Tones of Shards (WaT spoilers)

[Through the Living Wrath he/him]

Okay

Sound is very important in Stormlight, and Navani unkeys Light by putting in a vacuum.

In WaT, they mention that every Shard has a tone - even going so far as to say that it’s linked to their intent.

Could you unkey other forms of investiture similarly?

If you can, what about Breaths or Spiritwebs?

[Argenti he/him]

6 hours ago, SpiritOfWrath said:

Okay

Sound is very important in Stormlight, and Navani unkeys Light by putting in a vacuum.

In WaT, they mention that every Shard has a tone - even going so far as to say that it’s linked to their intent.

Could you unkey other forms of investiture similarly?

If you can, what about Breaths or Spiritwebs?

I think the issue with spiritwbs or spren is that they have their own identity and personality - while breaths have some of this, it's not nearly as strong. It's like burning a shardblade- you need to divorce the metal from the idea of the shardblade. So for a spren or spiritweb, you'd need to isolate them, not only from their shard, but also from their own mind. 

So I don't think you could unkey anything with a spiritweb or sentience. You could unmake them, but that's more like having the change forced on you.

[Through The Living Ash he/him]

2 hours ago, SpiritOfWrath said:

Okay

Sound is very important in Stormlight, and Navani unkeys Light by putting in a vacuum.

In WaT, they mention that every Shard has a tone - even going so far as to say that it’s linked to their intent.

Could you unkey other forms of investiture similarly?

If you can, what about Breaths or Spiritwebs?

Breaths and other forms of Investiture, I would think yes, although the procedure may vary. A spiritweb is not made of Investiture but Connections through which Investiture may travel, so that should not work. Maybe you could unkey all of the Investiture in a person's spiritweb. 

[Through the Living Wrath he/him]

10 minutes ago, Ashkaloda said:

Breaths and other forms of Investiture, I would think yes, although the procedure may vary. A spiritweb is not made of Investiture but Connections through which Investiture may travel, so that should not work. Maybe you could unkey all of the Investiture in a person's spiritweb. 

I was thinking more with spiritwebs the invested spiritweb

[Through The Living Ash he/him]

3 minutes ago, SpiritOfWrath said:

I was thinking more with spiritwebs the invested spiritweb

If you truly need to put the Investiture in a vacuum to unkey it no matter how it manifests, that seems very tricky to do. Likely you would have to draw all of your Investiture out of the Spiritual first. 

[Through the Living Wrath he/him]

3 minutes ago, Ashkaloda said:

If you truly need to put the Investiture in a vacuum to unkey it no matter how it manifests, that seems very tricky to do. Likely you would have to draw all of your Investiture out of the Spiritual first. 

Um

yeah

I typed that out and sent it

even though my thought was incomplete

*sigh*
now I’ve lost it

I do agree with you tho

[Through the Living Wrath he/him]

5 minutes ago, Argenti said:

I think the issue with spiritwbs or spren is that they have their own identity and personality - while breaths have some of this, it's not nearly as strong. It's like burning a shardblade- you need to divorce the metal from the idea of the shardblade. So for a spren or spiritweb, you'd need to isolate them, not only from their shard, but also from their own mind. 

So I don't think you could unkey anything with a spiritweb or sentience. You could unmake them, but that's more like having the change forced on you.

Hhmm.

Would it (spren) be easier if they were under the effects of a suppression fabrial then? Thinking bout how Syl was in RoW

[Argenti he/him]

1 minute ago, SpiritOfWrath said:

Hhmm.

Would it (spren) be easier if they were under the effects of a suppression fabrial then? Thinking bout how Syl was in RoW

I mean, probably? The less self-aware it is, the easier it would be to unmake. I don't think you could unkey a spren, no matter how dumb you make them, even a lesser spren has a coherent form divorced from the ideals of honor.