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  1. Stormlight roughly increases strength 1.5-2x. I've actually compiled a list of relevant quotes comparing the two in order to solve this debate once and for all, but I've yet to decide whether to post it here or on Reddit. Anyway a good indication of the radiants strength is that they rarely do anything strength wise that could be considered superhuman.

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    Then you'll fit right in with most military cooks. Come on, let's get you back to the others." Kaladin strained, getting his arms under Hobber, trying to lift him.

    His body would have none of it. He let out an involuntary groan, putting Hobber back down.

    "It's all right, sir," Hobber said.

    "No," Kaladin said, sucking in the Light of one of the spheres in the lamp. "It's not." He heaved again, lifting Hobber, then carried him back toward the others.

    "The drop was a good hundred feet…… He'd dropped half that once before, filled with stormlight and had landed without trouble. "

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    That was all Kaladin heard. His Stormlight-aided leap let him get higher than an ordinary man could probably have managed, but his aim was off. He got hold of the pommel and threw one leg over. But the horse started thrashing.

    So the first quote quite clearly shows it increases strength, the second one shows that although it is not an insignificant strength increase it's not enough for kaladin to definitively say his feat in jumping is greater then an ordinary man could manage. Seeing as the horse appears to be thoroughbred and that are at most 170 cm in height kaladin probably doesn't jump over a metre in height otherwise he wouldn't have had to grab hold of the pommel and throw a leg over. He could have just bent a leg and landed on the saddle sitting. Also jumping over a metre in height is starting to be quite obviously superhuman so there's that too.

    There's other instances of strength increases but i'm not going to list them all.

    now on to pewter 

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    The powerful blow tossed her across the street, and she collided with a shop’s wooden door

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    landed on the cross guard of her sword and leaped off it. The koloss showed that same, characteristic surprise as it saw her leap thirteen feet into the air, leg drawn back, tasseled mistcloak flapping.

    She kicked the koloss directly in the side of the head. The skull cracked. Koloss were inhumanly tough, but her flared pewter was enough.

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    Weapon met weapon in the blazing village, metal ringing like a forge under the hammer, and Elend stood his ground, matching strength with a monster twice his height.

    So given the above quotes and pewters ability to allow people to run as faster or faster then a horse (which is 50km + about 2-3x the average sprint speed of a person) pewter likely increases strength by a factor of 5-10x. It will vary person to person though because in the case of a lerasium mistborn seeing as they are capable of stopping a koloss blow they are likely 15-20x as strong as normal and that's a conservative estimate. The koloss by virtue of being twice as big as normal must be 8x as heavy by virtue of the cubed square law and since they have shown reasonable jumping capabilities and survived falls from reasonable height they are likely at least 2x stronger on top of that. Combine that with the fact koloss will have all there weight behind the swing of a sword at similar speed 15-20x as strong isn't unreasonable.

    Lerasium mistborn aren't more then 2x as strong as they haven't been shown to be able to pierce copper clouds so hence a normal mistborn being half strength. i'm not entirely sure on the strength of plate but this quote gives an idea.

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    Gavilar punched with his off hand slamming his gauntleted fist into Szeth's face........He was on the wooden balcony; the force of the blow had thrown him through the doors.

    So for the punch delivered above, the end result sounds quite similar to the blow the pewter thug delivers to Vin. So given that the thug had the use of two hands and the plate bearer only had one i'm going to say he is half as strong. That would mean a lerasium mistborn and a man in plate are roughly equivalent in strength, with a normal mistborn being being half that strength.

    So lets double check that by comparing jump heights and accounting for the weight of plate. Plate probably weighs 200-300 lbs, enough that your going to find it extremely difficult to move in. So seeing as there's a scene where Dalinar jumps 8 feet which is about equivalent to 6 feet in normal gravity that means if you take away the suit which is at least his weight he would be capable of jumping 12-15 feet. We see Vin jump 10 feet in a leap so it's not unreasonable to suggest a lerasium mistborn could jump 12-15 feet if they wanted. So these results are roughly the same as above and indicate plate and lerasium are on par with normal misting being half as strong (remember vin is stronger then normal hence her jump not being that close to half).

    So in summary plate>/= to pewter which is > stormlight.

    So basically it depends with regards to pewter and plate and stormlight is a distant third.

    So which one is strongest? feruchemy clearly.

    By the way if your discussing Allomancy you might want to state whether spoilers are allowed or move it to a different forum.

  2. Oathbringer spoilers. It only contains some travel destinations, but regardless you've been warned.

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    He flies to thaylen city in a day it appears and Kholinar from urithiru and i'm pretty sure somewhere else in oathbringer he flies dalinar from the oathgate to the warcamps in no time at all, enough there surprised how quickly they arrive.

    So i would he is flying close to the speed of a conventional aeroplane 800-900 km an hour. that's about 4 lashings. It really depends how many lashings they use though, as he was in a hurry but didn't make a sonic boom i'd say it was close to that. i can't recall if he mentions how many he lashes he uses just that he got low

  3. If you want to work out the limitations of each of the powers in order to see how a match up would fair, a good way of doing it is just to see what the characters can do in the books and compare their feats and thoughts. Also looking through the Arcanum might help. I'm planing to do a series of comprehensive posts comparing the various attributes but that's going to take a while to complete. If you aren't looking to be that comprehensive but want to know something specific like if gold can heal a shardblade your best bet is just posting a question on here or reddit, lots of knowledgeable guys their.

    The actual height of the wall isn't ever clearly stated but you can do a rough estimation. The koloss are able to scale it but only after a pile of bodies has accumulated. we know that koloss can reach 12-13 feet in height so adding on wingspan and standing on tippy toes they can probably reach 18-20 feet straight up. They can also jump although how high isn't clear. so maybe add 2-5 feet on. so your looking at a wall 20-25 feet tall at minimum which is  6-8 metres. seeing as their is a pile of bodies id say you'd be looking at 30+ feet (10m) in height. I don't know a lot about historical wall heights but the city of Constantinople had outer walls of 9m in height and inner walls of 12m indicating this wall height is reasonable. 

     

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