Jo and the Bush

Post and hope for the best anyway?

My first PM was with Drake Marshall. I fought hard for peace. Then Frozen Mint contacted me, she was also trying for peace. She contacted me, sart, and megasif. Megasif has been proven to be a ghostblood, and Sart has a 50% chance of being the last one. I then contacted Alvron, and we had a long conversation, where i learned that he plans to achieve the voidbringer victory, not the peace victory. i did some analysis, and determined that one of Daniyah or Alvron has the Shardblade. Cloud is , of course, a Voidbringer. As far as I can tell, the Alethi working with the Sons have destroyed all chances of peace by threatening the Parshendi enough to make them Ally with Cloud. So, in the interest of winning and/or surviving. I am changing my goals. Brightness Radiant Cloudjumper @Sart please change your vote if you want to win. Ghostblood or Alethi, you need BR alive.

Now that Jondesu is dead Drake, I think you'll be surprised at how many people will vote for Brightness Radiant.

I was busy yesterday, and I will be busy today. I managed to Total my Car late last night, and I just got off the phone with USAA. I need to do a bunch of tings, including finding a junker to buy my car, finding and buying a new car, figuring out how to get to work without a car, and figuring out how I'm going to be paying for all this. So I would like to defend myself, but i have to go, so my defense is simply, i was and am busy, and i was doing what i thought would lead to an unaligned victory. I'll vote for Jondesu for now, and i will see you all hopefully soon.

we do have to kill Jondesu yes, but we can do that while we also look for his comrades. (Plus it looks like he's inactive?) We can kill Jon if we don't have a potential shardblader to lynch instead. Actually, @Parshendi, can you convince the last Voidbringer to decay Jondesu for us? It t'would be nice.

Let's go over this in detail, so that those in the back can hear. There were 6 attacks, 1 was the lynch, 2 were decayform, and are therefore unusable again. The other three were made by two shardblade holders and a random Ghostblood. Drake is out last scanner, and he has found a Son of honour, so let's go over our lynch possibilities right now: Jondesu, the revealed Ghostblood with two lives, who will take up two turns of lynching, and when he dies the ghostblood kill will continue to happen no matter what, or Brightness Radiant, the Son of Honour with only one live, and a 1/3 to 1/5 chance of being the only Son of Honour with a kill role, thereby stopping the Sons of Honour from murdering our last scanner. 2 lynches for little gain, or one lynch for the possibility of lots of gain. The scales are pretty darn clear here to me. Brightness Radiant PS: The Flash I would like to know who knew your role, but you're mostly off the hook. :Thumbs_Up:

On mobile, so won't actually quote, but I have clearly been going after the sons of honour and the ghostbloods since day 2. Orlok was my best bet for being a son. Now Yitzi is, with flash as a second. I'll be pursuing a lynch on one of them today, as the son's are the strongest faction, and I know Jondesu will be lynched anyway. Plus I figured the sons would shardblade him, being a parshendi and a secret faction. Also, if I recall correctly, I was the first Alrthi to vote for Orlok. Not another one.

Hmm. I have a feeling that today is going to be fairly useless discussion wise. Flash, you are apparently suspicious enough to one of the secret factions to merit a kill, yet also important enough to merit a defense. May I ask what you think you did to merit a kill and defense? People,.we can lynch Jon later in the cycle. Let's please talk.

I checked, and he wssnt. . . But i guess i missed him.

Hemalurgic headshot is not on the player list. Guessing drake the parshendi was a son kill, and the other two are voidbringers or ghostbloods. @The Flash @BrightnessRadiant any guesses on who would want you dead and why?

Actually, i reread my PM, and it might just mean you can only open one pm er day. sorry about any confusion i may have caused.

