Cosmernaut

32 minutes ago, BookishOcelot said:

I feel like an opposite Hoid (Dioh, as i’ll now call him) would run around changing things and complementing people.

A polite monster. Like Hannibal Lecter.

44 minutes ago, Dr. Dapper said:

Is that a JoJo refrence?

yare yare daze...

2 minutes ago, Invocation said:

That's probably just Sandman messing with us, like RShara said. "Hmmm, what would happen if I make them think there's a giant conspiracy around something completely fake?" 

Well, it's working.

4 minutes ago, Karger said:

What would an anti-Hoid do?  Hoid is an observer he changes almost exclusively by observing. 

Maybe everything Hoid does, except they're a bigger jerk about it. He probably calls himself Dioh (Brando).

5 minutes ago, RShara said:

I hadn't heard the theory before, myself. But please remember that RAFO can mean anything from "Oh that's a juicy secret" to "I want to see what happens when the fanbase gets ahold of this RAFO."

I'm aware but it sure is working. My mind is sort of racing wondering why he RAFO'd this. If his goal was "I want to see what happens when the fanbase gets ahold of this RAFO", then, at least for me, mission accomplished.

I was reading the more recent wob and someone asked if Hoid had a black haired counterpart. It was RAFO'd which I thought was pretty interesting, and this was something I never really considered. Is Hoid having a counterpart a common fan theory around here? If not, what do you guys think of the idea that there's an anti-Hoid out there?

The other day I was reading through some wob and there was one about immortality which fascinated me. It got me thinking about how a worldhopper might achieve immortality.

For the sake of this exercise, let's pretend for a moment that Realmatic Theory and Cosmere magics and such are real, complete with spirit webs, planets, kandra, and dragons etc. If you could gather whatever you wanted from any planet and person and make any changes to yourself, how would you go about achieving "immortality"? 

For the sake of this question, anything that slows down aging, stops aging, extends lifespan, continuously heals wounds or has you be reborn constantly or anything to that effect can be included under immortality. You can mix magics and get creative as well.

On 5/1/2018 at 6:36 AM, Fatikis said:

It depends on how shades function. They seem to be cognitive shadows that are pushed into the Physical realm. Kelsier is only in the cognitive realm during the events of Secret History. If you brought silver into the cognitive realm you could probably kill him with it.

The properties of silver are Cosmere relevant. The effects are not isolated to Threnody. More than likely silver would harm a cognitive shadow anywhere.

Hoid also carries a silver sword. which is interesting. 

Is Hoid's silver sword still significant? Brandon RAFO'd it at one point but at another point he said it was a symbol of office as the King's Wit. I know he also said it had personal value to Hoid.

Rust and Ruin... Every time I come here, I crave cookies. It doesn't help that I haven't had any in half a year.

Well anyway, welcome to the Shard!

Wow, this is some good stuff. Welcome!

I'm kind of a psychic and right now my visions tell me you like Shallan.

@Sol Invictus Honestly? I can see this too. Brandon's been setting up Autonomy to be a pretty big deal, and he's also fond of Bavadin. I would say that Autonomy is the only other Shard I can think of as having as far a reach as Odium.

The reason why I'm leaning more towards Odium is because Rayse seems more malicious and active in his attacks. I can't help seeing him as Hoid-like where he's had an impact on the larger Cosmere while remaining a minor background element for most of the books. Then he gets a larger role on Roshar while still staying mostly in the background, similar to Hoid on Roshar coming to the forefront as Wit yet staying an ambiguous character, though Rayse of course is more prominent than Hoid here.

16 minutes ago, Grishhammer said:

I would assume that if Odium is defeated on Roshar, he would find some way to retreat until he can try something again. Either going someplace else to wreck havoc there, or laying low until he has another go at Cultivation (if she's still around)

I've thought that Odium would be inclined to try something on Scadrial. Since his goal appears to be becoming the most powerful being the cosmere (without taking up any more shards), he can't be too happy about Sazed holding both Ruin and Preservation.

