Ferrings

[RJWB0mb]

guess your right but its still somthing interesting to look forward too.

[Aradel he/him]

Brandon has said that a skilled and clever chromium (is identity chromium? I forget.) Ferring can 'trick' someone else's metalmind and tap it. The semi-canon rpg says that you can restore your personality to the way you were in the past by tapping what you stored.

Personally, I think storing Identity makes you less...

well, you. I think it would make you more susceptible to influence, allomantic or not. Meaning you could be manipulated easier.

[Thought]

Aluminum is identity, chromium is luck. But that would be fun if there was a feruchemist who could steal the metalminds of ferrings.

Edited February 27, 2012 by Thought

[Aradel he/him]

The only trouble is that you'd have to mimic their identity anytime you tapped their power. Makes me wonder though, if a ferring can change their identity without aluminum, i.e. have a vastly profound change of heart and personality, can they access metalminds they filled before the change?

[name_here]

I'd go for Zinc, since it seems like storing mental speed would be an excellent counter to boredom.

[RJWB0mb]

i like zinc as well though i think it would be most effective if you could couple it with copper.

when you store energy you need to eat alot. so when you tap a large store for energy would you get fat your become hyper?

Edited March 13, 2012 by RJWB0mb

[Keeper]

So. Difficult. To Choose.

I pick all of them. I can't choose one. If I could regulate my body temperature with brass, I'd be happy. Warm in the winter, cooled off in the summer. Zinc brings "Think Fast!" to a whole other level. If I could be a full feruchemist, I would be happy.

[lil_literalist he/him]

Steel (physical speed) would be rather easy to store up, and be incredibly useful at times.

I like tin (senses) because unlike Allomantic tin, you can choose which of your senses you want to enhance. Heck, it could even be useful for preserving your hearing at concerts or other loud places.

Zinc (mental speed) just seems like a nice ability.

I feel that these are the three most useful ones. If I had to choose, I'd probably go with Zinc. It would be easy to tap it, and occasionally, it would be great to have a burst of mental speed, or have quick reflexes.

[Windrunner he/him]

Does anyone else think that being an atium Ferring (if they're real) wouldn't be all that bad? If you discovered your powers while young you could start storing and reach your physical prime quickly. That way you could be older quickly but also be storing youth for later when you are actually old. I also know there are plenty of times when I'm not doing strenuous activities that I wouldn't mind being old during. Getting to be younger when your really old would be cool too. Not my favorite power, but not so bad either.

[lil_literalist he/him]

Does anyone else think that being an atium Ferring (if they're real) wouldn't be all that bad? If you discovered your powers while young you could start storing and reach your physical prime quickly. That way you could be older quickly but also be storing youth for later when you are actually old. I also know there are plenty of times when I'm not doing strenuous activities that I wouldn't mind being old during. Getting to be younger when your really old would be cool too. Not my favorite power, but not so bad either.

Quite true. Of course, atium is pretty hard to come by, even in Scadrial. It would be a pretty hefty investment, and you would have to make it while you're still young.

[Voidus]

Quite true. Of course, atium is pretty hard to come by, even in Scadrial. It would be a pretty hefty investment, and you would have to make it while you're still young.

It's still cheaper than using it allomantically at least, could be a family heirloom or something?

[Aeshdan he/him]

A thought I just had: one Archivist could actually inherit another's stored memories via the following process.

1. Old Archivist kills self with copper spike, creating a Hemalurgic spike.

2. Young Archivist implants that spike in himself, granting him the ability to use the Old Archivist's copperminds.

3. Young Archivist taps all the Old Archivist's memories, then stores them again.

4. Young Archivist removes spike and gives it to the Immortals for earring-making.

The stored memories now "belong" to the Young Archivist.

[Voidus]

I just had an interesting thought, if someone was tapping Zinc and Copper (so either someone who has been spiked or a full feruchemist) Would their memories degrade faster because of the Zinc? because I was just thinking that more useful than giving them to another Archivist (who could have just had the old Archivist recite them) if you gave the spike to a Sparker (especially a double-zinc) just imagine what they could discover with that knowledge as well as vastly increased mental speed.

[lil_literalist he/him]

A thought I just had: one Archivist could actually inherit another's stored memories via the following process.

1. Old Archivist kills self with copper spike, creating a Hemalurgic spike.

2. Young Archivist implants that spike in himself, granting him the ability to use the Old Archivist's copperminds.

3. Young Archivist taps all the Old Archivist's memories, then stores them again.

4. Young Archivist removes spike and gives it to the Immortals for earring-making.

The stored memories now "belong" to the Young Archivist.

Hm, this is an interesting point. So in essence, when someone practices hemalurgy, they are not simply gaining feruchemy, but they are gaining the feruchemical powers of the person that they stole it from. I like this idea. I was initially against it, but after trying to make a post against it, I ended up convincing myself.

[Voidus]

Oh also on the copper spiking thing, the best thing it would seem to me would be to give the spike not to another Archivist but a Copper misting who could then compound the memories, (depending on how compounding copper works) and store them again and THEN give the spike to another archivist, depending on how copper compounding works the memories would either practically never fade meaning that one set of memories could last for generations without having to re-learn the material OR it could be possible to create multiple sets of the memories and share 1 archivists knowledge base between multiple younger archivists the best result would obviously be if both could happen (creating multiple increased-strength memories) just thinking about this is completely mind-boggling it is even possible that if you could do both (create multiple increased-strength memories) which were all accessible by whoever has the spike then you could give that spike to everyone alive one at a time they could then completely tap one of the many metalminds and just not store it again as the information wouldn't degrade and then everyone on the planet could have an archivists memories.

