tolkien Lord of the Rings

[HippoPhileus he/him]

This topic thread is to be used to discuss The Lord of the Rings and other of Tolkien's works.

 

Conversation starters:

- Who is your favorite character (in all of Tolkien's Middle Earth stories) and why?

- What is the biggest beef you have with the Lord of the Rings?

- If you could ask Tolkien one question, what would it be?

- If you could be a member of any race and community in Middle Earth, what would it be and why?*

 

Be nice and have fun discussing these amazing books!

 

*This DOES NOT include angelic beings such as the Maiar (Istari), Ainur, or Illuvatar.

Edited March 30, 2022 by HippoPhileus

[Thaidakar the Ghostblood he/him]

mkay, now to go into deeeeeeep stuff here.

LOTR IS AWESOME! I love it I love it! I love it! Brandon Sanderson may be my favorite author but LOTR is my favorite book.

[HippoPhileus he/him]

2 hours ago, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

mkay, now to go into deeeeeeep stuff here.

LOTR IS AWESOME! I love it I love it! I love it! Brandon Sanderson may be my favorite author but LOTR is my favorite book.

Deep stuff is often the most fun to discuss.

I agree! Brandon Sanderson is my favorite author by Lord of the Rings is my favorite book.

[Thaidakar the Ghostblood he/him]

Just now, HippoPhileus said:

Deep stuff is often the most fun to discuss.

I agree! Brandon Sanderson is my favorite author by Lord of the Rings is my favorite book.

noice! Tom Bombadil being Illuvatar and Illuvatar being Tolkien 

[HippoPhileus he/him]

2 hours ago, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

noice! Tom Bombadil being Illuvatar and Illuvatar being Tolkien 

Tolkien hated allegory, but since I think his religion (Catholicism) influenced his writing I would say Eru (the One) represents God.

Tom Bombadil as Illuvatar? Hmm, I've never considered that. I suppose it is possible, but Illuvatar didn't create Arda/help the Ainur create Arda, I believe he is still active in the world. Tom Bombadil isn't, he just sits in his house with Goldberry and doesn't interact with the outside world.

Edited March 23, 2022 by HippoPhileus

[Thaidakar the Ghostblood he/him]

Just now, HippoPhileus said:

Tolkien hated allegory, but since I think his religion (Catholicism) influenced his writing I would say Eru (the One) represents God.

Tom Bombadil as Illuvatar? Hmm, I've never considered that. I suppose it is possible, but Illuvatar didn't create Arda/help the Ainur create Arda, I believe he is still active in the world. Tom Bombadil isn't, he just sits in his house with Goldberry and doesn't interact with the outside world.

hmmmm. I think at least Tom Bombadil as Tolkien. Eru does represent god I think, but not in the way we think. wait, *intense book flashback* does anyone call Eru the one in story?

[HippoPhileus he/him]

2 hours ago, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

hmmmm. I think at least Tom Bombadil as Tolkien. Eru does represent god I think, but not in the way we think. wait, *intense book flashback* does anyone call Eru the one in story?

Maybe Tom as Tolkien.

As a Christian, I think Illuvatar is supposed to be God in the same way as the Catholic/Christian God.

I think so, at the beginning of the Silmarillion. Maybe that's just my brain thinking it sounds cool 

Edited March 23, 2022 by HippoPhileus
avoiding double posting and wanted to add to it.

[Thaidakar the Ghostblood he/him]

Just now, HippoPhileus said:

I think so, at the beginning of the Silmarillion. Maybe that's just my brain thinking it sounds cool 

HMMMM. I WONDER. *makes connection between Illuvatar and the Iriali*

[HippoPhileus he/him]

2 hours ago, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

HMMMM. I WONDER. *makes connection between Illuvatar and the Iriali*

HAHAHA.

I hope not 

[Thaidakar the Ghostblood he/him]

Just now, HippoPhileus said:

HAHAHA.

I hope not 

*widens eyes* what if Adonalsium is really Eru, and after the group that became the shards (+ Hoid) killed Adonalsium, Ado went to the Tolkienverse and went by another name?

