TheCollector

I think there should be an actual opera made of the one that is mentioned in the broadsheets of Shadows of Self

56 minutes ago, stonehand said:

wait what? I finished the book last night and somehow missed this entirely!

I feel that. It was in the MeLaan epilogue, while she was sailing through Shadesmar. I heard red hair and thought, 'oh who could they be?' Racked my brains and couldn't think of anything. Makes sense though. 

3 minutes ago, Propagandist said:

Let it be thus!! 

Huzzah!!

On 6/25/2021 at 0:31 PM, Chinkoln said:

I know, it’s been a while, but I’m back!

This is from a long time ago in this topic, but I feel like it deserves to be brought back up in light of recent events

I've seen a thread talking about the "For Ado's Sake" thing, back when RoW first came out.

It talks about Bo-Ado-Mishrim, and how that was probably what Roboniel was talking about, which would make sense, because BAM caused the False Desolation, and was one of the most important unmade.

That's what I personally think is what the Ado thing is.

I love how there was an entire conversation about whether or not BS is a household name, and about how he has to work on other books and how it takes him so long to get cosmere books, and then Brandon just announces that he wrote 5 storming books in his free time a year later, 3 of which were cosmere.

Then proceeds to get the most funded kickstarter ever.

In under a week

I was just reading through and saw this

On 7/21/2021 at 6:25 AM, Child of Hodor said:

The OP isn't wrong. I doubt he'll finish the Cosmere saga. With both his Cosmere and non-Comsere works he tends to expand on what he originally thought he'd write. Brandon "I accidently wrote an entire book" Sanderson. MB Era 2 wasn't even going to exist then it was 1 book,  then 3, now 4. Skyward is not only a book, but 4 books and here's a ton of novellas. Reckoners is done, maybe a novella, actually I wrote so many novellas it's a full novel. 

In light of recent announcements this is funnier than I can say.

You know you're a good author when you write five books in secret and have your fans pay for them within minutes of announcing it.

The problem with Light being the magic system is that there could be hundreds of thousands of different Lights. This is kind of like with allomantic metals. This thread shows a progression of numbers as people slowly realized there were billions of trillions of metals. The same thing could be done with Lights 

https://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/95797-the-ultimate-metal-count/

The same thing could be done with Lights 

Ok, a bit of explanation for the title:

While aimlessly scrolling through the shard, I saw a random thread about pairing Cosmere powers, and the thought came to me, If a misting/mistborn became a Knight Radiant, would they be able to use Stormlight as a replacement for metals?

It sounds a little out there, but Kelsier is trying to find a way to get Stormlight off Roshar.

Feel free to shoot this down in any way you can

@elsoberanok, the problem with Kelsier vs. Dalinar is that there is a redemption arc for Dalinar already. He has accepted that he was a bad person. Kelsier, on the other hand, has not (as far as I know) admitted that the murders he committed were bad. Dalinar has forgiven himself. Kelsier has practically admitted that the only reason he killed the nobles was because he hated them. He even enjoyed killing them. Dalinar was under the influence of the Thrill, and he felt horrible about the Rift, so much so that he became a drunkard for years. 

1 hour ago, Frustration said:

And prevented untold amounts of destruction elsewhere.

Agreed. Look at Threnody. 

If being Topaz has anything to do with it, then why was it made worthless by Hoid wearing it?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this is a reference to the "Topaz":

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"Another time, I was named for a rock."

"A pretty one, I hope."

"A beautiful one," [Hoid] said. "And one that became completely worthless for my wearing it."

Again, I may be wrong. 

But if I'm not, what is Hoid talking about?

I just have to point out one thing:

Somewhere near the beginning (I don't remember exactly) there was a discussion about when Szeth became truthless, and I have an answer that I don't think was brought up. In tWoK, in the Rysn interlude, it is mentioned that Vstim had gotten a truthless from the shin seven years previously. I'm fairly certain that that truthless is Szeth.

Also, more on the current topic of seons, what does Ala mean as an Aon? That could be a hint.

I had the most random idea that I want to see happen. I want to see something where all of Kaladin's friends are trying to cheer him up, and just break into song using the live action Beauty and the Beast's song "Gaston". I do need to figure out some lines still, but this is what I've come up with so far (spoilerized for size):

I've made it so that Kaladin (which is 3 syllables) is Kal'din (which matches Gaston in syllables).

The brilliance of these puns would have blinded Moash again

I don't believe that this would happen, as Brandon has already done something like this in (Spoilers)

It's too similar and isn't very good writing, which is not what Brandon does.

