mike.the.monk Posted May 20, 2025 Posted May 20, 2025 (edited) A friend of mine took the quiz and got Willshaper and Lightweaver as his top two, but those were my bottom two. It got me wondering whether those two Orders are inherently closer or if they happened to be so. (by the way, the answer is inherently closer) So, in typical Truthwatcher fashion, I made it into a spreadsheet to answer the question - how similar is the ideal Windrunner to the ideal Skybreaker, and so on for the other combinations? (ideal = getting 100% alignment with that Order on the quiz) Results are below, sorted by order. As a follow up, I wanted to know which questions were the biggest distinguishing factors between each pair of Orders. For example, my top two are Truthwatcher and Skybreaker. Skybreaker is the second-most similar to Truthwatcher, and the differences between the two are driven by the following questions: confident vs. needs reassurance, wolf pack vs. lone wolf, leader vs. facilitator, book smart vs. street smart, competitive vs casual. Methodology, for anyone who wants to know exactly what I did. I put in the ideal answer for each Order for each question (e.g. the ideal Windrunner is a 35 out of 100 on heart on sleeve versus poker face, meaning closer to heart on sleeve). for each question, I calculated the distance between the ideal Windrunner vs ideal Skybreaker answers, and same for the other combinations of orders. I squared those distances, just like the quiz does I summed those squared distances. I did NOT adjust the Bondsmith sum by an additional 30% because I was uninterested in doing so. I divided the sum by 120,000 and multiplied by 100, just like the quiz does. smaller numbers mean two Orders are similar. Here are some Orders that tend to cluster together (they are mutually similar): Windrunner / Edgedancer / Bondsmith Windrunner / Skybreaker / Stonewarden Skybreaker / Truthwatcher / Elsecaller Dustbringer / Lightweaver / Willshaper The following Orders are close, starting with the closest: Edgedancer vs. Bondsmith Windrunner vs. Bondsmith Lightweaver vs. Willshaper Windrunner vs. Edgedancer Windrunner vs. Stonewarden Windrunner vs. Skybreaker Skybreaker vs. Stonewarden Dustbringer vs. Willshaper Dustbringer vs. Lightweaver The following Orders are far away, beginning with the furthest away: Dustbringer vs. Truthwatcher Skybreaker vs. Lightweaver Dustbringer vs. Edgedancer Dustbringer vs. Elsecaller Truthwatcher vs. Stonewarden Lightweaver vs. Elsecaller Dustbringer vs. Bondsmith Truthwatcher vs. Lightweaver Skybreaker vs. Dustbringer Windrunner Most similar to Bondsmith, Edgedancer, Stonewarden, Skybreaker Least similar to Dustbringer, Elsecaller, Lightweaver, Truthwatcher Moderately similar: Willshaper Which questions show the most difference between the two Orders? (basically, these questions are what distinguish the two). These start with the largest-difference questions, and the Orders begin with the most similar. Bondsmith - library vs dojo, likes to take things apart vs if it ain't broke don't fix it, creative vs conventional, hotel vs camping, tense vs relaxed, spiritual vs skeptical, down to earth vs head in clouds Edgedancer - down to earth vs head in clouds, hotel vs camping, decisive vs indecisive, creative vs conventional Stonewarden - down to earth vs head in clouds, competitive vs casual, peacemaker vs firebrand, fencing vs boxing, paladin vs rogue, likes change vs likes stability, transparency vs need-to-know Skybreaker - compassionate vs dispassionate, thinks outside the box vs collars inside the lines, letter of the law vs spirit of the law, heart vs head Willshaper - paladin vs rogue, obedient vs rebellious, decisive vs indecisive, guard dog vs alley cat, likes change vs likes stability Truthwatcher - leader vs facilitator, decisive vs indecisive, library vs dojo, book smart vs street smart, confident vs needs reassurance, wolf pack vs lone wolf, heart vs head Lightweaver - decisive vs indecisive, guard dog vs alley cat, tells the truth vs bends the truth, creative vs conventional, paladin vs