Aeshdan he/him Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Alright, here's my proposal: The Seventeenth Shard is looking for Hoid in WoK because they want to aplogize to him and reinstate him. Here's my proposed timeline: 1. Way back in Brandon's college days, Hoid founds the Seventeenth Shard. 2. A great many things happen. 3. We found the 17th Shard. 3. Sometime between AoL and WoK, Hoid does something to make the Seventeenth Shard think that he's crazy/dangerous. 4. They depose him and try to put him in jail. 5. He escapes and goes to Roshar. 6. The Seventeenth Shard discovers he was right. 7. They send agents to Roshar to find him, apologize to him, and offer him the headship back. 8. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KChan she/her Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 There are any number of reasons why the Seventeenth Shard are looking for Hoid. This could possibly be one of them - or they could be trying to recruit him, kill him, or even track him down for that game of Shelldry he skipped out on. Unfortunately, we don't have nearly enough information to form a solid theory on it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiveAM he/him Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Interesting, but I agree with KChan that there isn't enough evidence to really begin to know why the Seventeenth Shard is after Hoid. HOWEVER, IF you consider Hoid as the writer of The Letter.... Your friends of the Seventeenth Shard, I suspect. I believe they're still lost, following a false trail I left for them. They'll be happier that way. I doubt they have any inkling what to do with me should they actually catch me. If anything I have said makes a glimmer of sense to you, I trust that you'll call them off. Or maybe you could astound me and ask them to do something productive for once. Hoid says, "your friends of the Seventeenth Shard" and "I doubt that they have any inkling what to do with me should they actually catch me". From this, at the very least seems more likely that Hoid is NOT the founder of the Seventeenth Shard. Although he may still have been a member, it doesn't seem likely as he considers them through the recipient, not an answer to the Seventeenth Shard themselves but to someone who is connected to them, this creates a MUCH larger social distance and make it less likely he was a part of it, though not impossible. Also, Hoid was the apprentice of the 'original' Hoid right? I haven't read any of the Partinel stuff but well, dangers of General Theories section.. (I know it's irresponsible to consider those in theories as they aren't officially canonical but i think was mentioned in interview by Brandon?) This all doesn't help confirm whether they are trying to apologize or not, but it DOES seem that Hoid doesn't consider there to be any reason for them to be apologizing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KChan she/her Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Or at the very least, if they do want to apologize for something, he really doesn't care to hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeshdan he/him Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Interesting, but I agree with KChan that there isn't enough evidence to really begin to know why the Seventeenth Shard is after Hoid. HOWEVER, IF you consider Hoid as the writer of The Letter.... Hoid says, "your friends of the Seventeenth Shard" and "I doubt that they have any inkling what to do with me should they actually catch me". From this, at the very least seems more likely that Hoid is NOT the founder of the Seventeenth Shard. Although he may still have been a member, it doesn't seem likely as he considers them through the recipient, not an answer to the Seventeenth Shard themselves but to someone who is connected to them, this creates a MUCH larger social distance and make it less likely he was a part of it, though not impossible. Also, Hoid was the apprentice of the 'original' Hoid right? I haven't read any of the Partinel stuff but well, dangers of General Theories section.. (I know it's irresponsible to consider those in theories as they aren't officially canonical but i think was mentioned in interview by Brandon?) This all doesn't help confirm whether they are trying to apologize or not, but it DOES seem that Hoid doesn't consider there to be any reason for them to be apologizing... Well, if he's writing to Chaos (who presumably is running Seventeenth Shard now that Hoid is gone), he might refer to them as "your friends"(Since they certainly aren't his any longer (as far as he knows)). And I can imagine Hoid thinking "I trained these girls, I've been their leader for millennia, they won't know what to do with me if they actually catch me." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeshdan he/him Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Or at the very least, if they do want to apologize for something, he really doesn't care to hear it. He doesn't know why they're chasing him. He thinks they're still trying to catch him and then figure out what to do with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dros Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Mybe he dropped his wallet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KChan she/her Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 I still think it's the Shelldry game. The Seventeenth Shard take their Shelldry very seriously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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