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Well the Horneaters and the Herdazians both have singer ancestry so it was pretty heavily foreshadowed, the only surprise for me was that Rlain and Renarin where the first one we saw on screen as it where 

12 hours ago, Treamayne said:

Unlikely, since we see (part of) the Herdazian Greatshells in Oathbringer Interlude 10:

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One man locked Sheler’s chain to a metal loop on the stones. Another approached with a pitcher of oil. They poured it over Sheler’s head; he sputtered as the liquid ran down his face. “What is that stench?”

Above, someone blew a horn.

“I’d say ‘good luck,’ boss,” the Herdazian soldier told Sheler as his companion ran off, “but I’ve got three marks on you not lasting a full minute. Still, who knows. When the general was chained down here, he got out in less.”

The ocean started to churn.

“Of course,” the soldier said, “the general likes this kind of thing. He’s a little weird.”

The soldier dashed back up the bank, leaving Sheler locked in place, doused in pungent oil, and gaping as an enormous claw broke the surface of the ocean.

Perhaps “the hog” was more of a nickname.

The Yu-Nerig Greatshells are Marine Greatshells related-to, but smaller-than a Chasmfiend.

Just relistened to the interlude and I'm certain your wrong 

unless there are some unseen greatshells this has to be the reshi island greatshells 

I figured the Greatshell we see at the end of the minks chapter was one of the Reshi greatshells 

Also im pretty sure the Reshi greatshells would have no problem going on land, the reshi sea is a shallow sea and the greatshells already have like 90% of their bodys out of the water 

my read was that the Reshi greatshells captured Herdaz, it pays of the opening scene from wandersail between The Lopen and the Reshi kings son 

9 hours ago, Nymeros said:

I wonder why that was done.....seems a useless addition to the story.

I see it as the reason odium lost his champion, just before rayse dies he mentions how he "has lost his champion, again" assuming moash was gonna be odiums champion now he's blind odium would need to pick someone else

honestly I don't think brandon has handled dabbid well, although that may be cause the subject is to close to heart for me 

Wit threatened to "slap him around again" thats the hint I noticed 

It is available to purchase on the amazon kindle app now 

Ah apparently when audible says midnight it means midnight PST so 7 and a half hours from now 

It has now been the 17th for 17 minutes, still just a preorder for me on audible 

3 hours ago, TheGirlWhoLookedUp said:

Oh man, I am SO EXCITED! I finished Oathbringer about three days after it was released and have been waiting for Rhythm of War for three years. I can’t believe it’s finally almost here! It’s going to take a lot of effort not to just read it all in one night.

It has not been 3 years since oathbringer has it?

I'm very excited I've basically avoided all info on rhythm of war. Also what's dawnshard? Is it a novella I missed?

12 hours ago, Weltall said:

Miles quite specifically notes that It Doesn't Work That Way. He ages and eventually he'll just keel over (because of his Spiritual age fhough he doesn't use rhat term) even if he's in otherwise excellent health.

All methods of immortality we've seen in the Cosmere involve some sort of cheat that either stops your soul from realizing its age (F-Atium within limits, Fifth Heightening) or floods it with Investiture which is functionally eternal (Elantrians, Cognitive Shadows). Healing magics don't work that way.

Ye I am aware of that , what I'm saying is that it's weird because based on how ageing actually works in real life it should work differently to how we see in the books.

Now that I'm thinking about it gold compounding should completely eliminate old age and the associated death. The reason we age and eventually die is because as our cells replicate over the course of your lifetime they slowly get damaged and lose the ability to self replicate then things start breaking and we die, but if your cells never get permanently damaged they will always be able to replicate.

There are animals that have just this ability, a species of jelly fish can repair it's cells periodically and thus never dies of old age. 

As to the healing from an instantly lethal blow, I'm not sure. Before reading OB I would have said that any radiant could have survived as long as they already had a fair amount of stormlight in them. But in the Renarin scene in OB it's made pretty clear the his healing is way better than other radiants so perhaps only radiants with access to regrowth could heal fast enough. As for gold combounders then I'm pretty sure they can heal through basically anything, the Lord ruler was litteraly beheaded at one point.

