BloodShard Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Alright here is what I am curious about. So we know that Szeth was killed and brought back. My question is do you think that Szeth now qualifies as a Returned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 No. Returned are a very specific thing of Nalthis. They are returned, with a gift of prophecy and healing, by Endowment. Szeth was just healed after having his spine sliced with a Shardblade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taveren Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 this still seems questionable to me considering how high up they where he fell for something like 1 to 2 mins i don't think they brain would last long enough after a shardblade strike to the spine then hitting the ground and then the time i took for darkness to get to the landing spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 this still seems questionable to me considering how high up they where he fell for something like 1 to 2 mins i don't think they brain would last long enough after a shardblade strike to the spine then hitting the ground and then the time i took for darkness to get to the landing spot Hoid has the ability to show up when and where something important is about to happen. I wouldn't be surprised if an Herald had the same ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Hoid has the ability to show up when and where something important is about to happen. I wouldn't be surprised if an Herald had the same ability.He wields the power...of PLOT! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Szeth isn't returned because he hasn't gotten any breath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lomeon Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 So this brings up some interesting questions: Nalan plays off his resurrection as a "simple" healing of his brain. Healing (progression) is a surge of Vedeledev and Pailiah's orders. Does that mean that Heralds have access to all surges, or something else entirely? People killed by shardblades are thought to have their "souls" destroyed. This could come from superstition around the burned out eyes, but in the Cosmere, the spiritual realm is a real place, though little is known about it. If Szeth's soul was destroyed, but his body was healed, could this have any implications? What actually happens when someone is killed by a shardblade? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banestar Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 People killed by shardblades are thought to have their "souls" destroyed. This could come from superstition around the burned out eyes, but in the Cosmere, the spiritual realm is a real place, though little is known about it. If Szeth's soul was destroyed, but his body was healed, could this have any implications? What actually happens when someone is killed by a shardblade? Good point. I think it becomes pretty obvious that your soul is *not* destroyed when you're killed by a shardblade. Though Nalan says that it was "cut through" Szeth's words and the fact that he had (somewhat) emotional reactions to what was said seem to indicate an intact, but damaged soul. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Nalan has fabrials to heal, I imagine. A Regrowth fabrial with a ruby to target the soul should fix a Shardblade wound quite nicely. He probably has a Lightweaving fabrial too. It's likely what uses to do his "appears from darkness" trick. It would also explain how he found Szeth. He flew after Kaladin and Szeth as they fought across the sky, invisible in his darkness illusion. (Convenient that the storms made it so dark...) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lomeon Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Fabrials, yes! Thank you, Moogle, you wonderful, voidish Willshaper. I haven't seen much conversation about fabrials on the forums yet. It seems important that when an amethyst replaces a ruby in a motion fabrial (8 is the opposite of 3), it gives it the opposite motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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