Hi 17th Shard

[Ninety]

I'm Ninety.  I'm currently writing an app for the Cosmere for ios, and I thought there wasn't anyone better than the 17th Shard when it comes to Cosmere knowledge.  So, I signed up and wanted to say hi.  Below is an example of how I'm setting it up.  I'm hoping the experts here might be able to point out some design flaws when it's ready :)

[-ACE- he/him]

1 minute ago, Ninety said:

I'm Ninety.  I'm currently writing an app for the Cosmere for ios, and I thought there wasn't anyone better than the 17th Shard when it comes to Cosmere knowledge.  So, I signed up and wanted to say hi.  Below is an example of how I'm setting it up.  I'm hoping the experts here might be able to point out some design flaws when it's ready

Is this a final, or are you planning on posting it?

Also, Do you want a cookie?

I don't know python, but what do you want to know about the cosmere?

[Ninety]

1 minute ago, -ACE- said:

Is this a final, or are you planning on posting it?

Also, Do you want a cookie?

I don't know python, but what do you want to know about the cosmere?

it's in beta right now, I have the basics of the app finalized (start by selecting the books you have read to avoid spoilers, search only does the books selected, different json files for each book that builds on previous books.) mostly I'm just working on the json files right now (the meat of the books), and then ill change them to remotely hosted (github) and have the app check for newer json files so the content can be updated without updating the app every time.

 

ive been active on Reddit for like... 10 years?  in the sandersubs, so im very familiar with the shard and the coppermind, so I don't have anything Cosmere related that im looking for currently, just wanted to say hi for now.  and of course when it's public you all can yell at me for getting something wrong.

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

26 minutes ago, Ninety said:

I'm Ninety.  I'm currently writing an app for the Cosmere for ios, and I thought there wasn't anyone better than the 17th Shard when it comes to Cosmere knowledge.  So, I signed up and wanted to say hi.  Below is an example of how I'm setting it up.  I'm hoping the experts here might be able to point out some design flaws when it's ready

18 minutes ago, Ninety said:

it's in beta right now, I have the basics of the app finalized (start by selecting the books you have read to avoid spoilers, search only does the books selected, different json files for each book that builds on previous books.) mostly I'm just working on the json files right now (the meat of the books), and then ill change them to remotely hosted (github) and have the app check for newer json files so the content can be updated without updating the app every time.

 

ive been active on Reddit for like... 10 years?  in the sandersubs, so im very familiar with the shard and the coppermind, so I don't have anything Cosmere related that im looking for currently, just wanted to say hi for now.  and of course when it's public you all can yell at me for getting something wrong.

*cough cough*

https://17thshard.github.io/reading-order/#/?layer=pub-status&connections=all&appearances=none&categories=all

Uhhhh

Hi!

Yeah, Do you want a Cookie?

[-ACE- he/him]

18 hours ago, Ninety said:

it's in beta right now, I have the basics of the app finalized (start by selecting the books you have read to avoid spoilers, search only does the books selected, different json files for each book that builds on previous books.) mostly I'm just working on the json files right now (the meat of the books), and then ill change them to remotely hosted (github) and have the app check for newer json files so the content can be updated without updating the app every time.

 

ive been active on Reddit for like... 10 years?  in the sandersubs, so im very familiar with the shard and the coppermind, so I don't have anything Cosmere related that im looking for currently, just wanted to say hi for now.  and of course when it's public you all can yell at me for getting something wrong.

Ok. I will make sure to yell at you. 

Also, I don't know the specifics, but I think you need permission to create a website about copyrighted material. ask @Chaos about that.

Spoiler

Yes. I just summoned him. 

No. I'm not sorry.

 

[Ninety]

18 hours ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

*cough cough*

https://17thshard.github.io/reading-order/#/?layer=pub-status&connections=all&appearances=none&categories=all

Uhhhh

Hi!

Yeah, Do you want a Cookie?

As long as it’s not a no-bake cookie… sure!

10 minutes ago, -ACE- said:

Ok. I will make sure to yell at you. 

Also, I don't know the specifics, but I think you need permission to create a website about copyrighted material. ask @Chaos about that.

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Yes. I just summoned him. 

No. I'm not sorry.

 

Actually the 17th Shard already cleared the way for that.  The Creative Commons license that is here allows for anyone to now use it.  Kind of like how fandom dot com has a direct copy of the coppermind.