5 hours ago, thejopen27 said:

But the enemy is Odium, not the Singers. Using Odious tactics against him is self defeating as he will just use the hate and anger that a scorched earth style war engenders to make himself more powerful, fuel retributions, and bring more people to Odium. 

He the enemy is odium, an entity that is many thousands of years old and wielding a shard of God's power. I really don't think they can afford not to take every advantage they can and scorched earth is a brutally effective means of denying your enemy resources. Even if this just means the singer's have to dedicate more of their man power into farming and manufacturing to keep up with supplys then that's less manpower they can dedicate towards new soldiers.

5 hours ago, Oltux72 said:

Not really to a flying enemy with access to Shadesmar. You can isolate each peak and attack them from two sides and the air. They will fall easily.

 

Not necessarily, the howneaters are aware of the perpendicularity so they could prepare for soldiers to attack from there. As for attacking the peaks unless the fused can capture them all on their own it's gonna be incredibly difficult for regular soldiers to take the peaks. Now seigeing the peaks would by contrast be very easy to surround each one and carefully bring them down isolated and weakened, this would take quite a bit of time so I doubt we'll see the peaks fallen in the 1 year gap. Perhaps one of the events in RoW is the siege and fall of the some/all of the horneater peaks 

A scorched earth tactic could certainly work, it's not just about trying to keep as much resources as you can for yourself it's about denying them to the enemy. Burning crops, destroying shelter, sabotaging any piece of useful equipment. Sure soulcasters mean you'll never be able to starve the enemy army's but Kolinar was a great example that soulcasters cannot feed a nation on their own. 

Given that we have characters like Jasnah and Taravangium not to mention odium himself I think it's only a question when we are going to see strategies like scorched earth start to be put into place.

This is a theory but perhaps this is the reason why the tai-na have developed a symbiotic relationship with people. People get a large fertile home and the tai-na gets protection from hunters.

Their are also some earth animals on roshar, mink coats are mentioned as are sheep. And not to mention the fact that we farm many silk spinning insects here on earth and given how big animals get on roshar they probably have high quantitys of it.

It certainly is interesting to think about. I've come up with several different examples in stormlight (radiants being able to access their powers in times of great stress even before they have sworn any ideals) and warbreaker (the two sisters having their hair colour change to mech their emotions). It certainly seems to be one of the smaller rules of the cosmeres magic systems that they all share. 

2 hours ago, paintweaver said:

In addition to @Elegy I can actually only add this WOB:

So, apparently the measurements are x1.06. Hence, when Kaladin is around 6'8", then Shallan might be 5'9" on earth. Rock - who is described as almost 7 feet tall - is probably as tall as a small Koloss!

Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for.

So here's the exact quote 

Chapter 63

"Be aware that lengths and times used in essays and stories about the world usually use local measurements, a rosharan year is longer than cosmere standard and a rosharan foot is longer than cosmere standard."

It's at the very end of the chapter, I only have the audio book so I dont know the page number 

I will find the exact quote.

It would be very interesting if Kaladin is 6'4" as that's how tall I am. 

Hey so this has been bugging me ever since I read the edgedancer short story in arcanum unbound, in the pre script it is mentions that measurements on roshar are slightly bigger than normal. So what is the exact conversion of say inches on roshar to inches in real life? 

Definitely keep reading, it's not that long and the lore tid bits are great.

39 minutes ago, Karger said:

Some of the atium mistings must have survived and I see no reason they could not breed true...

We know Demoux survived and hell he is even still alive. Oh and the obligator king he survived and had kids. 

Ye so the only way I see seers no longer being a thing is if Sazed intervened. 

9 minutes ago, Halyo_Alex said:

Actually all god metals can be alloyed with all 16 base metals. So you can have 16^2 metals. 256 Allomantically viable metals (x3 for all 3 metallic arts' effects for 768 effects total)

actually you can also alloy god metals together. so that's... ... A lot. Too much. Thousands of metals.

 

Wow

I hope this means we will at least see some examples of god metals/god metal alloys being used in the books.