Yeah. The Sazed thing is another reason why I'm inclined to think of Odium as the big bad. It looks like he and Harmony are heading towards some sort of confrontation, but I don't see Brandon bringing Scadrial into the Stormlight Archive. All in all, it looks to me like Odium will survive SA and head into Mistborn Era 4 since that's the one with the crossover.

Odium seems to play a bigger part in the Cosmere than most of the other Shards. He knows how to kill other Shards, he's directly responsible for how Elantris turned out, he and Hoid (arguably the Cosmere's main character) were friends before something happened that made them enemies, and he wrecked Threnody. There's also some theories that he might be Trell, but take that for what you will. Basically, a lot of importance has been built around him and his actions. It just seems to me that he's being set up as the final Cosmere villain. If he is, what does everyone else think of this idea? Love it? Hate it? And why?

Is there a sci-fi/fantasy convention somewhere that has prominence comparable to something like Comic Con? I know that Comic Con would generally cover that already, but I feel that these days, SDCC is more attuned to people looking for things like movies and tv shows. And NYCC seems to do a better job with catering to comic fans. That's not to say that there's no SFF or comics at SDCC, but it appears to be growing more skewed to films and such. (Note: I'm not saying that this is necessarily a good thing or bad thing, but it's just what it is.) 

So I'm wondering if there's a popular fantasy con out there that's attuned to fans of the genre? I'm looking for an "SDCC" for fantasy.

A haiku because that's the shortest to do.

I walk between worlds

And I've waited for eons.

Where are the noodles?

8 minutes ago, RShara said:

They generally aren't, but when you're trying to ask a question, sometimes you fumble the terminology   I mean, I'm not the questioner, so I could be wrong.  But I think that's what he's referring to.  Whether some imprint or part of Adonalsium is part of Hoid.

No, I think you're right. I thought there was something that I was missing. But referring to it as a cognitive shadow has it make sense.

10 minutes ago, RShara said:

So when someone dies, if they have enough power (investiture) in them, they can become a Cognitive Shadow, which is basically the person's ghost, hanging around in the Cognitive Realm.  For example, SA Spoilers.

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The Stormfather is a Cognitive Shadow of Honor, that has also absorbed a big chunk of Honor's power.

So I think the questioner was wondering if Hoid was carrying around the Cognitive Shadow of Adonalsium, or a piece of it, or some of its memories or something like that.

Ah, I see. Okay. Makes sense. I knew about cognitive shadows but wasn't aware that they were referred to as echoes.

I read a WoB where a question was RAFO'd. It asked about an echo image of Adonalsium being inside Hoid. My head is kind of disorganized with all the Cosmere info so I was wondering if someone here could tell me what this means exactly. What is an echo image? How would it get inside something? How does that usually affect someone?

13 hours ago, Carbonationspren said:

I think that the number eleven in this case is just arbitrary. After the Collapse, when Ruin had more control of the inquisitors, he gave them more spikes. The Lord Ruler didn't give them more spikes to limit their power, not because 11 was special. 11 just gave them what they needed.

Is it? I thought the number was too specific. I’m probably wrong though.

6 hours ago, Yata said:

Yeah there is no correlation between the 11 and Ruin. Ruin is honestly linked to the 16 exactly like preservation is.

The mainly theory (that could be wrong) is about the planets themself to have some weird constants who influence the magic...In this scenario the "magic numbers" are dictate by the planet more than the Shards and still is a loose correlation

Really? That is... slightly disappointing. But only slightly. I thought there was some overarching theme with the Shards. Numbers gave the impression of a ‘pantheon’.

41 minutes ago, King Cole said:

Wait, why is Ruin 11?

Eleven Hemalurgic spikes.

Screencap of the WoB. But apparently, some Shards tend to be followed by certain numbers.

Just as the title says. I read in WoB that each of the Shards coincide with a number. Theories are accepted here so they don’t need to be concrete.

Theories I’ve seen so far:

Endowment: 5

Odium: 9

Honor: 10

Ruin: 11

Preservation: 16

Any other numbers for the other known Shards?

4 hours ago, Sapphire said:

Not falling for it. 

‘Tis the season. For cookies.