Cadmium Misting LifeSpan

[Denissimo He/him]

So, during Era 2, Cadmium Mistings (Pulsers) are indeed a thing.
They are also seen to be able slow down time, in a small bubble around them;
Do they age slower when they do so?
Furthermore, Era 2 Pulsers have diluted powers; what if an era 1 misting/mistborn (e.g. Kelsier, Vin) had burned cadmium? Even in Era 2, Pulsers and Sliders seem very powerful, so in Era 1, what would the effects be like?
WHAT IF THE LORD RULER HAD CADMIUM AND/OR BENDALLOY?

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

Wayne's bubbles were roughly 2 mins compressed into 15 sec, if I remember correctly. So if cadmium is the exact opposite, with a constant supply of cadmium, a pulser with a lifespan of 80 years could live for 640 years. However, I don't think it's that extreme.

[Denissimo He/him]

What about if Rashek had had Cadmium and Bendalloy when he fought Vin?
Would it have provided a supreme advantage? Could he have survived? 

2 minutes ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren said:

Wayne's bubbles were roughly 2 mins compressed into 15 sec, if I remember correctly. So if cadmium is the exact opposite, with a constant supply of cadmium, a pulser with a lifespan of 80 years could live for 640 years. However, I don't think it's that extreme.

 

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

7 minutes ago, Denisimo said:

What about if Rashek had had Cadmium and Bendalloy when he fought Vin?
Would it have provided a supreme advantage? Could he have survived? 

 

Rashek wouldn't've, as he didn't expect Vin to kill him until he was already dying.

He couldn't have survived. It's just the way.

[Denissimo He/him]

3 minutes ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren said:

Rashek wouldn't've, as he didn't expect Vin to kill him until he was already dying.

He couldn't have survived. It's just the way.

Thanks for the clarification.

[Treamayne]

On 6/12/2025 at 2:03 AM, Denisimo said:

WHAT IF THE LORD RULER HAD CADMIUM AND/OR BENDALLOY?

 

On 6/12/2025 at 5:20 AM, Denisimo said:

What about if Rashek had had Cadmium and Bendalloy when he fought Vin?
Would it have provided a supreme advantage? Could he have survived? 

Cadmium and Bendalloy were not metals Rashek could burn. Preservation had to remove the external pulling and pushing metals to add Atium and Malatium to Allomancy and preserve his "sign of 16." Even if Rashek had flakes of either metal, they were not allomantically viable until harmony fixed the changes Preservation had made to make for his plan to defeat Ruin to work. 

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Are Atium and the External Temporal Pulling metal really the same?

Brandon Sanderson

You are on to something. 

Hero of Ages Q&A - Time Waster's Guide (Oct. 15, 2008)

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I saw Brandon at a book signing back in mid-December, and I asked him about the 16 percent deal. He said that Preservation replaced the real External Temporal Metals with atium and malatium (at least I'm assuming malatium, but he didn't mention that specifically. He only said atium). So not-cerrobend and cadmium weren't counted in the 16%. nicrosil and chromium, on the other hand, were. So there are chromium andnicrosil Mistings running around, not knowing that they're Mistings.

TWG Posts (Jan. 20, 2009)

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Hemalurgically, atium steals Allomantic Temporal Powers. But, that seems unlikely, since atium is a god metal. It wouldn't fit in with the rest of the magic system. Did Preservation, in addition to switching cadmium and bendalloy for atium and malatium, also switch atium's Feruchemical and Hemalurgic powers with cadmium? Because it seems to me there's not a lot of atium Marsh can use to live for hundreds of years into the next Mistborn trilogy.

Brandon Sanderson

Preservation wanted atium and malatium to be of use to the people, as he recognized that it would be a very powerful tool—and that using it up could help defeat Ruin. But he also recognized that sixteen was a mythological important number, and felt it would make the best sign for his followers. So he took out the most unlikely (difficult to make and use) metals for his sign to his followers. But that doesn't have much to do with Hemalurgy's use here.

Remember that the tables—and the ars Arcanum—are 'in world' creations. (Or, at least, in-universe.) The knowledge represented in them is as people understand it, and can always have flaws. That was the case with having atium on the table in the first place, and that was the case with people (specifically the Inquisitors) trying to figure out what atium did Hemalurgically.

Their experiments (very expensive ones) are what determined that atium (which they thought was just one of the sixteen metals) granted the Allomantic Temporal powers. What they didn't realize is that atium (used correctly) could steal ANY of the powers. Think of it as a wild card. With the right knowledge, you could use it to mimic any other spike. It works far better than other spikes as well.

As for Marsh, he's got a whole bag of atium (taken off of the Kandra who was going to try to sell it.) So he's all right for quite a while. A small bead used right can reverse age someone back to their childhood.

But this was a little beyond their magical understanding at the time.

Barnes and Noble Book Club Q&A (July 8, 2009)

 

Hope that helps

Edited June 18, 2025 by Treamayne
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[Denissimo He/him]

1 hour ago, Treamayne said:

 

Cadmium and Bendalloy were not metals Rashek could burn. Preservation had to remove the external pulling and pushing metals to add Atium and Malatium to Allomancy and preserve his "sign of 16." Even if Rashek had flakes of either metal, they were not allomantically viable until harmony fixed the changes Preservation had made to make ihis plan to defeat Ruin work. 

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Hope that helps

Thank you! I didn't realise it tied into Leras's plan like that.