rogue Elsecaller - wolf pack vs lone wolf, end justifies the means vs honorable actions, paladin vs rogue, library vs dojo, compassionate vs dispassionate, heart on sleeve vs poker face Dustbringer - paladin vs rogue, peacemaker vs firebrand, dependable vs flexible, guard dog vs alley cat, obedient vs rebellious, fencing vs boxing, likes to take things apart vs if it ain't broke don't fix it Skybreaker Most similar to Windrunner, Stonewarden Least similar to Lightweaver, Dustbringer, Willshaper, Edgedancer Moderately similar: Elsecaller, Bondsmith, Truthwatcher Which questions show the most difference between the two Orders? (basically, these questions are what distinguish the two). These start with the largest-difference questions, and the Orders begin with the most similar. Windrunner - compassionate vs dispassionate, thinks outside the box vs collars inside the lines, letter of the law vs spirit of the law, heart vs head Stonewarden - thinks outside the box vs. colors inside the lines, hotel vs. camping, down to earth vs. head in the clouds Elsecaller - wolf pack vs. lone wolf, thinks outside the box vs. colors inside the lines, end justifies the means vs. honorable actions, letter of the law vs. spirit of the law, paladin vs rogue, down to earth vs head in the clouds, likes change vs likes stability Bondsmith - thinks outside the box vs. colors inside the lines, spiritual vs. skeptical, compassionate vs. dispassionate, heart vs. head, letter of the law vs. spirit of the law, likes to take things apart vs. if it ain't broke don't fix it, artistic vs scientific, creative vs conventional, tense vs relaxed Truthwatcher - confident vs. needs reassurance, wolf pack vs. lone wolf, leader vs. facilitator, book smart vs. street smart, competitive vs casual Edgedancer - compassionate vs. dispassionate, heart vs. head, letter of the law vs. spirit of the law, competitive vs. casual, down to earth vs. head in the clouds, spiritual vs skeptical Willshaper - letter of the law vs. spirit of the law, obedient vs. rebellious, thinks outside the box vs. colors inside the lines, paladin vs. rogue Dustbringer - likes to take things apart vs. if it ain't broke don't fix it, paladin vs. rogue, dependable vs. flexible, obedient vs. rebellious, heart vs. head, planner vs. spontaneous Lightweaver - letter of the law vs. spirit of the law, creative vs. conventional, heart vs. head, guard dog vs. alley cat, compassionate vs. dispassionate, heart on sleeve vs. poker face, decisive vs. indecisive, artistic vs. scientific, obedient vs. rebellious, likes to take things apart vs if it ain't broke don't fix it, dependable vs flexible Dustbringer Most similar to Willshaper, Lightweaver, Stonewarden Least similar to Truthwatcher, Edgedancer, Elsecaller, Bondsmith Moderately similar: Windrunner, Skybreaker Which questions show the most difference between the two Orders? (basically, these questions are what distinguish the two). These start with the largest-difference questions, and the Orders begin with the most similar. Willshaper - likes to take things apart vs. if it ain't broke don't fix it, letter of the law vs. spirit of the law, free-spirited vs. disciplined Lightweaver - decisive vs. indecisive, free-spirited vs. disciplined, fencing vs. boxing Stonewarden - dependable vs. flexible, obedient vs. rebellious, likes to take things apart vs. if it ain't broke don't fix it, thinks outside the box vs. colors inside the lines, guard dog vs. alley cat, planner vs. spontaneous Windrunner - paladin vs rogue, peacemaker vs firebrand, dependable vs flexible, guard dog vs alley cat, obedient vs rebellious, fencing vs boxing, likes to take things apart vs if it ain't broke don't fix it Skybreaker - likes to take things apart vs. if it ain't broke don't fix it, paladin vs. rogue, dependable vs. flexible, obedient vs. rebellious, heart vs. head, planner vs. spontaneous Bondsmith - peacemaker vs. firebrand, dependable vs. flexible, obedient vs. rebellious, paladin vs. rogue, fencing vs. boxing Elsecaller - cautious vs. daring, fencing vs. boxing, likes to