dragonfly and you have now claimed responsibility for that… out of you two, I trust DragonFly more. Quartz Zebra Wait DF? I thought DF was Lurching someone else… ALL LURCHERS, NOW IS THE TIME TO CLARIFY THINGS Although it is worth noting multiple Lurchers can Lurch the same person 1
Indigo Weasel Posted January 11 Posted January 11 6 minutes ago, Taupe Gecko said: Wait DF? I thought DF was Lurching someone else… ALL LURCHERS, NOW IS THE TIME TO CLARIFY THINGS Although it is worth noting multiple Lurchers can Lurch the same person Very true, I kinda forgot that, that may have been a mistake then, but I’ll see.
Quartz Zebra Posted January 11 Posted January 11 SUBJECT: EMERGENCY SHUTDOWN (Final Log of Engineer Finch) Finch lets out a long, weary sigh and sets her wrench down on the console for the last time. She doesn’t look at the mob; she looks at the ship’s vital signs, her expression one of grim acceptance. "Well, you did it. You finally pulled the emergency brake on the only person keepin' the hull together. I’m goin' to the scrap heap, but mark my words: when the lights flicker tonight and there’s no one to catch the coins headin' for the bridge, you’re gonna remember this moment. You’re gonna remember that you scrapped your Lurcher because you were too scared of a little noise in the vents. My flip’s gonna show you exactly what color my soul is—and it ain't Saboteur. @Taupe Gecko, I hope your logic is worth the hole you just put in our defense. To the rest of you: watch @Sunburst Toucan. I’m dyin' for that read, so you better make it count. Keep the engines runnin' if you can. But without an anchor, you’re just floatin' toward the deep dark. The wrench is down. The box is silent. Good luck, you rusted-out idiots. -(For the probably the final time) Finch
Ivory Dragonfly Posted January 11 Posted January 11 (edited) 1 hour ago, Plum Rhinoceros said: Okay so the person they vote for when they had 4 votes, that's not distancing, but the person they vote when there is no pressure and there was an Octo train of 6 votes, that's distancing? Quote My prediction is everyone gets cold feet about Octo at the last minute and switches to me ^ Quartz Zebra Lurcher? Now is the time? Multiple Lurchers... >: (. w Scarlet Octopus... DF was lurching Beagle, Dragonfly. Violet Axolotl lurch person ?. Plum Rhino Quartz Zebra Violet Axolotl Edited January 11 by Ivory Dragonfly
Plum Rhinoceros Posted January 11 Posted January 11 @Quartz Zebra, did you not find it suspicious when Axo claimed Lurcher? You were okay with the possibility of 3 v!Lurchers?
Indigo Weasel Posted January 11 Posted January 11 19 minutes ago, Plum Rhinoceros said: @Quartz Zebra, did you not find it suspicious when Axo claimed Lurcher? You were okay with the possibility of 3 v!Lurchers? 4 actually, I lurched DF last night, and the amount of Lurchers makes me very nervous. It means the Elims probably have a lot of killing power. However, one of us is most likely dying
Quartz Zebra Posted January 11 Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, Indigo Weasel said: 4 actually, I lurched DF last night, and the amount of Lurchers makes me very nervous. It means the Elims probably have a lot of killing power. However, one of us is most likely dying See! Wouldn't that make you want another lurcher? 23 minutes ago, Plum Rhinoceros said: @Quartz Zebra, did you not find it suspicious when Axo claimed Lurcher? You were okay with the possibility of 3 v!Lurchers? I was perfectly fine with it. It just meant the saboteurs have a lot of killing power. Or one of us is lying...
Mint Heron Posted January 11 Posted January 11 3 minutes ago, Indigo Weasel said: 4 actually, I lurched DF last night, and the amount of Lurchers makes me very nervous. It means the Elims probably have a lot of killing power. However, one of us is most likely dying Wtaf did i return to.
Indigo Weasel Posted January 11 Posted January 11 1 minute ago, Mint Heron said: Wtaf did i return to. Two more of us claiming Lurcher. And generally chaos and confusion. I’m honestly reconsidering Octo, because with 3(assuming one of us lurchers is lying) the Elims should have a coinshot. And with 4(if all of us aren’t lying) I’d say it’s needed to balance the teams
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