I asked in my PM with Seonid

We can only have 1 open at a time, and i needed to open a different one (I actually never ended up doing it, so thanks for the reminder)

Supposing Jondesu is a Ghostblood, that means both the Ghsotbloods and the voidbringers have lost players. The Sons's of Honour still haven't. At this point in the game, the Ghostbloods are going to be actively protecting the Parshendit, because they're weakened. If we're going after the peace treaty, we should be Lynching one of the suspected Sons, not a suspected GHostblood. I would much rather vote on Yitzi or the flash or even El than a ghostblood. HH is a horrible compromise. But, since the spokesmen of the Parshendi delegation proposed it, i will vote for HH. Since Orlok is apparently dying.

*Squint* Uhhh, yes. yes i did. i could have sworn i sad yesterday that Orlok was a Son of Honour. Lemme check my notes. *Leaves tab and goes to check note Doc* Hmm, I have Orlok down as a (2/4/1), and I have stick down as a (1/1/-1). Stick wasn't supposed to be in my five Sons of Honour reads, Orlok was. That got corrected in my notes, but not my actual post. Thank you for pointing that out.

I'm slightly disappointed. Sani is supposed to be my subtle fast talking character, but instead i'm going to have to play this game straight forward. I have made up my mind. I will only be analyzing the Alethi players from now on. I will be hunting for the sons of Honour and the Ghostbloods among them as i pursue the Unaligned peace Treaty Goal. As a player of Eighty Splendid Sons, i can do no less. Yesterday, when I analysed the thread, i found 5 people who i thought might be sons or heavily working with the sons: Yitzi, Flash. Asterion, Stick, and StrikerEZ. EDIT: Orlok, not Stick. See posts below Of those 5, I am most confident in Orlok Tsubodai's Honour (Or lack thereof? dunno). The Unaligned players are far more Neutral than actually a faction. They can win with the other Unaligned faction, by themselves, or with their associated evil faction. Their only win condition is to survive. In such a game, i would expect Orlok to actively pursue this neutrality. (Go look at L35 Miz for a clear cut example) But Orlok has made it extremely clear that he is actively working towards the win condition of the Sons of Honour. All of his actions, both apparent and claimed, have backed up his intent. By all appearances, he is an Artifabrian Son of Honour, and i will do my darnedest to get him lynched. I'd rather take the victory that this game is about, rather than the quick and dirty victory.

I should have responded sooner to this. The Elims cannot black mail the Neutrals. In order to make me lose, they have to kill me and then Crimson, wasting two kills that they could more easily spend on villagers in order to win. Orlok and crimsn are already winning, and will continue to win for at least 2 cycles. Elbereth and Stink have also won. that means that Wilson is the only one they can blackmail. they can't for two reasons though. Elbereth isprotecting her, so the elims have to waste two kills to kill her, or one kill to kill me. But If i get killed, the neutrals will immediately lynch her to help her win. And more importantly, this is Wilson we're talking about. she would rather policy suicide to punish the elims for black mail then give in to win. It's ridiculous to actually believe that the neutrals are being blackmailed. Onto actual analysis. All of the below Analysis is based entirely on Day 6. Nothing else. Villagers: Dalinar Kholin, Cloudjumper, Paranoid King, Brightness Radiant, The Flash, Seonid Uncertain: Arinian, Araris, Shqueeves, Drake Marshall, Eliminators: Stick, Ecthelion @The Flash, based on your belief that the Neutrals and elims were working together, and you're willingness to exploit that by making deals with us to get elim names, i think you are a Friend of the ABC. @cloudjumper, based on your apparent lack of interest in the game, and your interest in other games, I think you are a bored villager who has grown tired of the game. You are also willing to lynch Ecthelion, who i think is an Elim. @Shqueeves you haven't spoken this cycle, so i haven't looked at anything you said, so i can't read you. please speak up. @Paranoid King You sound like a villager who has given up completely. you just want the maximum number of players to win at this point, hence why you are helping the neutrals. that makes me think you are a Friend of the ABC @BrightnessRadiant, Crimsn and I worked together to Pm you a lot, and rappidly. we kept you on your toes, and you never slipped up. For that, and your comments this cycle, I read you as a Friend of the ABC. @Arinian you haven't said anything this cycle. Speak up Lad. @Araris Valerian I'm very uncertain about you. You refuse to lynch me, you defend the village rioters, you slightly defended Ecthelion, and overall act extremely neutrally. I don't know what to think of you, and would like for you to answer this Question: Suppose Ecthelion, the only smoker turns out village, will you change your mind about flash and BR being village as well? @Ecthelion III I don't have much of a read on you, but i have reads on both of the claimed rioters, and i think they're rioters. Since you're both willing to lynch me, and a Smoker, that makes me lean Eliminator on you. Can you talk more about why you were willing to lynch me? @Seonid your outright refusal to lynch me, and your negotiations with Orlok have cemented your villagesness in my mind. @Drake Marshallyou haven't spoken much this Cycle. @_Stick_ based on your willingness to lynch me, your implied defense of Ecthelion, and your suspicions, i think you are an Infiltrator. @Dalinar Kholin due to your suspicons, your unwillingness to lynch me, and, most importantly, your post calling out everyone to vote for ecth over me, i firmly believe you are a Friend of the ABC. There's my reads. It's probably my last post of the game. Good luck everyone. A joe in the Bush Ecthelion