take things apart vs. if it ain't broke don't fix it, dependable vs. flexible, planner vs. spontaneous, library vs. dojo, heart on sleeve vs. poker face, flamboyant vs. reserved, heart vs. head Edgedancer - fencing vs. boxing, peacemaker vs. firebrand, obedient vs. rebellious, paladin vs. rogue, dependable vs. flexible, cautious vs. daring, competitive vs. casual, guard dog vs. alley cat Truthwatcher - confident vs. needs reassurance, flamboyant vs. reserved, cautious vs. daring, library vs. dojo, heart vs. head, likes to take things apart vs. if it ain't broke don't fix it, book smart vs. street smart, leader vs. facilitator Edgedancer Most similar to Bondsmith, Windrunner Least similar to Dustbringer, Willshaper, Elsecaller, Skybreaker Moderately similar: Truthwatcher, Lightweaver, Stonewarden Which questions show the most difference between the two Orders? (basically, these questions are what distinguish the two). These start with the largest-difference questions, and the Orders begin with the most similar. Bondsmith - cautious vs. daring, heart on sleeve vs. poker face, decisive vs. indecisive Windrunner - down to earth vs head in clouds, hotel vs camping, decisive vs indecisive, creative vs conventional Truthwatcher - down to earth vs. head in the clouds, heart vs. head, spiritual vs. skeptical Lightweaver - tells the truth vs. bends the truth, down to earth vs. head in the clouds, guard dog vs. alley cat, obedient vs. rebellious Stonewarden - hotel vs. camping, competitive vs. casual, creative vs. conventional, fencing vs. boxing Skybreaker - compassionate vs. dispassionate, heart vs. head, letter of the law vs. spirit of the law, competitive vs. casual, down to earth vs. head in the clouds, spiritual vs skeptical Elsecaller - end justifies the means vs. honorable actions, heart vs. head, heart on sleeve vs. poker face, competitive vs. casual, compassionate vs. dispassionate, artistic vs. scientific, wolf pack vs. lone wolf, spiritual vs. skeptical, paladin vs. rogue Willshaper - obedient vs. rebellious, down to earth vs. head in the clouds, hotel vs. camping, paladin vs. rogue, competitive vs. casual Dustbringer - fencing vs. boxing, peacemaker vs. firebrand, obedient vs. rebellious, paladin vs. rogue, dependable vs. flexible, cautious vs. daring, competitive vs. casual, guard dog vs. alley cat Truthwatcher Most similar to Elsecaller, Skybreaker, Windrunner, Edgedancer Least similar to Dustbringer, Stonewarden, Lightweaver Moderately similar: Willshaper, Bondsmith Which questions show the most difference between the two Orders? (basically, these questions are what distinguish the two). These start with the largest-difference questions, and the Orders begin with the most similar. Elsecaller - down to earth vs. head in the clouds, confident vs. needs reassurance, leader vs. facilitator, decisive vs. indecisive, competitive vs. casual, likes change vs. likes stability, tells the truth vs. bends the truth Skybreaker - confident vs. needs reassurance, wolf pack vs. lone wolf, leader vs. facilitator, book smart vs. street smart, competitive vs casual Windrunner - leader vs facilitator, decisive vs indecisive, library vs dojo, book smart vs street smart, confident vs needs reassurance, wolf pack vs lone wolf, heart vs head Edgedancer - down to earth vs. head in the clouds, heart vs. head, spiritual vs. skeptical Willshaper - flamboyant vs. reserved, leader vs. facilitator, heart vs. head, confident vs. needs reassurance, likes change vs. likes stability Bondsmith - leader vs. facilitator, heart vs. head, spiritual vs. skeptical, book smart vs. street smart, confident vs. needs reassurance, down to earth vs. head in the clouds, decisive vs. indecisive Lightweaver - heart vs. head, tells the truth vs. bends the truth, artistic vs. scientific, heart on sleeve vs. poker face, confident vs. needs reassurance, cautious vs. daring, transparency vs. need-to-know Stonewarden - book smart vs. street smart, down to earth vs. head in the clouds, confident vs. needs reassurance, competitive vs. casual, library vs. dojo, decisive