Liora Thayln Posted March 6, 2025 Posted March 6, 2025 A kind of random question I had, but what exactly does modesty look like in Vorinism? Obviously, the safehand. But what about things like keeping their shoulders covered, low necklines, or short skirts?
1 Duxredux he/him Posted April 20, 2025 Posted April 20, 2025 Hum... I'm going off the top of my head, from what I remember in the books... Safe hand is pretty big, considering Kaladin's reaction to seeing one while helping in his father's surgery as a youth. Ialai Sadeas when trying to talk Dalinar into marrying Evi noted that the Riri go around half clothed, which may or may not be related to the bag they were having her wear on her safe hand while she was trying to eat at the negotiation banquet for the Plate. I think Shallan also makes note of necklines... The design of the Havah probably says a lot about what is considered modest. From the Coppermind: https://coppermind.net/wiki/File:Vorin_Havah.jpg Not that I've studied this at all, but to an extent what is considered culturally modest I suspect is what diverges from what is functional for the climate and region in addition to historical and often religious factors. The seafaring Thaylen merchants are more relaxed on Vorin codes likely for the need for every member on a sailing ship that is draining food and water to also crew the ship. The less modest gloves instead of extended sleeves is a practical solution, same with the men learning to read should the women fall ill or be incapacitated. Let's look at climate. For cold regions where covering up is practical, it may be a relatively small step to diverge from what is practical to attract attention and by extension be considered unmodest. Showing calves, knees, shoulders, midriffs, or more during a blizzard will be unusual and draw attention. In contrast, in a tropical climate like the Reshi isles, fully encompassing clothing may be impractical. To reference Warbreaker, Spoiler There's a very practical reason why Vivenna's devout wardrobe from the mountains was very uncomfortable in hot Hallendren. The Alethi seem to be more exposed to the Highstorms and border the Frostlands. Seems like a recipe for a windy and cold climate which may explain the enveloping Havah. 1
0 ruler of the mists He/His/the survivor of the pit Posted April 17, 2025 Posted April 17, 2025 It depends on the country I think, the Vedens are very conservative and the Alethi are in the middle, but the thaylens are on the more liberal side.
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Liora Thayln
A kind of random question I had, but what exactly does modesty look like in Vorinism? Obviously, the safehand. But what about things like keeping their shoulders covered, low necklines, or short skirts?
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