2 Dawnshards… again.

[Through the Living Shadow he/him]

Okay okay okay

So

I know Dawnshards have been discussed over and over, but I brought something up in a thread and I thought it was significant enough that it needed a thread to itself.

 

The theory:

Microkinetic/Common manifestation of investiture (no I shall not be abbreviating!) stem from the nature of Dawnshards

It’s a pretty common theory now that I see that Ado was shattered twice, and that the intent of the Dawnshards were combined to form 16 unique intents.

I agree with this

Ruin is sometimes pointed to as Change-Change intent, which

i utterly disagree with, given Sigzil and Hoid’s torment.

The Dawnshards I propose are

Move, from Elsecalling (Elsecalling is a very common MoI). This makes sense to me - it would be like, a robot isn’t truly a robot until it moves. Unless it acts, it isn’t really alive.

Break (word I got for this is awkward, but it should be a bit more about becoming independent), from Division (Division is what makes Microkinesis boom boom). This makes sense to me as well - a child is not the same as the parent, and breaks away to their own path. Where change is the following of this path, this would determine the path. Move would be embodying their path.

The order I’m thinking these words would be:

Exist, Break, Change, Move

(Become Something), (Separate [that may be better word choice] from me), (Evolve/Change/Progress), (Live)

So imma expand on this in a spoiler

Spoiler

Imma try to predict combos for each shard. Bear with me, but these are very WiP

1. Devotion: Move, Exist (Move faithful to origin)

2. Dominion: Exist, Change (Exist to change others)

3. Preservation: Exist, Exist (yep)

4. Ruin: Break, Break (not actually sure with this, but ruin is opposite to preservation in some way.)

5. Odium: Move, Break (there was some individualism in the talk about Passion)

6. Cultivation: Change, Exist (or change, exist. I don’t think it would be change change, bc of her obsession with pruning.)

7. Honor: Exist, Move (Put your heart where your mouth is, Move according to how you exist, do what you say you will)

8. Endowment: Change, Break (give gifts, but Warbreaker has this focus on doing it with some individualism)

9. Autonomy: Break, Move (Live your individualism)

10. Ambition: Exist, Break (Distinguish yourself)

11. Invention: Change, Move (Change things, give them life.)

12. Mercy: Break, Exist (“Someone has to take the first step.” Be the first to extend the arm of mercy, to allow the existence of others)

13. Valor: Break, Change (Be brave - turn the tide of battle, do your best to change hopeless circumstances)

14. Whimsy: Move, Move (Live and let live.)

15. Virtuosity: Change, Change (I don’t like this one) [like, at all] {If I had this in chart format I could prolly find a better match}

16. Reason: Move, Change (Act according to your path, act rationally)

 

[Through The Living Ash he/him]

32 minutes ago, Sherma Main said:

Okay okay okay

So

I know Dawnshards have been discussed over and over, but I brought something up in a thread and I thought it was significant enough that it needed a thread to itself.

 

The theory:

Microkinetic/Common manifestation of investiture (no I shall not be abbreviating!) stem from the nature of Dawnshards

It’s a pretty common theory now that I see that Ado was shattered twice, and that the intent of the Dawnshards were combined to form 16 unique intents.

I agree with this

Ruin is sometimes pointed to as Change-Change intent, which

i utterly disagree with, given Sigzil and Hoid’s torment.

The Dawnshards I propose are

Move, from Elsecalling (Elsecalling is a very common MoI). This makes sense to me - it would be like, a robot isn’t truly a robot until it moves. Unless it acts, it isn’t really alive.

Break (word I got for this is awkward, but it should be a bit more about becoming independent), from Division (Division is what makes Microkinesis boom boom). This makes sense to me as well - a child is not the same as the parent, and breaks away to their own path. Where change is the following of this path, this would determine the path. Move would be embodying their path.

