MONARCH

One of Moash's best qualities: He'll die one day.

On 2020/12/2 at 8:08 AM, Dreamwa1ker said:

I didn't know how much I needed this until you said it! Herald-bowl! GET HYPE

The point is, Kaladin was having major difficulties utilizing the surges while trying to save Lirin's sorry ass. Lirin, on the other hand, had little to no contribution in this book. It seemed that his only use was to be saved by a son who he emotionally abused.

Also, Lirin IS A COWARD, for he is not only obsessed with his fragile, unrealistic hope for peace, but that in the entire book, the only one he dared to be harsh to was Kaladin, who, of course would never harm his own father in spite of the latter being a huge jerk. 

If SA is ever to be adapted as a live action or even an animated series, Lirin will sure as hell get more hate than he is currently receiving.

List of people deserve to meet their ends as chasmfiend dump

• Lirin
• Lirin
• Lirin
• Lirin
• Lirin
• Laral
• Nale
• Taravangian
• Moash
• Lirin supporters 

Honorable mentions who cannot receive this fate cause they're dead

• Amaram
• Sadeas
• Pursuer: for being simply boring to read about
• Roshone
• Wax's uncle

Szeth did Roshar a great favor in killing Gavilar.

But a lawyer could also twist the meaning of a law, and yes, I know Nale had done comparable stuff in order to hunt down new radiants, but that's really not the case though...the thing is, if said individual tried to manipulate a certain meaning of the law in order to save who himself and the honorspren deem innocent, would the highspren appear to be strongly oppose to this, to the point where the person would lose his/her rank as a Skybreaker?

Although I'm fully aware that Sanderson had mentioned it's theoretically possible for one to join multiple orders.However, the Skybreakers and Windrunners seemed to have a somewhat toxic relationship due to them following different principles, and that aside, we knew from RoW that Nale was once an enemy of Jezrien's, somehow expanding the opposing status of the orders in a symbolic way. Hence, I wonder if a person could be accepted to both orders...like, is it possible to follow one's gut like Kal YET completely abide by law like Szeth?

A handicapped.

Lirin hater +1.

Hope this emotional abusive coward end up as a chasmfiend's dump.

Evil or good? Nah, he's just plain pathetic.

I hope he eventually recovers and decides to teach Nale a lesson. A brutal lesson involving honorblades, that is.

No, just no.

Never as indulged in Kaladin's so called "character charisma" as some might be, however, even I found that Sanderson acted as if he was deriving pleasure from torturing the character with multiple issues "Well, you've somehow come around with the flaws of the social structure? Guess what? Now you'll have major mental issues to cope with! And adding to that is your father continuously trying to force you into a confinement suitable for his unrealistic morality!"

Perhaps Laral's attitude in Oathbringer is understandable (though from a reader's standpoint, I honestly consider it almost unbearable), but seriously...it's just the fourth book, and although the first arc of SA is about to complete, I just do not see the point in having Kaladin going back to Laral, with potentially other choices around. A large chunk of my guts wish she'd just die of old age and sickness while eventually becoming irrelevant to Kaladin, or she could just be swallowed by a chasmfiend.

A more savage and whiny version:

Considering how Nale easily defeated Szeth, I wonder how would 4th oath Kaladin fare against the Herald?

Other than that, I now wonder if Nale is in fact the most dangerous surgebinder on Roshar atm? By dangerous I'm not regarding to the raw power as a whole, but instead only restricted in the field of melee combat or straight up fight. 

I don't know if the question was answered or not,but I'm really curious that whether a surgebinder can abosorb the Mist if he/she somehow worldhops to Scadrial ...

Sanderson said that the investitures are basically the same,and that one can ''hack'' in different Cosmere magic systems.So given that the Mist is somehow produced like Stormlight ,I wonder can a surgebinder just takes a deep breath,abosrobs some Mist and stars using his/her abilities ?

I just simply don't consider Szeth as his best when fighting Kal in the sky (WOR),I mean he talked,and talked,and taked A LOT. Also he seemed to be more interested in killing Dalinar at first rather than fighting Kaladin.And after all,Szeth is superior to Kal in terms of experience/h2h combat/tactical fighting .

Just now, Julio said:

Those don't exist naturally. They can't be "born." But besides that... I still have to go with the Radiant, because Sprenblade and Shardplate. As much as I love Feruchemy, and as powerful as compounding Gold is, it's not really a match for the Godlike powers a super-radiant would have. Though Feruchemical Steel would be dangerous, it can't get past shardplate. 

I know,Rashek got the powers from the Shard,and Fullborn is what we called people with TLR's abilities on this site IIRC.

Just now, Julio said:

Firstly, I believe you mean Mistborn. IIRC, Fullborn refers to Feruchemists that have all the metals. 

 

We know very little about most of the surges, and a good bit about all the metals, so we can't really say how it would go. HOWEVER, the massive healing power granted to a surgebinder is amazingly powerful. Also, assuming this is a radiant(the only surgebinders we know anything of, without using honorblades), they will also have Shards, which will make them basically unstoppable. Which they are anyway, with unlimited healing. 

No,I actually mean Fullborn...AKA someone like Lord Ruler

By metals I mean this fullborn dude has all 16 types of feruchemic objects

Fullborn

• With all 16 metals (steel,pewter,duralumin,nicrosil,iron,tin,aluminum,chromium,zinc,copper,gold,cadmium,brass,bronze,electrum,bendalloy)
• Unlimited metals (NO major weaknesses could be seen)
• Blood lusted
• Moras off
• Win by killing or KO

Composite Surgebinder

• With all the 10 surges (adhesion,gravitation,division,abrasion,progression,illumination,transformation,transportation,cohesion,tension)
• Unlimited stormlight
• Blood lusted
• Morals off
• Win by killing or KO

Fullborn stomps,mismatch.

Like,does she ? I mean Szeth killed her father,and in her POV chapter I don't recall her hatred toward him ....

Adolin for sure.

1. TLR by speculations
2. Odium feels like the right choice
3. Vin,Lift hardly has any impressive feat yet 

On 2017/7/8 at 3:07 AM, Calderis said:

TFE era there were only 14 known metals including atium and malatium. Does she have those? Or does she have the full 16 of the AoL era which excludes atium and its alloys?

It's an important question, because in a bloodlusted, non-stealth fight, I don't see her beating Kal without atium. 

She has 5 min atium,and 30 minutes of metal in round 1-7.

1. Shallan Davar
2. Torol Sadeas 
3. Eshonai
4. Adolin Kholin
5. Dalinar Kholin
6. Kaladin Stormblessed
7. Szeth-son-son-Vallano
8. The Lord Ruler

Conditions 

• Vin has all 16 metals and is armed with 5 glass daggers and a bunch of coins, she is allowed to use mist in round 8
• Shallan is equipped with her shardblade,Pattern【with 30 minutes stormlight】
• Sadeas is equipped with his shardplate and a hammer
• Eshonai is equipped with her shardplate and shardblade
• Adolin is equipped with his shardplate and shardblade
• Dalinar is equipped with his shardplate and Oathbringer
• Kaladin is equipped with his shardblade (Syl),and has 3 oaths 【with 30 minutes stormlight】
• Szeth has Nightblood and Jezrien's honorblade【with 30 minutes stormlight】
• The Lord Ruler has all the metals (of course)
• Everyone is blood lusted and wants to kill right away