Zenith Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Whilst re-reading Warbreaker, I found a quote by Hoid: specifically about "gods". He said that the gods are dead where he came from. While this may mean there is no Returned (which is true), he knows he is speaking to an Idrian, who believes more in the shard kind of god. I think this may mean A: The shards on his homeworld are splintered/nonexistant B: He believes in different gods (obviously not the shards, if he was there when Adonalsium shattered) that died C: Something else entirely. Anyway, a find that I want discussed. If this has obvious flaws, tell me. I can take it . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROSHtafARian Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Well, by my understanding, the Liar of Partinel was set before the Shattering so there were no Shards yet, and in the first samples chapters there are several references to dead gods, and that always intrigued me....but apparently Liar has been scrapped now so I'm not sure if that's canon anymore? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaeMofo Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 I had always thought that he was from Roshar (not really sure why) but the Knights Radiant are all dead on that world? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Ninja Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Dragonsteel and Liar of Partinel (the scrapped Hoid origin story) are both set on Yolen. I'm pretty sure Liar was going to be a thousand years before Dragonsteel as well. It's been a while since I read the Liar sample chapters, but what really stood out to me was that the world and humanity already seemed pretty far along in their decline. And since we've been told Dragonsteel has dragons, I wonder if and how they would have been worked in Liar as well. Just looked for myself, and Liar really did have a lot of references to dead gods. http://www.docstoc.com/docs/35772519/The-Liar-of-Partinel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Midas mentions on several occasion that the gods are dead in Liar. It's just one more proof that he's from Yolen, which really needs no more confirmation, but is nice to have anyways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asperity Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Bit off-topic, but do we know if Dragonsteel is going to be a cosmere-prequel, or sequel (say, after WoK and maybe during future Mistborn or something?) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millennium Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Liar of Partinel was definitely supposed to be set before Dragonsteel, but I don't know if it was ever actually said to be pre-Shattering. It did mention dead gods, though. That said, with the novel scrapped, it's unclear exactly what from the sample chapters can be assumed to still hold true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 Bit off-topic, but do we know if Dragonsteel is going to be a cosmere-prequel, or sequel (say, after WoK and maybe during future Mistborn or something?) Dragonsteel refers to a series, 2 books of which are pre-cosmere, the rest of which we have no ideas on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asperity Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 Dragonsteel refers to a series, 2 books of which are pre-cosmere, the rest of which we have no ideas on. Yeah I know it's gonna be his next "epic" series after Stormlight Archive. I just wonder how it will play out. Speculation includes wondering if it'll be the 'final' cosmere series, or if anything will come after, especially since Dragonsteel probably won't be completed for ~20 years. And if there will be a gap in that like the planned Stormlight gap between Books 5 and 6. I just need to jump forward in time about fifteen years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenith Posted October 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 I just need to jump forward in time about fifteen years. I just need to jump forward in time to when SA is complete and I have them all. Then I will read them, stopping only to eat, drink, sleep, or go to the bathroom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jacob Santos Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 Yeah I know it's gonna be his next "epic" series after Stormlight Archive. I just wonder how it will play out. Speculation includes wondering if it'll be the 'final' cosmere series, or if anything will come after, especially since Dragonsteel probably won't be completed for ~20 years. And if there will be a gap in that like the planned Stormlight gap between Books 5 and 6. I just need to jump forward in time about fifteen years. You could always jump into a space craft, get close to light speed and then time the braking to the relative time. It might be a year or 5 for you but 15 or 50 for everyone else on Earth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 I just need to jump forward in time to when SA is complete and I have them all. Then I will read them, stopping only to eat, drink, sleep, or go to the bathroom. I, on the other hand, wouldn't stop at all. If I can finish WoK in one day, I can get through all of SA without eating on taking a break. Imaginary challenge accepted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamato Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 Hee hee I can do one better. I read TWOK in about 2 and a half hours, so if I rush I could finish all of Stormlight in 2 days. Imaginary challenge accepted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straff Venture Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 (edited) I, on the other hand, wouldn't stop at all. If I can finish WoK in one day, I can get through all of SA without eating on taking a break. Imaginary challenge accepted. One... day? You are one hell of a speed reader. At my best I probably read about 6 words a second, so to finish WoK I would literally have to keep reading without ever losing my train of thought, eating, drinking or taking any other break. EDIT: And Yamato, I'm actually pretty glad I don't read as fast as you. I always find myself becoming more immersed if I take time on a book. Edited October 13, 2012 by Straff Venture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 One... day? You are one hell of a speed reader. At my best I probably read about 6 words a second, so to finish WoK I would literally have to keep reading without ever losing my train of thought, eating, drinking or taking any other break. EDIT: And Yamato, I'm actually pretty glad I don't read as fast as you. I always find myself becoming more immersed if I take time on a book. When I read, I pewter drag. Takes a while to start, but I literally go till I can't see anymore. After WoK, the world was just one big blur. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straff Venture Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 Wow, nice. I might try that with SA2, seeing as its going to be substantially shorter than WoK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 Wow, nice. I might try that with SA2, seeing as its going to be substantially shorter than WoK It is? I thought Brandon said it'd be around the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenith Posted October 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 Wow, nice. I might try that with SA2, seeing as its going to be substantially shorter than WoK This makes me very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straff Venture Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 Both of you, I don't know where he said it but, in the context of saying because the Stormlight Archive would be so long WoK would have to both outline the series and be an enjoyable story of its own, that it would likely be the longest one. Its not certain, but very likely SA2 will be at least a little shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 I really hope it's as long, considering the wait I'm putting up for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenith Posted October 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 I really hope it's as long, considering the wait I'm putting up for it Keep in mind that he DID have to finish AMoL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straff Venture Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 Guys, I challenge you to a race of who can finish SA2 first, do you accept? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 Guys, I challenge you to a race of who can finish SA2 first, do you accept? Depends on how soon I get the book, but all that aside: *Cool Voice* CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenith Posted October 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 Guys, I challenge you to a race of who can finish SA2 first, do you accept? Provided we get it and start it at the same time, yes. So, in all reality, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asperity Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 I really hope it's as long, considering the wait I'm putting up for it Yeah. If there's only going to be a new SA book every 1.5 years or so, then I expect them to be just as long as the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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