The order I’m thinking these words would be:

Exist, Break, Change, Move

(Become Something), (Separate [that may be better word choice] from me), (Evolve/Change/Progress), (Live)

So imma expand on this in a spoiler

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Imma try to predict combos for each shard. Bear with me, but these are very WiP

1. Devotion: Move, Exist (Move faithful to origin)

2. Dominion: Exist, Change (Exist to change others)

3. Preservation: Exist, Exist (yep)

4. Ruin: Break, Break (not actually sure with this, but ruin is opposite to preservation in some way.)

5. Odium: Move, Break (there was some individualism in the talk about Passion)

6. Cultivation: Change, Exist (or change, exist. I don’t think it would be change change, bc of her obsession with pruning.)

7. Honor: Exist, Move (Put your heart where your mouth is, Move according to how you exist, do what you say you will)

8. Endowment: Change, Break (give gifts, but Warbreaker has this focus on doing it with some individualism)

9. Autonomy: Break, Move (Live your individualism)

10. Ambition: Exist, Break (Distinguish yourself)

11. Invention: Change, Move (Change things, give them life.)

12. Mercy: Break, Exist (“Someone has to take the first step.” Be the first to extend the arm of mercy, to allow the existence of others)

13. Valor: Break, Change (Be brave - turn the tide of battle, do your best to change hopeless circumstances)

14. Whimsy: Move, Move (Live and let live.)

15. Virtuosity: Change, Change (I don’t like this one) [like, at all] {If I had this in chart format I could prolly find a better match}

16. Reason: Move, Change (Act according to your path, act rationally)

 

Just popping in on this cause I saw the other one. 

Ado was Shattered twice? Was that an Emberdark spoiler? 

For your chart: 

I feel like Invention is more Change Change than Virtuosity. And Ambition feels like Change Move to me, while Reason feels like Exist Move. 

For Harmony and Retribution, would that mean they are now Exist Exist Break Break and Exist Move Move Break respectively? 

[Through the Living Shadow he/him]

4 minutes ago, Ashkaloda said:

Just popping in on this cause I saw the other one. 

Ado was Shattered twice? Was that an Emberdark spoiler? 

For your chart: 

I feel like Invention is more Change Change than Virtuosity. And Ambition feels like Change Move to me, while Reason feels like Exist Move. 

For Harmony and Retribution, would that mean they are now Exist Exist Break Break and Exist Move Move Break respectively? 

No, it wasn’t. It was a theory a while back that I think actually came from Dawnshard book. Just a theory, not actually confirmed in any way.

btw twice as in two times but one event

Exist Exist Break Break… Exist to Exist while Separating to separate… hmmm

Exist to move and move to separate…

Perhaps, but that ordering of it is very tentative.

Edited November 20, 2025 by Sherma Main

[Through The Living Ash he/him]

1 hour ago, Sherma Main said:

No, it wasn’t. It was a theory a while back that I think actually came from Dawnshard book. Just a theory, not actually confirmed in any way.

btw twice as in two times but one event

Exist Exist Break Break… Exist to Exist while Separating to separate… hmmm

Exist to move and move to separate…

Perhaps, but that ordering of it is very tentative.

idk, that made the most sense to me. You exist before you break. For Retribution, the Oath comes into existense, then it is followed, then it is broken, then you get payback. So I guess that would be more like Exist Move Break Move. 

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11 minutes ago, Ashkaloda said:

idk, that made the most sense to me. You exist before you break. For Retribution, the Oath comes into existense, then it is followed, then it is broken, then you get payback. So I guess that would be more like Exist Move Break Move. 

hhhmmmm...

interesting

 

 

Now, question. Do you prefer "Move" and "Separate" (i think that's better word for it) over previous theories of Emotion Dawnshards?

[Through The Living Ash he/him]

32 minutes ago, Sherma Main said:

hhhmmmm...

interesting

 

 

Now, question. Do you prefer "Move" and "Separate" (i think that's better word for it) over previous theories of Emotion Dawnshards?

I don't know about emotion Dawnshards. I do like the thought of Move being one, it kinda feels right. I've always been sorta partial to an Experience Dawnshard though.