vs. indecisive, transparency vs. need-to-know Dustbringer - confident vs. needs reassurance, flamboyant vs. reserved, cautious vs. daring, library vs. dojo, heart vs. head, likes to take things apart vs. if it ain't broke don't fix it, book smart vs. street smart Lightweaver Most similar to Willshaper, Dustbringer Least similar to Skybreaker, Elsecaller, Truthwatcher, Stonewarden Moderately similar: Windrunner, Edgedancer, Bondsmith Which questions show the most difference between the two Orders? (basically, these questions are what distinguish the two). These start with the largest-difference questions, and the Orders begin with the most similar. Willshaper - likes to take things apart vs. if it ain't broke don't fix it, artistic vs. scientific, transparency vs. need-to-know Dustbringer - decisive vs. indecisive, free-spirited vs. disciplined, fencing vs. boxing, Windrunner - decisive vs indecisive, guard dog vs alley cat, tells the truth vs bends the truth, creative vs conventional, paladin vs rogue Edgedancer - tells the truth vs. bends the truth, down to earth vs. head in the clouds, guard dog vs. alley cat, obedient vs. rebellious Bondsmith - tells the truth vs bends the truth, decisive vs indecisive, obedient vs rebellious, guard dog vs alley cat, transparency vs need-to-know, heart on sleeve vs poker face, dependable vs. flexible Stonewarden - creative vs conventional, decisive vs indecisive, dependable vs flexible, artistic vs scientific, guard dog vs alley cat, down to earth vs head in the clouds Truthwatcher - heart vs. head, tells the truth vs. bends the truth, artistic vs. scientific, heart on sleeve vs. poker face, confident vs. needs reassurance, cautious vs. daring, transparency vs. need-to-know Elsecaller - artistic vs. scientific, heart on sleeve vs. poker face, cautious vs. daring, decisive vs. indecisive, planner vs. spontaneous, down to earth vs. head in the clouds Skybreaker - letter of the law vs. spirit of the law, creative vs. conventional, heart vs. head, guard dog vs. alley cat, compassionate vs. dispassionate, heart on sleeve vs. poker face, decisive vs. indecisive, artistic vs. scientific, obedient vs. rebellious, likes to take things apart vs if it ain't broke don't fix it, dependable vs flexible Elsecaller Most similar to Skybreaker, Truthwatcher, Stonewarden, Willshaper Least similar to Dustbringer, Lightweaver, Edgedancer Moderately similar: Bondsmith, Windrunner Which questions show the most difference between the two Orders? (basically, these questions are what distinguish the two). These start with the largest-difference questions, and the Orders begin with the most similar. Skybreaker - wolf pack vs. lone wolf, thinks outside the box vs. colors inside the lines, end justifies the means vs. honorable actions, letter of the law vs. spirit of the law, paladin vs rogue, down to earth vs head in the clouds, likes change vs likes stability Truthwatcher - down to earth vs. head in the clouds, confident vs. needs reassurance, leader vs. facilitator, decisive vs. indecisive, competitive vs. casual, likes change vs. likes stability, tells the truth vs. bends the truth Stonewarden - hotel vs camping, library vs dojo, wolf pack vs lone wolf, cautious vs daring, creative vs conventional, end justifies the means vs honorable actions, fencing vs boxing Willshaper - flamboyant vs reserved, down to earth vs head in the clouds, hotel vs camping, planner vs spontaneous, fencing vs boxing, heart vs head, heart on sleeve vs poker face, cautious vs daring, artistic vs. scientific, free-spirited vs. disciplined Bondsmith - end justifies the means vs honorable actions, artistic vs scientific, cautious vs daring, wolf pack vs lone wolf, spiritual vs skeptical, heart vs head, likes change vs likes stability, likes change vs. likes stability, tells the truth vs. bends the truth Windrunner - wolf pack vs lone wolf, end justifies the means vs honorable actions, paladin vs rogue, library vs dojo, compassionate vs dispassionate, heart on sleeve vs poker face Edgedancer - end justifies the means vs. honorable