[-ACE- he/him]

12 minutes ago, Ninety said:

As long as it’s not a no-bake cookie… sure!

Actually the 17th Shard already cleared the way for that.  The Creative Commons license that is here allows for anyone to now use it.  Kind of like how fandom dot com has a direct copy of the coppermind.

Woah. I had no idea.

Cool. I look forward to seeing ur app.

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

1 hour ago, Ninety said:

As long as it’s not a no-bake cookie… sure!

Actually the 17th Shard already cleared the way for that.  The Creative Commons license that is here allows for anyone to now use it.  Kind of like how fandom dot com has a direct copy of the coppermind.

Just say you ate it. It is a no-bake cookie.

[Chaos he/him]

2 hours ago, Ninety said:

Actually the 17th Shard already cleared the way for that.  The Creative Commons license that is here allows for anyone to now use it.  Kind of like how fandom dot com has a direct copy of the coppermind.

That is not correct; I believe you are mistaken because there are a variety of CC licenses. The Coppermind's does not allow for derivative works without permission. The Stormlight wiki on Fandom should not be a copy of our work. Are you saying that in a literal sense, or a more broad sense? I can and have successfully DMCA'd Fandom for the Stormlight wiki's admin copying our text verbatim. That admin is well aware at this stage and should know better.

So, if you would like to gain permission, we can talk. But you do not by default have our consent and blessing to do this. We have definitely said no to amateur developers in the past. 

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start by selecting the books you have read to avoid spoilers, search only does the books selected

...How? Like, what do you do for core cosmere articles that are synthesizing many, many different books? Are you going off the references, I guess, and removing lines that have a specific reference to a specific book? 

Edited November 11, 2025 by Chaos

[you you]

9 hours ago, Chaos said:

That is not correct; I believe you are mistaken because there are a variety of CC licenses. The Coppermind's does not allow for derivative works without permission. The Stormlight wiki on Fandom should not be a copy of our work. Are you saying that in a literal sense, or a more broad sense? I can and have successfully DMCA'd Fandom for the Stormlight wiki's admin copying our text verbatim. That admin is well aware at this stage and should know better.

So, if you would like to gain permission, we can talk. But you do not by default have our consent and blessing to do this. We have definitely said no to amateur developers in the past. 

Edit to add:

...How? Like, what do you do for core cosmere articles that are synthesizing many, many different books? Are you going off the references, I guess, and removing lines that have a specific reference to a specific book? 

Wow Chaos has been on since 2010 and he's still active :0

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

10 minutes ago, you said:

Wow Chaos has been on since 2010 and he's still active :0

Hes a mod. (And the head one, at that)

Edited November 12, 2025 by CoderDrag0n8

[Chaos he/him]

59 minutes ago, you said:

Wow Chaos has been on since 2010 and he's still active :0

I made the website, friend.  

(Though "active" has varied meaning... I have been far more active on Discord since we made that server around OB times, as have many others.)

[Ninety]

22 hours ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

Just say you ate it. It is a no-bake cookie.

Ugh.  *proceeds to drink a liter of water*  that was such a good cookie.  

 

21 hours ago, Chaos said:

That is not correct; I believe you are mistaken because there are a variety of CC licenses. The Coppermind's does not allow for derivative works without permission. The Stormlight wiki on Fandom should not be a copy of our work. Are you saying that in a literal sense, or a more broad sense? I can and have successfully DMCA'd Fandom for the Stormlight wiki's admin copying our text verbatim. That admin is well aware at this stage and should know better.

So, if you would like to gain permission, we can talk. But you do not by default have our consent and blessing to do this. We have definitely said no to amateur developers in the past. 

Edit to add:

...How? Like, what do you do for core cosmere articles that are synthesizing many, many different books? Are you going off the references, I guess, and removing lines that have a specific reference to a specific book? 

you are right, I don't know CC licenses.  And of course I'm not copying the coppermind verbatim.  More of just using Sanderson's work in a CC license (since as far as im aware, as soon as they allow a CC license, they can't restrict who can then make the material, again just as far as I'm aware)

 

also, it's been a little bit, but yes fandom was a straight 1:1 last time I looked.  (I have no looked recently as of posting this)

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

14 minutes ago, Ninety said:

Ugh.  *proceeds to drink a liter of water*  that was such a good cookie.  

