poww10s Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) So in Words Of Radiance chapter 63 we see wit (Hoid) say this: Wit said, "and for that reason I must go. I cannot risk too much, because if he finds me, then I become nothing - a soul shredded and broken into pieces that cannot be reassembled. What I do here is more dangerous than you could ever no." This is followed by: "Wit", Dalinar called."Yes?""If who finds you?""The one you fight, Dalinar Kholin. The father of hatred." Wit saluted then jogged off. So either we are seeing that odium can splinter anyone's soul. Or that Hoid is something more. We can gather from the second letter from the the mystery person to Hoid, that hoid is capable of coming back to life perhaps. With the person asking him something about his incarnation.So perhaps hoid isn't just regular but a type of force perhaps similar to a shard that let's do all the things he does. (I.e. the various magic systems.) If so, then perhaps because of this odium can splinter him like a shard. And perhaps hoid has either lost his connection to his sDNA or his spiritual part, or it has changed letting him use the various abilities he has. Someone else on the forums stated that in their personilization they where told that a common view of the spiritual realm would be heaven although it is not entirely right, this may be why he would be shattered and unable to be reassembled because he may be unable to access the spiritual realm. Thanks for reading my unorganized unformatted thoughts. Will edit when I reach a computer. EDIT: also the respondent says in the second letter: " I am told that in your current incarnation you've taken a name that references what you presume to be one of your virtues." Edited March 7, 2014 by poww10s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 I am not quite sure where the part about Hoid coming back to life comes from*... But now that I think about it, it makes sense that Odium would be able to Splinter any soul, not just Shards. If Shards are (mostly) Spiritual entities, as many of us strongly suspect, then if Odium can break that, why wouldn't he able to break a much smaller and weaker Spiritual entity, such as the human soul? * hurr hurr, it comes from the other side, hurr durr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poww10s Posted March 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 I am not quite sure where the part about Hoid coming back to life comes from*... In the letter in WoR, the respondent said: "I am told that in your current incarnation you've taken a name that references what you presume to be one of your virtues." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorridgeBrick Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 He might just be referencing his fake identities. I don't think it has to be a literal incarnation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 He might just be referencing his fake identities. I don't think it has to be a literal incarnation. That's how I interpreted it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poww10s Posted March 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 Yeah could be that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightReader Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 In the letter in WoR, the respondent said: "I am told that in your current incarnation you've taken a name that references what you presume to be one of your virtues." I'm pretty sure he was talking about the name "Wit" specifically. As in, Hoid sees his wit as being one of his greatest virtues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poww10s Posted March 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 Ah that would make a lot more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asperity Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 There's a WoB that says Hoid can survive decapitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isomere Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 I think Hoid is referring to the process of becoming one of the Unmade. Odium shreds the soul and captures it, then creates his legions of undead warriors out of dead souls that presumably can possess the living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 That may be a bit of a stretch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poww10s Posted March 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 I'm pretty sure the only reason he can survive decapitation is because he is is a mistborn/full Feruchemist. (compunding atium.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morsk Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I think Hoid is referring to the process of becoming one of the Unmade. Odium shreds the soul and captures it, then creates his legions of undead warriors out of dead souls that presumably can possess the living.I agree it's similar. The two quotes that convinced me are in a reply in a Parshendi thread. It might just kill Hoid though. The Parshendi are different than humans in being closer to the Cognitive Realm. They might have given themselves willingly to the process, which might make a difference. And Hoid talks about becoming "nothing", not becoming twisted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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