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I'm not sure if Ishar would make Syl human, but I did find something in Words of Radiance that got me thinking. In WoR Kaladin keeps mentioning that he's afraid that the lighteyes could somehow take away his powers / connection with Syl. He recognizes the irrationality and there is of course the whole issue of whether he would hold to his oaths, but it made me wonder whether or not this could be foreshadowing of Ishar stealing Kaladin's connection with Syl, which could of course be related to him making Syl human.

Way to bring the discussion back on topic

All I have to say is that this was the most fascinating digression I've ever seen

This is a cool theory! One line of the prophecy in particular reminds me of something from the back of WoK, where it says

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One of them may redeem us.

And one of them will destroy us.

which sounds like this line:

On 8/31/2021 at 7:22 PM, Theldragor said:

The Hero will have the power to save the world. But he will also have the power to destroy it.

I'm not sure if I think this will actually be the case, it does fit rather nicely.

57 minutes ago, mathiau said:

No, they call aluminium "Rahkalest".

I see. I must have mixed Raysium and Rahkalest in my head. Thank you for correcting me.

1 hour ago, mathiau said:

That's Raysium not aluminium

I may be wrong, but I feel like somewhere in RoW Raboniel told Navani that Raysium was just what the Fused called aluminum

This might not be an original thought, but I didn't see it anywhere, so, here goes:

On Scadrial, aluminum gets rid of all metals in a Mistborn. On Roshar, aluminum stops a paired fabrial from being connected briefly. On Scadrial, duralumin enhances a Mistborn's powers greatly. On Roshar, duralumin could be used to enhance a paired fabrial, such as the Fourth Bridge. I believe that if duralumin was used on, say, Fourth Bridge while it was flying, whenever the Shattered Plains gemstone moved a foot, the Fourth Bridge would move forward many times that, greatly enhancing the speed.

(Sorry if my Scadrial information isn't accurate, I haven't read all of the Mistborn books yet. I'm working on it)

EDIT:

I have more evidence to support my theory:

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With a captured spren, you may begin designing a proper fabrial. It is a closely guarded secret of artifabrians that spren, when trapped, respond to different types of metals in different ways. A wire housing for the fabrial, called a “cage,” is essential to controlling the device.

The two metals of primary significance are zinc and brass, which allow you to control expression strength. Zinc wires touching the gemstone will cause the spren inside to more strongly manifest, while brass will cause the spren to withdraw and its power to dim.

A bronze cage can create a warning fabrial, alerting one to objects or entities nearby. Heliodors are being used for this currently, and there is some good reasoning for this—but other gemstones should be viable.

A pewter cage will cause the spren of your fabrial to express its attribute in force—a flamespren, for example, will create heat. We call these augmenters. They tend to use Stormlight more quickly than other fabrials.

An iron cage will create an attractor—a fabrial that draws specific elements to itself. A properly created smoke fabrial, for example, can gather the smoke of a fire and hold it close.

-Lecture on fabrial mechanics presented by Navani Kholin to the coalation of monarchs, Urithiru, Jesevan, 1175

 

Rhythm of War, Part One, Epigraphs

That's kind of long, so I will break it down a bit, and explain.

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The two metals of primary significance are zinc and brass, which allow you to control expression strength. Zinc wires touching the gemstone will cause the spren inside to more strongly manifest, while brass will cause the spren to withdraw and its power to dim.

This is interesting, because in Allomancy, using zinc causes emotions to more strongly manifest, and using brass will cause emotions to withdraw.

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A bronze cage can create a warning fabrial, alerting one to objects or entities nearby.

This is a bit more of a stretch than the last one, but in Allomancy, bronze allows a person to see if someone is using Allomancy nearby. It is similar to a warning fabrial, though the fabrial is more general.

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A pewter cage will cause the spren of your fabrial to express its attribute in force—a flamespren, for example, will create heat. We call these augmenters.

Pewter, in Allomancy, augments the phisical attributes of a person burning it, similar to the fabrial.

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An iron cage will create an attractor—a fabrial that draws specific elements to itself. A properly created smoke fabrial, for example, can gather the smoke of a fire and hold it close.

The iron cage is very similar to what happens when a person burns iron in Allomancy for it can pull on nearby sources of metal.

There are other metal cages mentioned, but they aren't as apparently similar as these five. However, I feel that this is plenty of evidence that duralumin would enhance a fabrial, maybe even not just paired fabrials. Perhaps if it was used on a heat fabrial, for example, it would make the fabrial give of many times more heat than it normaly would. Thoughts?

Thanks! I'd say my favorite Sanderson character is Kaladin, from the Way of Kings, which is my favorite book.

Hi, this is my first, well, anything on the 17th Shard. Hopefully I got it right!