 

you are right, I don't know CC licenses.  And of course I'm not copying the coppermind verbatim.  More of just using Sanderson's work in a CC license (since as far as im aware, as soon as they allow a CC license, they can't restrict who can then make the material, again just as far as I'm aware)

 

also, it's been a little bit, but yes fandom was a straight 1:1 last time I looked.  (I have no looked recently as of posting this)

It was spiked  with hemalurgic spikes

[-ACE- he/him]

22 hours ago, Chaos said:

That is not correct; I believe you are mistaken because there are a variety of CC licenses. The Coppermind's does not allow for derivative works without permission. The Stormlight wiki on Fandom should not be a copy of our work. Are you saying that in a literal sense, or a more broad sense? I can and have successfully DMCA'd Fandom for the Stormlight wiki's admin copying our text verbatim. That admin is well aware at this stage and should know better.

So, if you would like to gain permission, we can talk. But you do not by default have our consent and blessing to do this. We have definitely said no to amateur developers in the past. 

Edit to add:

...How? Like, what do you do for core cosmere articles that are synthesizing many, many different books? Are you going off the references, I guess, and removing lines that have a specific reference to a specific book? 

 

1 hour ago, Ninety said:

Ugh.  *proceeds to drink a liter of water*  that was such a good cookie.  

 

you are right, I don't know CC licenses.  And of course I'm not copying the coppermind verbatim.  More of just using Sanderson's work in a CC license (since as far as im aware, as soon as they allow a CC license, they can't restrict who can then make the material, again just as far as I'm aware)

 

also, it's been a little bit, but yes fandom was a straight 1:1 last time I looked.  (I have no looked recently as of posting this)

Good thing I summoned him 

[Ninety]

1 hour ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

It was spiked  with hemalurgic spikes

Yay, I can blame my typos on Ruin!  He made me do it!

[Keke They/he]

Hellooo fren! 

Other then the seemingly kaos that has happened so far 

how is your day!?

Edited November 12, 2025 by Hawks

[Vielence She/Her]

On 11/11/2025 at 10:08 AM, -ACE- said:

Ok. I will make sure to yell at you. 

Also, I don't know the specifics, but I think you need permission to create a website about copyrighted material. ask @Chaos about that.

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Yes. I just summoned him. 

No. I'm not sorry.

 

You… have no sense of self preservation

3 hours ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

It was spiked  with hemalurgic spikes

Yeah. @Ninety NEVER eat the cookies. 
 

Also: Hi! Welcome to the CHAOS! 
(yes all caps) 

Whats your weirdest trait? 

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

16 hours ago, Chaos said:

I made the website, friend.  

(Though "active" has varied meaning... I have been far more active on Discord since we made that server around OB times, as have many others.)

I didn’t know you made the website that’s super cool

[Chaos he/him]

12 hours ago, Ninety said:

Ugh.  *proceeds to drink a liter of water*  that was such a good cookie.  

 

you are right, I don't know CC licenses.  And of course I'm not copying the coppermind verbatim.  More of just using Sanderson's work in a CC license (since as far as im aware, as soon as they allow a CC license, they can't restrict who can then make the material, again just as far as I'm aware)

 

also, it's been a little bit, but yes fandom was a straight 1:1 last time I looked.  (I have no looked recently as of posting this)

You are certainly more than welcome to write your own wiki text for this project. Best of luck; the Coppermind has taken fifteen years to get to this stage. You do not have permission to use the Coppermind text for this purpose, though again, we could potentially discuss that. (In particular, we viciously prevent LLMs from taking the text, as best we can.)

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More of just using Sanderson's work in a CC license (since as far as im aware, as soon as they allow a CC license, they can't restrict who can then make the material, again just as far as I'm aware)

What are you talking about? Who is writing the text you are putting in, specifically? A LLM? 

I'm not sure you're aware of the specifics of this, and you probably should look into it. 

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also, it's been a little bit, but yes fandom was a straight 1:1 last time I looked.  (I have no looked recently as of posting this)

PM me which pages are as such. I looked at several pages on the Coppermind and ours are significantly more in-depth than Stormlight Fandom. If there is copying, I want to know. I will DMCA them again of copied material, if necessary.