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I would also love a "bests" shardcast.

18 hours ago, dantlee said:

2. Vin didn't commit suicide because Elend died. It was more that with Elend's death, she was freed to be able to sacrifice herself to destroy Ruin without any regrets. 

As further evidence, look at what happened in WoA when Elend was dying; she didn't think "oh, the love of my life is gone, what's the point of even trying to save the world" - it was quite the opposite, even if she was misled by Ruin.

3. Even if she wasn't the Hero in the prophecy, let's be real - she was clearly the hero of the original Mistborn trilogy, and even Sazed acknowledged that of all the people to hold Preservation's power, she was by far the most worthy. Brandon constantly subverts expectations, and it would have fallen into extremely overused and boring tropes of prophecy in fantasy stories for her to be the Hero. Finally, everyone on Scadrial in Era 2 acknowledges her as literally one of the greatest, most selfless, and important people to ever live. Does it really matter that she doesn't have the specific title of "Hero of Ages"? 

2. It came across to me that she did not see the value of her own life because Elend was dead. I wish I had the exact quote, but she says Ruin made a mistake by killing Elend. Now she has no reason to live. That is offensive to me.

3. Yes, it matters to me. I think a subversion works best when the new thing is cooler than the expected thing. Sazed is not cooler than Vin. You say overused and boring tropes, but I thought the trilogy was quite different than other fantasy stories. The storytelling was interesting enough that I would not have minded at all if Vin was the Hero of Ages. For one thing it would mean Vin lived. And Vin was a woman. Whenever there is a prophecy in fantasy it is about a man saving the day, including this time. That was disappointing to me.

To some comments above. I love Steris. I loved her from her first introduction. I was disappointed at how small her role was in the first book. She made me think of Monk (Tony Shalhoub). Very OCD and very lovable.

1. I really do not like Spook. He took up a lot of HoA. I was reading for Vin. Spook was always a side character and always uninteresting.

2. Vin committed suicide because Elend was dead. Vin giving her life for a cause I could maybe accept. Vin saying she had nothing to live for I will never believe. Vin was very young. She had a lot to live for. (I also hate Romeo and Juliet. Stupid suicidal young people.)

3. Vin was not the Hero of Ages. I will never get over that. I am a very big Vin fan. Final Empire remains one of my favorite Sanderson books.

This is the first shardcast I have listened to. It was fun. Thanks for sharing.

My beefs: I strongly dislike Spook. I dislike Hero of Ages. It ruined the trilogy for me.

I really don't like that Szeth was accepted so easily by the Kholins. It did not make any sense to me. Jasnah's POV of the prologue showed how scarred she was by Szeth killing her father and yet . . . nothing. No reaction to Szeth being on their side. The way OB wrapped up, I thought no one was going to object to  Szeth's many murders. I have a big problem with that.

The "humor" of the "witty" characters. Not funny to me. I don't want to read any more.

Wayne. I think I dislike him more than any other character.

Dalinar. I wish he had become Odium's champion.