[Aeshdan he/him]

Hm, this is an interesting point. So in essence, when someone practices hemalurgy, they are not simply gaining feruchemy, but they are gaining the feruchemical powers of the person that they stole it from. I like this idea. I was initially against it, but after trying to make a post against it, I ended up convincing myself.

It's second-order canon (from the MAG.) So it should be held as proven until explicitly stated otherwise.

[Tazren he/him]

This is so much tougher to choose from than what I'd have as a misting. Everything could be really useful. But if I have to pick my favourites ...

Zinc, Copper, Bronze, Bendalloy, Gold, Chromium.

1st choice: Bronze

I think this would be my first choice, because it would actually be useful, always. A lot of other things would be awesomely cool,t but ... how often do you really need to be immortal? I mean, sure. It'd basically guarantee you a long, healthy life, barring some extreme circumstances. But first: it'd be freakishly expensive compounding gold. And second: you've got a decent chance of a long, healthy life anyway. And you don't get much else from gold, aside from not getting sick. I suppose if I were terminally ill, this would be my choice, of course. But now that I'm young ... no.

As for the rest ... a lot are so situational. How often do you need to hold your breath for long? Or have superhuman strength? Or run at the speed of light? Or get warmer?

But wakefullness ... There are so many occasions where being drowzy wouldn't matter. If you're watching movies/tv-series, while travelling somewhere by train/bus/passenger seat of a car ... while waiting. While just being out walking, while exercising (so long as it's not too intense) ... you could store A LOT of it. And then use it whenever you want. Not a morning person? Just tap a bit of your bronzeminds and feel less tired.

Have a boring meeting/lecture, that still has a lot of essential information in it? Be really sharp, don't doze off. Doing something in the evening that you want to finish? Just burn through some of that massive amount of wakefulness you've got stored. You don't even need to tap so much that you're 100% awake; just enough that you are moderately attentive, if you just want to be able to stay up reading, writing, programming, watching movies ...

And think how useful this would be. You could get so much more done. So much more studying. A lot more time for cramming before exams. Or you could get the time to start on that hobby you've always wanted to try ... you'd have a constant advantage compared to everybody else. It's not situational - you can use wakefulness daily, completely optimize your hours of effectiveness, spread out over months.

And I totally convinced myself after having writing all of this ...

2nd choice: Bendalloy

Situationally, this would be awesome, since you'd be able to last for a long time in a disaster. If you continuously store food and liquids, you could have a huge storage of that after a few years. If you've got a steady income, there's nothing preventing you from just eating more and more ... and water's free.

For everyday life, this would mean eating unhealthy without ever gaining weight. You could binge on potatoe chips and ice cream shamelessly. That'd be pretty sweet. Not, perhaps, "useful", but it'd be one thing less to worry about, plus it'd be easier to stay in shape. And that'd probably make you happier, as well.

3rd choice: Chromium

This does depend on how it works ... but if it only affects good luck (meaning that when you store it, you'd be without good luck, but no increased chances of bad luck), and depending on the average amount of luck ... if wouldn't be too difficult to store significant amounts of luck, it would be pretty sweet.

Aside from tapping it when selecting lottery numbers, you could use it when meeting important people (like job interviews) to manage to say the right things. Hopefully, you'd just happen to mention that thing you're soon-to-be boss and you have in common, so that you make a good impression. And if you're in a dangerous situation, some luck is always great.

The rest ...

Copper would be cool. But in today's society, with the Internet ... it's not quite as useful. Sure, it would be incredible to be able to recall details on demand, and to be able to literally remove unpleasant memories. But it's not quite as usefull. Would be a lot more impressive if it acted as a constant memory enhancement, giving you eidetic memory.

And those I havne't already mentioned ... most are situational. Increased senses might be a great idea, sure. But it's not that often that you have to see or hear better than you already do. And while storing warmth might be great during winter (especially if you live someplace cold) it doesn't really have much everyday usage. Not in the same way as wakefulness or luck.

I suppose Duralumin would be great for the Connection ... but it's a very specific thing. It depends on what kind of person you are. If you are the kind of person that people trust easily, this isn't quite as useful. Especially if you already happen to have an easy time blending away in the background. And it only works with people. Doesn't help you with anything else.

Well, they're all amazing. But Bronze, Chromium and Bendalloy definitely seem like the ones you could get the most use out of over the course of your life, the two former could be useful in plenty of different situations, whether it involves people or just enhancing your own capacity for greatness.

[Asha'man Logain]

Oh also on the copper spiking thing, the best thing it would seem to me would be to give the spike not to another Archivist but a Copper misting who could then compound the memories, (depending on how compounding copper works) and store them again and THEN give the spike to another archivist, depending on how copper compounding works the memories would either practically never fade meaning that one set of memories could last for generations without having to re-learn the material OR it could be possible to create multiple sets of the memories and share 1 archivists knowledge base between multiple younger archivists the best result would obviously be if both could happen (creating multiple increased-strength memories) just thinking about this is completely mind-boggling it is even possible that if you could do both (create multiple increased-strength memories) which were all accessible by whoever has the spike then you could give that spike to everyone alive one at a time they could then completely tap one of the many metalminds and just not store it again as the information wouldn't degrade and then everyone on the planet could have an archivists memories.

Allomantic Internet!!! nice.