Actually I've saved several of Elenion's posts for future use of his hypothetical plan. i will definetely do that at some point.

Mm, i want to wait for the full set to be released, and then buy their Monster for Every Season

Who did you think it was and why?

Haha, i actually went and reread that game just last night. Funtimes. it's partially why i'm inclined to go for the unaligned victory this time. Have Sani be a peacemaker in all the games. and uh, that gives me very little to RP off of. do you want to send me a message, or what?

This lynch is not in the interest of the villagers, it's in interest to the Neutrals. That's the entire point i made when i voted myself. I'm trying to force the villagers to actually be active and discuss alternate lynches. Yes, the problem i'm causing is deliberate. Day 5 was disappointingly slow. Today is working much better with getting votes and reads out there. i was never told about this deal actually. so if they made a deal, it was with wilson and Elbereth. However, you probably don't want to lynch me today. it puts you in an even worse position than before, as the elims will get anther kill in, and likely on another active villager, since that seems to be their MO. Stick is voting for me. interesting. The Elims are not blackmailing the neutrals. Yitzi tried that, but AMan took him out before we could do anything about that. And you are also interestingly voting for me. I was planning on taking my vote off of myself once it got to this point, since the whole point of me voting on myself, which everyone seems to have missed, was too get the villagers voting again. But the Neutrals seem to want this lynch to go through, so i'll hold onto it for now.

You Colonial dogs don't know how to properly spell. Your insistence on focusing on Alethi vs. Parshendi feels like something a Ghostblood would want to encourage, to keep attention off them. It's more likely you're a Son though.

“Brightness Joslin, we have arrived at the Warcamps.” “Mmm.” Sani acknowledged her steward, not bothering to look up from her readings as the carriage slowed to a stop. She was late, and the peace talks had started without her. She didn’t have any time to waste on the trip to the camps. She had personnel files to review, sleepers to awaken, and windows to sell. “Where would you like us to set up Brightness?” “Figure out where Brightness Meza is, and set up near her. I promised Jack I’d keep an eye on her. And then send a message to one of the more trustworthy of the Parshendi. Kyner perhaps. I want to make sure these negotiations go off without a hitch.” Apologies for missing last cycle. It won’t be a habit this game. @Crimsn-Wolf and @Drake Marshall, and @Everyone else feel free to receive a message from Sani if you want to RP. I have done a thorough analysis of the first cycle though, so here are my reads: Sons of Honour, and their allies: Yitzi, Flash. Asterion, Stick, and StrikerEZ. Ghostbloods: Elenion, Sart, Yitzi, Megasif, Orlok @Seonid can a player be a Ghostblood and a Voidbringer/Son? I have not decided if I am pursing an Alethi victory or a Unaligned victory. Edit: I would prefer a parshendi confirm Elenion's alignment before we lynch him.