actions, heart vs. head, heart on sleeve vs. poker face, competitive vs. casual, compassionate vs. dispassionate, artistic vs. scientific, wolf pack vs. lone wolf, spiritual vs. skeptical, paladin vs. rogue Lightweaver - artistic vs. scientific, heart on sleeve vs. poker face, cautious vs. daring, decisive vs. indecisive, planner vs. spontaneous, down to earth vs. head in the clouds Dustbringer - cautious vs. daring, fencing vs. boxing, likes to take things apart vs. if it ain't broke don't fix it, dependable vs. flexible, planner vs. spontaneous, library vs. dojo, heart on sleeve vs. poker face, flamboyant vs. reserved, heart vs. head Willshaper Most similar to Lightweaver, Dustbringer, Windrunner, Stonewarden Least similar to Skybreaker, Edgedancer, Bondsmith, Truthwatcher Moderately similar: Elsecaller Which questions show the most difference between the two Orders? (basically, these questions are what distinguish the two). These start with the largest-difference questions, and the Orders begin with the most similar. Lightweaver - likes to take things apart vs. if it ain't broke don't fix it, artistic vs. scientific, transparency vs. need-to-know Dustbringer - likes to take things apart vs. if it ain't broke don't fix it, letter of the law vs. spirit of the law, free-spirited vs. disciplined Windrunner - paladin vs rogue, obedient vs rebellious, decisive vs indecisive, guard dog vs alley cat, likes change vs likes stability Stonewarden - obedient vs rebellious, down to earth vs head in the clouds, letter of the law vs spirit of the law, free-spirited vs disciplined, creative vs conventional, decisive vs indecisive, transparency vs. need-to-know, dependable vs. flexible Elsecaller - flamboyant vs reserved, down to earth vs head in the clouds, hotel vs camping, planner vs spontaneous, fencing vs boxing, heart vs head, heart on sleeve vs poker face, cautious vs daring, artistic vs. scientific, free-spirited vs. disciplined Truthwatcher - flamboyant vs. reserved, leader vs. facilitator, heart vs. head, confident vs. needs reassurance, likes change vs. likes stability Bondsmith - obedient vs rebellious, flamboyant vs reserved, likes change vs likes stability, likes to take things apart vs if it ain't broke don't fix it, end justifies the means vs honorable actions Edgedancer - obedient vs. rebellious, down to earth vs. head in the clouds, hotel vs. camping, paladin vs. rogue, competitive vs. casual Skybreaker - letter of the law vs. spirit of the law, obedient vs. rebellious, thinks outside the box vs. colors inside the lines, paladin vs. rogue Stonewarden Most similar to Windrunner, Skybreaker Least similar to Truthwatcher, Lightweaver, Edgedancer Moderately similar: Bondsmith, Dustbringer, Willshaper, Elsecaller Which questions show the most difference between the two Orders? (basically, these questions are what distinguish the two). These start with the largest-difference questions, and the Orders begin with the most similar. Windrunner - down to earth vs head in clouds, competitive vs casual, pacemaker vs firebrand, fencing vs boxing, paladin vs rogue, likes change vs likes stability, transparency vs need-to-know Skybreaker - thinks outside the box vs. colors inside the lines, hotel vs. camping, down to earth vs. head in the clouds Bondsmith - creative vs. conventional, hotel vs. camping, competitive vs. casual, transparency vs. need-to-know, peacemaker vs. firebrand, artistic vs. scientific, library vs. dojo, likes change vs. likes stability, fencing vs. boxing Dustbringer - dependable vs. flexible, obedient vs. rebellious, likes to take things apart vs. if it ain't broke don't fix it, thinks outside the box vs. colors inside the lines, guard dog vs. alley cat, planner vs. spontaneous Willshaper - obedient vs rebellious, down to earth vs head in the clouds, letter of the law vs spirit of the law, free-spirited vs discipline, creative vs conventional, decisive vs indecisive, transparency vs. need-to-know, dependable vs. flexible Elsecaller - hotel vs camping, library vs dojo, wolf pack vs lone wolf, cautious vs