WeiryWriter he/him Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 But thats if Hanmonry was Shattered, not if he was Split. Im pretty sure the term Splitting is not canon anyway so this is all hypothetical, but we know that Shattering is breaking a Shard into multiple small chunks anyway so im assuming that no one thought we would get Ruin and Preservation out of Harmony Shattering. Shattering and Splintering are essentially the same thing. Shattering should be used when talking about Adonalsium, Splintering for Shards.
Localconfusi0n Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 I understand that, however Im not refering to either term. im refering to Splitting. Also Shattering is not just an Adonalsium term, yes Adonalsium was Shattered, but so were a few other Shards we know of and Shattering is when, as you previously stated, a Shard is broken into multiple smaller pieces by another force. Splintering is when a Shard breaks off a piece of their own power for an intentional use (i.e. Endowment making Returned or the Honorblades, though i know that ones a theory) though it seems it can also be done by another force as well.
WeiryWriter he/him Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 Also Shattering is not just an Adonalsium term, yes Adonalsium was Shattered, but so were a few other Shards we know of and Shattering is when, as you previously stated, a Shard is broken into multiple smaller pieces by another force. Splintering is when a Shard breaks off a piece of their own power for an intentional use (i.e. Endowment making Returned or the Honorblades, though i know that ones a theory) though it seems it can also be done by another force as well. I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to say here. If Splintering can be done "by another force as well" who is it not the same as Shattering? A Shard can voluntarily Splinter off a fragment of it's power without being Splintered, which is the case with Endowment. Honor, Devotion, and Dominion have all been killed and Splintered.
Localconfusi0n Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 Its how you use the word. When you say "Honor was Splintered by Odium" the intent is obviously that an opposing force did so if you say "Endowment made a Splinter of his power" (idk if Endowment is male or female so sorry if thats wrong) it is obvoius that Endowment did so himself, however Shattering is a thing that can only be done by an opposing force, or atleast thats all we have examples of so far. Plus a Splinter of a Shard is a Sentient being, while a fragment of a Shard is not neccesarily so, and usually comes from the Shattering of a Shard. So while they are very similar terms, they are not the same.
WeiryWriter he/him Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 But you wouldn't say that a Shard has been Shattered, you would say it is Splintered. Shattering is used in relation to Adonalsium. It's like "autopsy" vs "necropsy", it's the first if it is done on a person, the second if done on an animal, but they are the same thing. To go with a Wheel of Time it's gentling vs stilling. Same process but you call it something different based on what it is happening to. Also I wouldn't say that all Splinters are sentient, the divine Breaths don't seem so to me.
kaellok he/him Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 ...Shattering is a thing that can only be done by an opposing force, or atleast thats all we have examples of so far. Actually, we don't know for sure that Adonalsium was Shattered by an outside force. Q: Did Adonalsium deliberately shatter itself?A: Hmmm, good question! RAFO!
Localconfusi0n Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 Im not very good at findng quotes so sorry. Also your quote is pertaining to Adonalsium shattering itself, and the quote i am refering to says an opposing force Shattered Adonalsium. Also I wouldn't say that all Splinters are sentient, the divine Breaths don't seem so to me. The Breath is sentient through the person it has been placed in. Also, while the person was once alive, they arent really even the same person anymore and the divine breath could have just used their body as a means through which to give itself life
killersquirrel59 he/him Posted September 11, 2014 Author Posted September 11, 2014 To be clear, I did not present Splitting as a canonical term. Splitting was my term and a way to differentiate my argument from Splintering, which seems to be something else entirely.
KiManiak he/him Posted September 11, 2014 Posted September 11, 2014 Found it! (Or rather Kurk found it for me... Thank you Kurk!) (source) Thanks Weiry. All information is appreciated, even if it doesn't always support my theories. :-) Upvote to you!
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