[HippoPhileus he/him]

2 hours ago, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

*widens eyes* what if Adonalsium is really Eru, and after the group that became the shards (+ Hoid) killed Adonalsium, Ado went to the Tolkienverse and went by another name?

*wretches* to much crossover for my liking. But an interesting theory that both Tolkien and Sanderson would probably despise. 

 

Is it THE Lord of the Rings or the Lord of the Rings? I'm never sure.

Edited March 23, 2022 by HippoPhileus

[Thaidakar the Ghostblood he/him]

Just now, HippoPhileus said:

*wretches* to much crossover for my liking. But an interesting theory that both Tolkien and Sanderson would probably despise. 

eh, it's what I do best, making crack pot theories.

[HippoPhileus he/him]

3 hours ago, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

eh, it's what I do best, making crack pot theories.

hahaha

Who is your favorite character?

[Thaidakar the Ghostblood he/him]

1 minute ago, HippoPhileus said:

hahaha

Who is your favorite character?

either Theoden, Pippin, Bilbo or Sam.

[HippoPhileus he/him]

2 hours ago, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

either Theoden, Pippin, Bilbo or Sam.

Oh those are all good characters. I really like Pippin's character, but I think Turin is my favorite. Children of Hurin (the book) is my favorite of Tolkien's stories beyond LOTR. I like it even more than the Hobbit.

[Thaidakar the Ghostblood he/him]

1 minute ago, HippoPhileus said:

Oh those are all good characters. I really like Pippin's character, but I think Turin is my favorite. Children of Hurin (the book) is my favorite of Tolkien's stories beyond LOTR. I like it even more than the Hobbit.

OH right! I was thinking limited to LOTR. of the characters not a part of the main trilogy Turn, Finrod and Fingolfin are my faves.

[HippoPhileus he/him]

2 hours ago, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

OH right! I was thinking limited to LOTR. of the characters not a part of the main trilogy Turn, Finrod and Fingolfin are my faves.

Fingolfin is so cool. 

OH WAIT. Glorfindel is my favorite middle earth character of all time. He just, ya know, killed a balrog and died and then Manwe sent him back to Arda.

BUT THEY CUT HIM OUT OF THE FRICKN' MOVIE

[Thaidakar the Ghostblood he/him]

Just now, HippoPhileus said:

Fingolfin is so cool. 

OH WAIT. Glorfindel is my favorite middle earth character of all time. He just, ya know, killed a balrog and died and then Manwe sent him back to Arda.

BUT THEY CUT HIM OUT OF THE FRICKN' MOVIE

I KNOW, THAT SUCKS. 

Glorfindel is awesome, but I had completely forgotten that until you mentioned it. I really need to reread the Silmarillion.

[HippoPhileus he/him]

2 hours ago, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

I KNOW, THAT SUCKS. 

Glorfindel is awesome, but I had completely forgotten that until you mentioned it. I really need to reread the Silmarillion.

Same. It just takes a while.

[Thaidakar the Ghostblood he/him]

1 minute ago, HippoPhileus said:

Same. It just takes a while.

*smiles* I bet I could read it in a week if I really wanted too. I read TWoK in three days THREE. I'm insane I know.

[HippoPhileus he/him]

2 hours ago, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

*smiles* I bet I could read it in a week if I really wanted too. I read TWoK in three days THREE. I'm insane I know.

[Thaidakar the Ghostblood he/him]

Just now, HippoPhileus said:

yeah... I'm just insane like that. I also read LotR when I was eight, *scratches back of head* yeah.

[HippoPhileus he/him]

2 hours ago, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

yeah... I'm just insane like that. I also read LotR when I was eight, *scratches back of head* yeah.

my dad read it to me at about the same age

[Thaidakar the Ghostblood he/him]

6 minutes ago, HippoPhileus said:

my dad read it to me at about the same age

nice! um, *tucks arguing point into bag* yeah.

[HippoPhileus he/him]

2 hours ago, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:

nice! um, *tucks arguing point into bag* yeah.

haha

My parents read LOTR, Harry Potter and all those books to me (with slight edits here or there for HP) before they let me read them. To keep my childhood more innocent. Since then I've read LOTR on my own 15+ times. Which, for being 17, ain't bad *pats himself on the back*