daring, creative vs conventional, end justifies the means vs honorable actions, fencing vs boxing Edgedancer - hotel vs. camping, competitive vs. casual, creative vs. conventional, fencing vs. boxing Lightweaver - creative vs conventional, decisive vs indecisive, dependable vs flexible, artistic vs scientific, guard dog vs alley cat, down to earth vs head in the clouds Truthwatcher - book smart vs. street smart, down to earth vs. head in the clouds, confident vs. needs reassurance, competitive vs. casual, library vs. dojo, decisive vs. indecisive, transparency vs. need-to-know Bondsmith Most similar to Edgedancer, Windrunner Least similar to Dustbringer, Willshaper, Truthwatcher, Lightweaver, Elsecaller Moderately similar: Stonewarden, Skybreaker Which questions show the most difference between the two Orders? (basically, these questions are what distinguish the two). These start with the largest-difference questions, and the Orders begin with the most similar. Edgedancer - cautious vs. daring, heart on sleeve vs. poker face, decisive vs. indecisive Windrunner - library vs dojo, likes to take things apart vs if it ain't broke don't fix it, creative vs conventional, hotel vs camping, tense vs relaxed, spiritual vs skeptical, down to earth vs head in clouds Stonewarden - creative vs. conventional, hotel vs. camping, competitive vs. casual, transparency vs. need-to-know, peacemaker vs. firebrand, artistic vs. scientific, library vs. dojo, likes change vs. likes stability, fencing vs. boxing Skybreaker - thinks outside the box vs. colors inside the lines, spiritual vs. skeptical, compassionate vs. dispassionate, heart vs. head, letter of the law vs. spirit of the law, likes to take things apart vs. if it ain't broke don't fix it, artistic vs scientific, creative vs conventional, tense vs relaxed Elsecaller - end justifies the means vs honorable actions, artistic vs scientific, cautious vs daring, wolf pack vs lone wolf, spiritual vs skeptical, heart vs head, likes change vs likes stability, likes change vs. likes stability, tells the truth vs. bends the truth Lightweaver - tells the truth vs bends the truth, decisive vs indecisive, obedient vs rebellious, guard dog vs alley cat, transparency vs need-to-know, heart on sleeve vs poker face, dependable vs. flexible Truthwatcher - leader vs. facilitator, heart vs. head, spiritual vs. skeptical, book smart vs. street smart, confident vs. needs reassurance, down to earth vs. head in the clouds, decisive vs. indecisive Willshaper - obedient vs rebellious, flamboyant vs reserved, likes change vs likes stability, likes to take things apart vs if it ain't broke don't fix it, end justifies the means vs honorable actions Dustbringer - peacemaker vs. firebrand, dependable vs. flexible, obedient vs. rebellious, paladin vs. rogue, fencing vs. boxing, leader vs. facilitator Edited May 20, 2025 by mike.the.monk formatting 6
IcedOutPenguin He/Him Posted May 20, 2025 Posted May 20, 2025 Well, I don't know about any other Windrunners, but what Radiant order I get depends on my mood when taking the test. It always fluctuates between Windrunner, Skybreaker, and Elsecaller, so I feel that the eslecaller being least similar isn't very accurate. This probably happens with all the Radiant orders and I don't belive any is inherently closer to others than any other.
mike.the.monk Posted May 20, 2025 Author Posted May 20, 2025 In this context, "inherently similar" means "would score a high percent as the other order on the quiz", which happens because the two orders have similar answers on many of the questions. For example, a 100% Windrunner would get 70% Skybreaker and 40% Elsecaller.
+Kelkamer Posted June 8, 2025 Posted June 8, 2025 I recently retook the test after and after only ever getting Willshaper as No. 1 in the past, I got Elsecaller. Then came across this and found it really insightful. Thanks for putting this together! I think, despite the faults of the quiz, it does highlight some unique differences and similarities between certain Orders
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